Re: [DNG] I'm not going to respond to messages like that.

2018-07-27 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 23:06:59 -0700
Rick Moen  wrote:

> 'The failure mode of clever is "asshole."'

This is a family list; so:

'The failure mode of clever is "orifice".'
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
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   the one that heralds new discoveries,  
   is not Eureka! (I found it!) but That's funny ?
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Re: [DNG] I'm not going to respond to messages like that.

2018-07-27 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 23:06:59 -0700
Rick Moen  wrote:

> 'The failure mode of clever is "asshole."'

Oh god that's spectacular.  It also explains a lot.. I'll have to
meditate on this.

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Re: [DNG] I'm not going to respond to messages like that.

2018-07-27 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org):

> Communication often gets lost in 'translation' especially across
> cultures but sometimes even within the same culture.  Rick's posts
> often contain subtle language that could challenge even native
> speakers.

I thank you very much -- and have to try to remember, when addressing a
multilingual audience, to curb my desire to be clever.  (Author John
Scalzi's well-known saying should serve as a warning to me:  'The
failure mode of clever is "asshole."'
https://whatever.scalzi.com/2010/06/16/the-failure-state-of-clever/ )


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Re: [DNG] I'm not going to respond to messages like that.

2018-07-26 Thread golinux

On 2018-07-26 17:04, Harald Arnesen wrote:

Rick Moen [2018-07-26 19:38]:


Quoting Basati (bas...@basatu.org):


I think there should be a little more respect for Europe's greatest
cultural treasure.


I hope you understand that I was speaking in _exactly_ that spirit.  
(In
case it wasn't clear, the person of whom I was saying 'Someone is a 
bit

provincial' was very much _not_ you, but rather the person who thought
the term 'Azeri' could not legitimately exist in two languages at the
same time.

If my intent of posting a friendly greeting including some warm bits 
of

welcome in the Basque language was somehow unclear, I am sorry that
happened, but that was the very opposite of my intention.


I, at least, had no difficulty in understanding what you meant. I think
it was a very respectful response on your part.



Communication often gets lost in 'translation' especially across 
cultures but sometimes even within the same culture.  Rick's posts often 
contain subtle language that could challenge even native speakers.


golinux
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Re: [DNG] I'm not going to respond to messages like that.

2018-07-26 Thread Harald Arnesen
Rick Moen [2018-07-26 19:38]:

> Quoting Basati (bas...@basatu.org):
> 
>> I think there should be a little more respect for Europe's greatest
>> cultural treasure.
> 
> I hope you understand that I was speaking in _exactly_ that spirit.  (In
> case it wasn't clear, the person of whom I was saying 'Someone is a bit
> provincial' was very much _not_ you, but rather the person who thought
> the term 'Azeri' could not legitimately exist in two languages at the
> same time.
> 
> If my intent of posting a friendly greeting including some warm bits of
> welcome in the Basque language was somehow unclear, I am sorry that
> happened, but that was the very opposite of my intention.

I, at least, had no difficulty in understanding what you meant. I think
it was a very respectful response on your part.
-- 
Hilsen Harald
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Re: [DNG] I'm not going to respond to messages like that.

2018-07-26 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Basati (bas...@basatu.org):

> I think there should be a little more respect for Europe's greatest
> cultural treasure.

I hope you understand that I was speaking in _exactly_ that spirit.  (In
case it wasn't clear, the person of whom I was saying 'Someone is a bit
provincial' was very much _not_ you, but rather the person who thought
the term 'Azeri' could not legitimately exist in two languages at the
same time.

If my intent of posting a friendly greeting including some warm bits of
welcome in the Basque language was somehow unclear, I am sorry that
happened, but that was the very opposite of my intention.

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[DNG] I'm not going to respond to messages like that.

2018-07-26 Thread Basati
El miércoles, 25 de julio de 2018 21:21:39 (CEST) Rick Moen escribió:
> Quoting Basati (bas...@basatu.org):
> > But what do you think about this?
> 
> Personally, I think:  Nola esaten da 'someone is a bit provincial'
> euskaraz?  ;->
> 
> Ongi etorri.  Pozten naiz zu ezagutzeaz.  (Ez dakit euskaraz hitz
> egiten.  But the world is much richer for your native language, and I
> thank & congratulate you for the Azeri project.)
> 
> > I thought this was a little trolly.
> 
> Jakinduria.
> 
> (Seriously, I do _not_ speak your fine language, so I hope I didn't
> mangle it too badly.)

I think there should be a little more respect for Europe's greatest cultural 
treasure.

It turns out that our language is the only Neolithic language that survives in 
Europe. We've been calling the Azeri at Fox for over 15.000 years.

I understand that there may be people who do not understand that a project can 
be called anything other than English. I suppose the name LibreOffice will also 
bother you.

In any case, the project is carried out with children who are Basque speakers.

I don't think we need to go into this any further.

A greeting

Basati

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

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