Re: [DNG] Firefox does analytics in browser

2018-05-05 Thread chillfan
I think another issue is that pointing the finger at facebook is a good cover 
for implementing features users would otherwise object to and strongly.
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Re: [DNG] Firefox does analytics in browser

2018-05-05 Thread Dave Turner

On 04/05/18 22:55, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

On Fri, 4 May 2018 17:50:50 +0200, Dr. wrote in message
<201805041750.50383.dr.kl...@gmx.at>:


Am Freitag, 4. Mai 2018 schrieb Adam Borowski:

Although it's interesting how they can have the gall to label
something that siphons all of your browsing data as
"privacy-oriented search experience".

LOL ... newspeak everywhere you look: When it's called "expert", you
know it does not know what it's talking about. When it's labeled
"professional", you know all professionals will stay away from it ...


..a proper "professional" "expert" reponse could be run all browsers
exactly once, from throw-away virtual machines, so all web browsers
etc look brand new to trackers, because they always _are_ brand new.

..on killing them, we _may_ (and _not_) wanna haul out the history
and bookmarks into some sort of (local) history log server and
(local) bookmarks (web) server, that e.g. launches new throw-aways
anytime an url is hit.

Happily TinyCore linux exists. It can be run as a clean install every 
time you run it.


DaveT

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Re: [DNG] Firefox does analytics in browser

2018-05-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 4 May 2018 17:50:50 +0200, Dr. wrote in message 
<201805041750.50383.dr.kl...@gmx.at>:

> Am Freitag, 4. Mai 2018 schrieb Adam Borowski:
> > Although it's interesting how they can have the gall to label
> > something that siphons all of your browsing data as
> > "privacy-oriented search experience".  
> 
> LOL ... newspeak everywhere you look: When it's called "expert", you
> know it does not know what it's talking about. When it's labeled
> "professional", you know all professionals will stay away from it ...


..a proper "professional" "expert" reponse could be run all browsers
exactly once, from throw-away virtual machines, so all web browsers 
etc look brand new to trackers, because they always _are_ brand new.  

..on killing them, we _may_ (and _not_) wanna haul out the history 
and bookmarks into some sort of (local) history log server and 
(local) bookmarks (web) server, that e.g. launches new throw-aways
anytime an url is hit.

-- 
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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
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Re: [DNG] Firefox does analytics in browser

2018-05-04 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Freitag, 4. Mai 2018 schrieb Adam Borowski:
> Although it's interesting how they can have the gall to label something that
> siphons all of your browsing data as "privacy-oriented search experience".

LOL ... newspeak everywhere you look: When it's called "expert", you know it 
does not know what it's talking about. When it's labeled "professional", you 
know all professionals will stay away from it ...

Nik

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Re: [DNG] Firefox does analytics in browser

2018-05-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 05:37:29PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> At least in Germany, official builds of Firefox bundle Cliqz malware;
> according to an announcement they start with a small portion of users and
> want to ramp up to all of them in the future.  No idea if non-mozilla.org
> (such as those from Debian sources) builds are affected.
> 
> Likewise, Cliqz provides "recommendations" based on your complete browsing
> history.

Update: apparently:
# Support for Cliqz integrated functions in Firefox is ending.  If you would
# like to continue using Cliqz, please install the free Cliqz add-on.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/cliqz-recommendations-firefox

Although it's interesting how they can have the gall to label something that
siphons all of your browsing data as "privacy-oriented search experience".


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Re: [DNG] Firefox does analytics in browser

2018-05-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 11:04:19AM -0400, chill...@protonmail.com wrote:
> I noticed this hasn't come up yet. 
> 
> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/01/sponsored_links_come_to_firefox/
> 
> So, it would look like people have only until ESR changes then they'll be
> stuck with that problem, at least for the US builds unless they can do it
> for everyone.

At least in Germany, official builds of Firefox bundle Cliqz malware;
according to an announcement they start with a small portion of users and
want to ramp up to all of them in the future.  No idea if non-mozilla.org
(such as those from Debian sources) builds are affected.

Likewise, Cliqz provides "recommendations" based on your complete browsing
history.


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[DNG] Firefox does analytics in browser

2018-05-04 Thread chillfan
I noticed this hasn't come up yet. 

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/01/sponsored_links_come_to_firefox/

So, it would look like people have only until ESR changes then they'll be stuck 
with that problem, at least for the US builds unless they can do it for 
everyone.

​Cheers,

chillfan
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