Re: [DNG] Fw: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso

[Simon Walter]

On 2021-10-12 21:13, Simon Walter wrote:
> On 2021-10-12 21:04, Simon Walter wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2021-10-12 20:58, Simon Walter wrote:
>>> On 2021-10-12 19:19, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
 Which ISO does this concern? Does it happen with the latest?
>>>
>>> devuan_chimaera_4.0.RC-20211011_amd64_netinstall.iso
>>>
 Which hands-on is involved?
 Bugs would still be reported as per the original instruction.
>>>
>>> I will check for the existence of the file that aitor mentioned
>>> (.disk/info).
>>>
>>
>> It turns out that something went wrong with the the USB device (iso) or
>> the mounting of it. Because at first, there were no files in /cdrom.
>> Then when I remounted the USB device at /cdrom, I could see the
>> /.disk/info file. I will start from the top and see if it occurs again.
>>
> 
> It was shitty HW. I'm sorry for the noise.

So it turns out this may be a problem with a chipset or some HW other
than the USB storage device. The USB storage device will, at various
stages in the installation, "disappear" (there is no more /dev/sda*) and
then "reappear" (there is now /dev/sdb*). Mounting it again at /cdrom
and /target/media/cdrom allows me to carry on the installation.

If you have a 11th gen Intel machine that could be an issue. Devuan 3
installer didn't find the NIC. So I opted to try 4.
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Re: [DNG] Fw: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso

[Simon Walter]

On 2021-10-12 21:04, Simon Walter wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2021-10-12 20:58, Simon Walter wrote:
>> On 2021-10-12 19:19, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>>> Which ISO does this concern? Does it happen with the latest?
>>
>> devuan_chimaera_4.0.RC-20211011_amd64_netinstall.iso
>>
>>> Which hands-on is involved?
>>> Bugs would still be reported as per the original instruction.
>>
>> I will check for the existence of the file that aitor mentioned
>> (.disk/info).
>>
> 
> It turns out that something went wrong with the the USB device (iso) or
> the mounting of it. Because at first, there were no files in /cdrom.
> Then when I remounted the USB device at /cdrom, I could see the
> /.disk/info file. I will start from the top and see if it occurs again.
> 

It was shitty HW. I'm sorry for the noise.
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Re: [DNG] Fw: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso

[Simon Walter]

On 2021-10-12 20:58, Simon Walter wrote:
> On 2021-10-12 19:19, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>> Which ISO does this concern? Does it happen with the latest?
> 
> devuan_chimaera_4.0.RC-20211011_amd64_netinstall.iso
> 
>> Which hands-on is involved?
>> Bugs would still be reported as per the original instruction.
> 
> I will check for the existence of the file that aitor mentioned
> (.disk/info).
> 

It turns out that something went wrong with the the USB device (iso) or
the mounting of it. Because at first, there were no files in /cdrom.
Then when I remounted the USB device at /cdrom, I could see the
/.disk/info file. I will start from the top and see if it occurs again.

One more detail is that I am installing to an encrypted LVM (via the
curses UI - guided partitioning - all files in one partition).

Best regards,

Simon
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Re: [DNG] Fw: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso

[Simon Walter]

On 2021-10-12 19:19, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> Which ISO does this concern? Does it happen with the latest?

devuan_chimaera_4.0.RC-20211011_amd64_netinstall.iso

> Which hands-on is involved?
> Bugs would still be reported as per the original instruction.

I will check for the existence of the file that aitor mentioned
(.disk/info).

Thanks,

Simon

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Re: [DNG] Fw: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso

[Ralph Ronnquist via Dng]

Which ISO does this concern? Does it happen with the latest?
Which hands-on is involved?
Bugs would still be reported as per the original instruction.

regards,

Ralph.

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 18:29:43 +0900
Simon Walter  wrote:

> I'm trying to install Chimaera from the netinstall, and I get the
> debootstrap error:
> "Failed to determine the codename for the release"
> 
> Is this known? Where should I report problems with the installer?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Simon
> 
> On 2021-06-18 07:24, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > 
> > Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 08:22:06 +1000
> > From: Ralph Ronnquist 
> > To: Devuan Maintainers 
> > Subject: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso
> > 
> > 
> > The Chimaera alpha netinstall ISOs version dated 14-Jun-2021 or
> > later now include "the final" versions of the forked udebs, and
> > they need testing to confirm that it is ready for RC1 in the coming
> > month.
> > 
> > The URL path at files.devuan.org is devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/
> > but that's rather slow to download from, and you're better off using
> > some of mirrors listed at https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan
> > 
> > E.g
> > https://sledjhamr.org/devuan-cd/devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/devuan_chimaera_4.0.alpha-20210614_amd64_netinstall.iso
> > 
> > Please report bugs via email sent to "submit" at bugs.devuan.org
> > with the first 2 lines being the following:
> > Package: devuan-installer
> > Version: 4.0
> > 
> > But, please report against the source package concerned where you
> > can isolate that. And, note that most packages come directly from
> > Debian without forking, and that upstreamed reporting directly to
> > Debian's bug tracking is then best
> > (https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting).
> > 
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> > Ralph.
> > 
> > 
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Re: [DNG] Fw: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso

[aitor]

Hi,

On 12/10/21 11:29, Simon Walter wrote:

I'm trying to install Chimaera from the netinstall, and I get the
debootstrap error:
"Failed to determine the codename for the release"


The missing codename should be specified in a hidden folder. Something like 
this:

echo "Devuan 4 "chimaera" - Build amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 'timestamp'" > 
.disk/info



Is this known? Where should I report problems with the installer?


I think this is a good place to report problems with the installer. As far as I 
know,
Ralph is one of the maintainers and he announced here in the mailing list the 
incoming
release of chimaera.

Aitor.




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Re: [DNG] Fw: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso

[Simon Walter]

I'm trying to install Chimaera from the netinstall, and I get the
debootstrap error:
"Failed to determine the codename for the release"

Is this known? Where should I report problems with the installer?

Thanks,

Simon

On 2021-06-18 07:24, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 08:22:06 +1000
> From: Ralph Ronnquist 
> To: Devuan Maintainers 
> Subject: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso
> 
> 
> The Chimaera alpha netinstall ISOs version dated 14-Jun-2021 or later
> now include "the final" versions of the forked udebs, and they need
> testing to confirm that it is ready for RC1 in the coming month.
> 
> The URL path at files.devuan.org is devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/
> but that's rather slow to download from, and you're better off using
> some of mirrors listed at https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan
> 
> E.g
> https://sledjhamr.org/devuan-cd/devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/devuan_chimaera_4.0.alpha-20210614_amd64_netinstall.iso
> 
> Please report bugs via email sent to "submit" at bugs.devuan.org with
> the first 2 lines being the following:
> Package: devuan-installer
> Version: 4.0
> 
> But, please report against the source package concerned where you can
> isolate that. And, note that most packages come directly from Debian
> without forking, and that upstreamed reporting directly to Debian's bug
> tracking is then best (https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting).
> 
> 
> regards,
> 
> Ralph.
> 
> 
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Re: [DNG] Fw: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso

[aitor]

Hi,

On 3/8/21 10:36, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:

One thing that springs to mind is "newlisp" which depended on libffi6
on beowulf and libffi7 on chimaera; I'm not sure if that is relevant
for you, but I think I added it to vdev some winters ago, and I believe
you might be using vdev...

vdev uses newlisp -missing in jessie- to compile the udev rules,
though this issue happened under devuan with eudev.

Cheers,

Aitor.



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Re: [DNG] Fw: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso

[aitor]

Hi Ralph,

On 3/8/21 13:01, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:

Aitor,

eventually it dawned on me that probably you meant the mini.iso which
LeePen builds with debian-installer; he just now merged the forked s/w
(https://git.devuan.org/devuan/debian-installer.git) with debian's and
built new mini.iso(s). Perhaps that is a help?

regards,

Ralph.
Yesterday night i did something wrong trying to build d-i in the 
live-sdk, i guess.

Here you are the log file:

https://www.gnuinos.org/live-sdk/build_d-i.log 



Today i tried building it again step by step outside the environment 
(with the same version

20210606+devuan2 pulled from deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera) and all went
fine. It might be a mistake in my live-sdk, or i may well have mixed 
deb.devuan.org
with pkgmaster.devuan.org, whereas today's attempt was offline (export 
ONLINE=n).

Look atthe line nº11 in the log:

+ echo deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera main/debian-installer

However, the mirror is defined not only in sources.list.udeb.local, but 
also in config/common,
and i'm not sure what happens if they don't match. Devuan-installer 
tends to use pkgmaster by default.


Thanks,

Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] Fw: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso

[Ralph Ronnquist via Dng]

Aitor,

eventually it dawned on me that probably you meant the mini.iso which
LeePen builds with debian-installer; he just now merged the forked s/w
(https://git.devuan.org/devuan/debian-installer.git) with debian's and
built new mini.iso(s). Perhaps that is a help?

regards,

Ralph.

On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 18:36:22 +1000
Ralph Ronnquist  wrote:

> Hmm the installer iso's are built with the "installer-iso" project
> https://git.devuan.org/devuan/installer-iso.git
> using the branch amd64-chimaera-sudo (or i386-..)
> 
> This enumerates the udebs (in udeb-sets.mk.tmpl) and it doesn't seem
> to be upset .. it only pulls in libffi7 so evidently not any of those
> udebs. In fact, I tried grep libffi6 through its package files with
> empty result. These are all chimaera and not ceres of course.
> 
> One thing that springs to mind is "newlisp" which depended on libffi6
> on beowulf and libffi7 on chimaera; I'm not sure if that is relevant
> for you, but I think I added it to vdev some winters ago, and I
> believe you might be using vdev...
> 
> Ralph.
> 
> On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 09:54:14 +0200
> aitor  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Ralph,
> > 
> > On 18/6/21 0:24, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> > > The Chimaera alpha netinstall ISOs version dated 14-Jun-2021 or
> > > later now include "the final" versions of the forked udebs, and
> > > they need testing to confirm that it is ready for RC1 in the
> > > coming month.  
> > How are you building debian-installer in chimaera? I did it several 
> > times in ceres,
> > but i'm still getting some .udeb dependency issues in testing. For 
> > instance, libff6 has
> > been replaced by libff7, but there's still something depending on
> > it.
> > 
> > Are you passing flags like "--ignore-errors --keep-going" to the
> > make command, maybe?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Aitor.
> > 
> > 
> 

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Re: [DNG] Fw: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso

[Ralph Ronnquist via Dng]

Hmm the installer iso's are built with the "installer-iso" project
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/installer-iso.git
using the branch amd64-chimaera-sudo (or i386-..)

This enumerates the udebs (in udeb-sets.mk.tmpl) and it doesn't seem to
be upset .. it only pulls in libffi7 so evidently not any of those
udebs. In fact, I tried grep libffi6 through its package files with
empty result. These are all chimaera and not ceres of course.

One thing that springs to mind is "newlisp" which depended on libffi6
on beowulf and libffi7 on chimaera; I'm not sure if that is relevant
for you, but I think I added it to vdev some winters ago, and I believe
you might be using vdev...

Ralph.

On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 09:54:14 +0200
aitor  wrote:

> Hi Ralph,
> 
> On 18/6/21 0:24, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> > The Chimaera alpha netinstall ISOs version dated 14-Jun-2021 or
> > later now include "the final" versions of the forked udebs, and
> > they need testing to confirm that it is ready for RC1 in the coming
> > month.  
> How are you building debian-installer in chimaera? I did it several 
> times in ceres,
> but i'm still getting some .udeb dependency issues in testing. For 
> instance, libff6 has
> been replaced by libff7, but there's still something depending on it.
> 
> Are you passing flags like "--ignore-errors --keep-going" to the make 
> command, maybe?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Aitor.
> 
> 

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Re: [DNG] Fw: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso

[aitor]

Hi Ralph,

On 18/6/21 0:24, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:

The Chimaera alpha netinstall ISOs version dated 14-Jun-2021 or later
now include "the final" versions of the forked udebs, and they need
testing to confirm that it is ready for RC1 in the coming month.
How are you building debian-installer in chimaera? I did it several 
times in ceres,
but i'm still getting some .udeb dependency issues in testing. For 
instance, libff6 has

been replaced by libff7, but there's still something depending on it.

Are you passing flags like "--ignore-errors --keep-going" to the make 
command, maybe?


Cheers,

Aitor.


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[DNG] Fw: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso

[Ralph Ronnquist via Dng]

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 08:22:06 +1000
From: Ralph Ronnquist 
To: Devuan Maintainers 
Subject: Testers for Chimaera alpha netinstall iso


The Chimaera alpha netinstall ISOs version dated 14-Jun-2021 or later
now include "the final" versions of the forked udebs, and they need
testing to confirm that it is ready for RC1 in the coming month.

The URL path at files.devuan.org is devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/
but that's rather slow to download from, and you're better off using
some of mirrors listed at https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan

E.g
https://sledjhamr.org/devuan-cd/devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/devuan_chimaera_4.0.alpha-20210614_amd64_netinstall.iso

Please report bugs via email sent to "submit" at bugs.devuan.org with
the first 2 lines being the following:
Package: devuan-installer
Version: 4.0

But, please report against the source package concerned where you can
isolate that. And, note that most packages come directly from Debian
without forking, and that upstreamed reporting directly to Debian's bug
tracking is then best (https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting).


regards,

Ralph.


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