Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
Thank you all for your positive response! It's heart-warming. == hk ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 06:07:45PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 19:46:26 + > hellekin wrote: > > > This thread contains a lot of praise for Devuan. I want to ask you > > whether it's fine to use it on devuan.org for promotion. You're > > welcome to reply here. I'll contact everyone individually to ask > > anyway. > > > > Cheers > > > > == > > hk > > > > I'd be pleased as punch if you did, and you hereby have my permission > to use anything I wrote in the thread for any kind of Devuan promotion > you want. And permission to use anything *I* write in thie mailing list for the same purpose. As long as you keep it in context. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
Le 21/04/2016 00:07, Steve Litt a écrit : On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 19:46:26 + hellekin wrote: >This thread contains a lot of praise for Devuan. I want to ask you >whether it's fine to use it on devuan.org for promotion. You're >welcome to reply here. I'll contact everyone individually to ask >anyway. > >Cheers > >== >hk > I'd be pleased as punch if you did, and you hereby have my permission to use anything I wrote in the thread for any kind of Devuan promotion you want. SteveT +1 Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
On Thu, 21 Apr 2016, メット wrote: > On 2016年4月21日 7:07:45 JST, Steve Litt wrote: > >On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 19:46:26 + > >hellekin wrote: > > > >> This thread contains a lot of praise for Devuan. I want to ask you > >> whether it's fine to use it on devuan.org for promotion. You're > >> welcome to reply here. I'll contact everyone individually to ask > >> anyway. > > >I'd be pleased as punch if you did, and you hereby have my permission > >to use anything I wrote in the thread for any kind of Devuan promotion > >you want. thanks Steve. this mailinglist is public already of course, yet Hellekin is right in asking. always better to exceed in netiquette rathern than lack. such good feelings. each independent review posted here resonates and motivates us and will be speaking to the newcomers we really want, much better than a thousand words and a full-on marketing campaign. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016年4月21日 7:07:45 JST, Steve Litt wrote: >On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 19:46:26 + >hellekin wrote: > >> This thread contains a lot of praise for Devuan. I want to ask you >> whether it's fine to use it on devuan.org for promotion. You're >> welcome to reply here. I'll contact everyone individually to ask >> anyway. >> >> Cheers >> >> == >> hk >> > >I'd be pleased as punch if you did, and you hereby have my permission >to use anything I wrote in the thread for any kind of Devuan promotion >you want. > >SteveT Same here -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: APG v1.1.1 iQE9BAEBCgAnBQJXGARfIBxNZXR0IEhlbF9LZWl0YWkgPG1ldHRAcG1hcnMuanA+ AAoJEPao4OPC92NkI+oH/iZGUX7PW0e8FYPwFnfDWCKAeQ8+cvL+J4q95uIfJcwZ PsbbJAkHjRRnaRCuJw1f4heXYu9xVrWFaesiiAxeDrmcMR4Vw0/lu6Fo5NFmXMYN azNNvfzbMQT3z/+uzG1s/opPaTqjDiZqrnH04yqCLs8SFRxkENmjf+L0C8X1ErDb /9kq+qi6+s4LhgxGHLfcQSPUyS+GvHQX6vNvtn54A/OB2Eljn0vx+MZpdUNX7sbo fKW375+zOZBGfKAbH1NKXY+QWC55zDpGwqQdQINbpQnifV1yIqvcPxqU3ZCfd5/L 8tv5d+rZBwjjdKjK9/MTNBht/ukfRUODTVXk7kqYSdI= =Nb/I -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 19:46:26 + hellekin wrote: > This thread contains a lot of praise for Devuan. I want to ask you > whether it's fine to use it on devuan.org for promotion. You're > welcome to reply here. I'll contact everyone individually to ask > anyway. > > Cheers > > == > hk > I'd be pleased as punch if you did, and you hereby have my permission to use anything I wrote in the thread for any kind of Devuan promotion you want. SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
This thread contains a lot of praise for Devuan. I want to ask you whether it's fine to use it on devuan.org for promotion. You're welcome to reply here. I'll contact everyone individually to ask anyway. Cheers == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
A no-brainer for my use case, couple of laptops and a desktop. All working as I'd expect debian jessie to work if it didn't have systemd. Cheers, chillfan On Sunday, April 17, 2016 2:00 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I know many of you are using Devuan in production and as your Daily > Driver. Patrick from debian-user expressed some trepidation about > moving to Devuan in his impending escape from a systemd-encumbered > Debian, and I figure maybe if he heard a few of your use cases, he > might feel more confident about his future in Linux. Please copy > Patrick in your replies. > > SteveT > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700 > From: Patrick Bartek > To: debian-u...@lists.debian.org > Subject: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] > > > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April > 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced > > [snipped by Steve Litt] > > Well, at least I have time to look for an alternative. Maybe, Devuan > will be viable by then, but I doubt it. Or Debian will offer a choice > of inits as a standard option during installs on future releases, but I > very much doubt it. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Take back your privacy. Switch to www.StartMail.com ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
Steve Litt escribió: Hi all, I know many of you are using Devuan in production and as your Daily Driver. Patrick from debian-user expressed some trepidation about moving to Devuan in his impending escape from a systemd-encumbered Debian, and I figure maybe if he heard a few of your use cases, he might feel more confident about his future in Linux. Please copy Patrick in your replies. I have Devuan Jessie on my main computer, which is both server and desktop. I have some inconsistencies due to how I made the migration and where I was before it (I like to play with sid and experimental), but I found no major issues. I use virtual machines inside that box to bring my DNS, Apache, SMTP, POP3+IMAP, web mailserver... most of them with Devuan Jessie as well (some with older Debian distros... I do not update those machines as I should). Regards Noel er Envite binEi1_0qfqDk.bin Description: Clave PGP pública pgpb5TtZpfFdS.pgp Description: Firma digital PGP ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
Do you know that debian-u...@lists.debian.org allows non-registered users to post to their lists? I've been checking that list for followups to this post. Was hoping to see some of your responses there but it seems I'm the only one who sent to there. Perhaps some late responders will consider copying to -user also. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
Hi, I'm using Devuan both personally for devuan development and on some production systems. Sadly there is nothing particularly notable about running it on production systems. It just works. I'm currently completing the deployment of a server running kvm with libvirt and managing it via virt manager - it works well enough for small setups like this. On this server I'm running 3 Devuan guests and a Windows 7 desktop. The linux guests are for: Firewall, Samba Active Directory Domain controller, and Samba Domain Member File Server. Setting these up in Devuan was pretty trivial - again nothing notable compared to Debian Wheezy - except newer versions of the software. It just works as expected - and no sign of systemd or libsystemd packages installed on any of those servers. With regards to the Devuan development side of things I have been very heavily involved in it and have done a sizeable amount of the repackaging as well as working closely with others on the devuans package build infrastructure and deployment side of things. Devuan is not all there for the Desktop yet - but it's good enough for daily use with XFCE. I'm biased of course because I have invested a huge amount of my time in the last year or so in working on Devuan, and when I come across issues or packages depending on systemd I have the knowledge to be able to fix them for the benefit for all. Devuan is in my opinion a trustworthy upgrade, and if you need a package repackaged for devuan without systemd, then I'm happy to help. If you need it urgently then I can be contracted to do that for you. Personally I'd rather use Devuan then Debian for Jessie in both production server setups as well as desktop usage. regards, Daniel. On 17/04/16 13:00, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I know many of you are using Devuan in production and as your Daily > Driver. Patrick from debian-user expressed some trepidation about > moving to Devuan in his impending escape from a systemd-encumbered > Debian, and I figure maybe if he heard a few of your use cases, he > might feel more confident about his future in Linux. Please copy > Patrick in your replies. > > SteveT > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700 > From: Patrick Bartek > To: debian-u...@lists.debian.org > Subject: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] > > > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April > 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced > > [snipped by Steve Litt] > > Well, at least I have time to look for an alternative. Maybe, Devuan > will be viable by then, but I doubt it. Or Debian will offer a choice > of inits as a standard option during installs on future releases, but I > very much doubt it. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > -- Daniel Reurich Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd. 021 797 722 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
I've dist-upgraded my laptop from debian wheezy to devuan jessie without any problem. I use lightdm and awesome WM. Have some devuan VMs for months, no problems there neither. I'm planning on deploy a production devuan server over the next weeks or so. I'll let you all know of anything worth discussing. Good job. Regards, -- Fernando M. Maresca ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
Dear All, I have been using Devuan (upgraded from wheezy) for several months on my desktop PC: I am using XFCE as Desktop environment. I use Gimp and imageJ for the occasional image manipulation work. Keeping chrome open with dozens of tabs, toying with HTML and Javascript (debugging). I use an USB audio device (with pulseaudio from angband[?]). LVM on a fast SSD and software RAID on big spinning disks for archives (photos,music,movies, etc.). I have never had any problem (except just after the upgrade due to removal of Gnome, easily solved). I have a small Home server also running since shortly after my PC upgrade: NFS sharing, Minecraft server for me and few friends, a virtualbox virtual machine (I know, I am lazy) running a webserver also on Devuan. Sometimes I start an X server with i3 WM. Software raid Also never had any problem! Uptime of months! (very low load though). All of the above obviously SystemD free: Devuan is fantastic! I hope my showcase of uses helps people to abandon the dark side! Antonio On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 4:15 PM, メット wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On 2016年4月17日 10:00:44 JST, Steve Litt wrote: > >Hi all, > ［snipped］ > I figure maybe if he heard a few of your use cases, he > >might feel more confident about his future in Linux. Please copy > >Patrick in your replies. > > > >SteveT > > > > > >Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April > >2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced > > > >[snipped by Steve Litt] > > > >Well, at least I have time to look for an alternative. Maybe, Devuan > >will be viable by then, but I doubt it. Or Debian will offer a choice > >of inits as a standard option during installs on future releases, but I > >very much doubt it. > >_ > Hi, > Using devuan on prod server here as well > （proliant xeon, apache 2.4, mariadb, postfix dovecot, gdns, fail2ban, > vsftpd, asterisk) > I event went hc and tried the non-dbus stuff on laptop > Working as a charm and im not a programmer... > Just had to change from ibus-anthy to emacs for japanese ime（laptop）. > Dev1 saved my freedom, i hope i can contribute one day. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: APG v1.1.1 > > iQE9BAEBCgAnBQJXE6iUIBxNZXR0IEhlbF9LZWl0YWkgPG1ldHRAcG1hcnMuanA+ > AAoJEPao4OPC92NkrTkH/iE3llz6BvfETzl7MLSbGCd2zc8vnDoizD0LGRcoieEc > QEpDE3sWrZU3h50ek8ytw8vmclW4mC3WSAHlqKg9rRFBkRsUKD5hmRTR9bmcaSnA > /tCNdZcYDVF/Ia/a3QI00oTIg1j2XR4Pot2JwVNdCFKXyBRI6SR9S7jro8uCAV4X > RcwFhwgkqKOzc3wI4wS8f7Ke/lf78B/j56wO5D0ZgsUPmzqCgcnTsYvxBvOMSMq/ > irWUZ37LraX69ruyIkoRro454M7igOQEcuOAu1rYRChDmE3sy1W/Z5tZihWfiA0u > 3CESAnrQRReT1Y+WuXLVZ2NYODihTLiJDnYRwioBIU4= > =qyIb > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016年4月17日 10:00:44 JST, Steve Litt wrote: >Hi all, ［snipped］ I figure maybe if he heard a few of your use cases, he >might feel more confident about his future in Linux. Please copy >Patrick in your replies. > >SteveT > > >Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April >2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced > >[snipped by Steve Litt] > >Well, at least I have time to look for an alternative. Maybe, Devuan >will be viable by then, but I doubt it. Or Debian will offer a choice >of inits as a standard option during installs on future releases, but I >very much doubt it. >_ Hi, Using devuan on prod server here as well （proliant xeon, apache 2.4, mariadb, postfix dovecot, gdns, fail2ban, vsftpd, asterisk) I event went hc and tried the non-dbus stuff on laptop Working as a charm and im not a programmer... Just had to change from ibus-anthy to emacs for japanese ime（laptop）. Dev1 saved my freedom, i hope i can contribute one day. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: APG v1.1.1 iQE9BAEBCgAnBQJXE6iUIBxNZXR0IEhlbF9LZWl0YWkgPG1ldHRAcG1hcnMuanA+ AAoJEPao4OPC92NkrTkH/iE3llz6BvfETzl7MLSbGCd2zc8vnDoizD0LGRcoieEc QEpDE3sWrZU3h50ek8ytw8vmclW4mC3WSAHlqKg9rRFBkRsUKD5hmRTR9bmcaSnA /tCNdZcYDVF/Ia/a3QI00oTIg1j2XR4Pot2JwVNdCFKXyBRI6SR9S7jro8uCAV4X RcwFhwgkqKOzc3wI4wS8f7Ke/lf78B/j56wO5D0ZgsUPmzqCgcnTsYvxBvOMSMq/ irWUZ37LraX69ruyIkoRro454M7igOQEcuOAu1rYRChDmE3sy1W/Z5tZihWfiA0u 3CESAnrQRReT1Y+WuXLVZ2NYODihTLiJDnYRwioBIU4= =qyIb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:00:44PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I know many of you are using Devuan in production and as your Daily > Driver. Patrick from debian-user expressed some trepidation about > moving to Devuan in his impending escape from a systemd-encumbered > Debian, and I figure maybe if he heard a few of your use cases, he > might feel more confident about his future in Linux. Please copy > Patrick in your replies. > > SteveT I've been using devuan jessie exclusively on my laptop since the days of the alpha-2 release, ith xcfe as weino manager. I haven't missed a thing from Debian. I noticed a remarkable speed improvement when I started using devuan, but I suspect that was because I installed a new hard drive with an SSD cache at the same time. I might have missed gnome, but I had stopped using it long ago on Debian when their upgrade made it unusable. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
Steve Litt wrote on 04/16/2016 08:00 PM: > Hi all, > > I know many of you are using Devuan in production and as your Daily > Driver. Patrick from debian-user expressed some trepidation about > moving to Devuan in his impending escape from a systemd-encumbered > Debian, and I figure maybe if he heard a few of your use cases, he > might feel more confident about his future in Linux. Please copy > Patrick in your replies. I have been running Devuan jessie on my desktop since the first Alpha was available. I also run it as my production desktop at my workplace where I manage Linux servers and write software. This means I have a wide variety of software installed on my desktop to do everything from filling out "TPS reports" (LibreOffice), to Email/Web/Caldav (Firefox, Thunderbird, Lightning), to various IDE environments (Android Studio, Eclipse) Devuan works, and works surprisingly well. I've had more downtime on the Ubuntu 14.04 servers running simple LAMP stacks in the last year than I've had on my Devuan desktop loaded with all the heavy application software. Another good reason to give it a try is the community around this mailing list. It's one of the best behaved I've ever seen and seems to consist of a wide collective of experience. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
Hi, I also use Devuan without issues. My open source projects were all written, compiled and tested on Devuan. Edward On 17/04/2016, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:00:44PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I know many of you are using Devuan in production and as your Daily >> Driver. Patrick from debian-user expressed some trepidation about >> moving to Devuan in his impending escape from a systemd-encumbered >> Debian, and I figure maybe if he heard a few of your use cases, he >> might feel more confident about his future in Linux. Please copy >> Patrick in your replies. >> > > I have been using Devuan Jessie (upgraded from Debian Jessie) on my > laptop (WMaker + mutt + shell + dev tools + firefox) for several > months now, maybe close to one year. Not a single problem. I am also > using it on a Raspberry pi2 and on a Raspberry pi3, both upgraded from > Raspbian and used as media centers. Not a single issue. > > I am now in the process of upgrading to Devuan from Wheezy on a small > (virtual) server, and I am sure everything will be fine. > > Nobody should be afraid of jumping to Devuan. It's just like an old, > reliable, rock-solid Debian without the messing up due to a blind, > deaf, stubborn leadership. And without systemd, of course (but, for > the records, some statistically significant positive correlations > between the two facts has been observed, indeed...) > > HND > > KatolaZ > > -- > [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] > [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] > [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] > [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:00:44PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I know many of you are using Devuan in production and as your Daily > Driver. Patrick from debian-user expressed some trepidation about > moving to Devuan in his impending escape from a systemd-encumbered > Debian, and I figure maybe if he heard a few of your use cases, he > might feel more confident about his future in Linux. Please copy > Patrick in your replies. > I have been using Devuan Jessie (upgraded from Debian Jessie) on my laptop (WMaker + mutt + shell + dev tools + firefox) for several months now, maybe close to one year. Not a single problem. I am also using it on a Raspberry pi2 and on a Raspberry pi3, both upgraded from Raspbian and used as media centers. Not a single issue. I am now in the process of upgrading to Devuan from Wheezy on a small (virtual) server, and I am sure everything will be fine. Nobody should be afraid of jumping to Devuan. It's just like an old, reliable, rock-solid Debian without the messing up due to a blind, deaf, stubborn leadership. And without systemd, of course (but, for the records, some statistically significant positive correlations between the two facts has been observed, indeed...) HND KatolaZ -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
Le 17/04/2016 05:44, Gregory Nowak a écrit : On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:00:44PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >I know many of you are using Devuan in production and as your Daily >Driver. Patrick from debian-user expressed some trepidation about >moving to Devuan in his impending escape from a systemd-encumbered >Debian, and I figure maybe if he heard a few of your use cases, he >might feel more confident about his future in Linux. Please copy >Patrick in your replies. > >SteveT The gloomy subject isn't quite correct, since wheezy will be moving into a LTS release. I intend to run it that way for a while longer on at least one machine. As for devuan, it is still a bit rough around the edges judging by recent discussion on this list, though it is more useable than not. I am running devuan pre-beta jessie on a raspberry pi 2, and on a older 32-bit machine with no issues. Both of those are text console installs with no desktop for now at least. Greg For me, the only missing thing in Devuan is apt-file. I think it is the main reason why I still have Wheezy on a laptop. The second is I would like to try a full install of Devuan Beta when it is ready. I have Devuan Jessie on another laptop and it is working better. And Devuan Jessie also on a Raspberry-Pi-2. Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:00:44PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > I know many of you are using Devuan in production and as your Daily > Driver. Patrick from debian-user expressed some trepidation about > moving to Devuan in his impending escape from a systemd-encumbered > Debian, and I figure maybe if he heard a few of your use cases, he > might feel more confident about his future in Linux. Please copy > Patrick in your replies. > > SteveT The gloomy subject isn't quite correct, since wheezy will be moving into a LTS release. I intend to run it that way for a while longer on at least one machine. As for devuan, it is still a bit rough around the edges judging by recent discussion on this list, though it is more useable than not. I am running devuan pre-beta jessie on a raspberry pi 2, and on a older 32-bit machine with no issues. Both of those are text console installs with no desktop for now at least. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Fw: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!]
Hi all, I know many of you are using Devuan in production and as your Daily Driver. Patrick from debian-user expressed some trepidation about moving to Devuan in his impending escape from a systemd-encumbered Debian, and I figure maybe if he heard a few of your use cases, he might feel more confident about his future in Linux. Please copy Patrick in your replies. SteveT Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700 From: Patrick Bartek To: debian-u...@lists.debian.org Subject: Beginning of the End for Wheezy [sigh!] Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 April 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as announced [snipped by Steve Litt] Well, at least I have time to look for an alternative. Maybe, Devuan will be viable by then, but I doubt it. Or Debian will offer a choice of inits as a standard option during installs on future releases, but I very much doubt it. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
