Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[emninger]

Am Thu, 16 Jun 2016 06:28:16 +
schrieb Robert Storey :

> I'm not a good programmer and thus not capable of writing a better
> installer, but I would like to suggest the possibility of taking the
> Ubuntu approach which allows the option to complete an installation
> with no network connection, using files on the CD as the base. Then,
> an update/upgrade after rebooting.

It is the same for me. I'm a simple user and all i'm able to do is, may
be, put together some script lines ;)

I find the ubuntu installer is "overdone" - but the idea, that the
basic system and utils are loaded from the installer iso (and not from
the net, exception made for an explicite netinstaller, whose goal is to
stay as small as possible) is good.

I, for one would prefer, an as simple as possible installer. One
example out of the debian world might be those of siduction (html
based).

Outside of the debian universe, i was astonished by the ease of the
manjaro installation routines and isos.

In this moment, i'm a bit happier (although still a bit angry about all
the time i spent invane to get Devuan to that damned Sony Vaio) since
seems i'll have a running Devuan Ascii on it now.

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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[emninger]

Am Thu, 16 Jun 2016 06:28:16 +
schrieb KatolaZ :

Hi KatolaZ!

> This is most probably the source of your problems. Have you tried to
> install jessie and then upgrade to ascii? 
> 
> My2Cents
> 
> KatolaZ

Yes, i did - to no extent.

Now, in a lot of frustration, i tried the simple (*NOT EXPERT*!)
installation mode (since i discovered it gives me too the option to
format manually the hd) installer - and curiously it goes through. It
fails then on tasksel with whatever desktop i choose. Only with
printserver & basic systemutils it goes through. I did that, used then
the rescue mode (which gives me the wireless connection) to install
lilo, xorg  

Then, i changed sources.list to ascii and upgraded. Keeping the
fingers crossed, it seems to work now (??!!)

Let me say this: A big ThankYou to you all for your patience. I'm well
aware i am a simple and often ingenuous user, but without your
friendly help and your patience, since a long i throw away devuan into
the spam and went elsewhere where there is no systemd.
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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[KatolaZ]

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:03:23PM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:

[cut]

> as / with boot flag enabled, keeping sda4 as ext4 /home (to keep my
> home from a previous crashed installation).
> 
> Network automatically configured via wireless (router inhouse)
> 
> I point to ascii


This is most probably the source of your problems. Have you tried to
install jessie and then upgrade to ascii? 

My2Cents

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[Robert Storey]

> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:21:40 +0200
> From: <emnin...@riseup.net>
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Subject: Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails
> Message-ID: <20160615182140.40c99387.emnin...@riseup.net>
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> Am Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:26:45 +
> schrieb Robert Storey <robert.sto...@gmail.com>:

>> Hi Robert!
>>
>> Note that my following comments apply only to a graphical install,
>> full-desktop version, which is actually the only kind I've attempted
>> so I can't say what would happen with a minimal install in
>> text-mode...
>
> In the end i went back to your suggestion: But it fails as well. Would
> you say 10 attempts of installing, installing  the base system
> are enough?
>
> On me it fails always at the same point and always with the same error.
> (For the record: libjson-c2 is needed by rsyslog but not installed).

It typically takes me about 3 or 4 attempts for the installer to succeed.
One thing to note: I have two ways of connecting to the Internet, either my
hard-wired ADSL or using my wifi with my smartphone as the wireless access
point. Where I live, my ADSL is very slow, the wifi/smart phone is faster.
And I noticed that I have greater success with the smart phone. I assume
that this is because there is less latency. I said "3 or 4 attempts for the
installer to succeed" and that is with the smart phone. On my slower ADSL,
it takes so long and times out so much that I give up in frustration.

Maybe closely related to this: I have my own little website (
http://outsideinn.tw) and when I upload graphic files to it using
Filezilla, I run into the same sort of issue - some files upload, but there
are timeouts and network error messages, but if I just re-run all the files
eventually upload. However, for this to succeed, I must choose the option
to "resume" (as opposed to the option "overwrite"), otherwise I will see
failure upon failure. Again, I think the issue is network latency - if I
choose smartphone/wifi which is faster than ADSL, I almost never see this
problem. If I'm not mistaken, the failure messages I am experiencing at the
slower speeds is the result of a network timeout.

I'm not a good programmer and thus not capable of writing a better
installer, but I would like to suggest the possibility of taking the Ubuntu
approach which allows the option to complete an installation with no
network connection, using files on the CD as the base. Then, an
update/upgrade after rebooting.

cheers,
Robert
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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[emninger]

Am Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:21:08 +
schrieb dev :

> I did a text mode install with Devuan amd64 DVD.iso over the weekend.
> In a virt-manager instance no less. Everything worked fine. Maybe
> give text mode install a try and see if results are better.

No, here it's in all expert "modes" the same. I remember that i also
had failures installing to qemu or to Virtualbox, but there mostly
after tasksel - so, using the rescue mode of the installer iso i could
play around.

In virtual only the simple mode (which installs jessie and as a
bootloader does not offer lilo (IIRC - but not sure on this point) went
through.

Now, on that machine i absolutely want to keep the existing /home
partition (so expert mode is needed).

I think i'll try a refracta iso; may that will work (hopefully ;) ).
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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[Hendrik Boom]

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 07:59:09PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote:
> 
> We are not so spoiled that we need to use a mouse for everything, are we?
> 

Only on machines without keyboards.  Is the X on-screen keyboard still 
a thing? 

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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[emninger]

Am Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:21:11 +
schrieb Robert Storey :

> Yes, I think that this IS important to fix. Even though I was able to
> work around the problem, there are many others out there who will
> give up at the first sign of trouble and head straight back to the
> comfort of Poettering Linux.

Frankly, considering the ease of installation, i already thought i
could go back the manjaro openrc installation i had before (which got
corrupted by some qemu experiments) and run devuan only in virtualbox
(but that's not really a good idea when you try to put together a
desktop for devuan - imho).

As for the installer: i remember the siduction people (who
unfortunately went full speed toward systemd :-( ) they had a nice
simple installing routine which is based on html. It was very simple,
but clear and self explaining, IIRC ...

In any case, although the installation is not easy to build, it should
not create trouble.

One good point in the devuan/debian installer (and i didn't remember
that from former times) is the automatic setup of the network. Years
ago you needed absolutely the hardwired connection to the router, now
the wireless setup works flawlessly.
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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[emninger]

Since we discussed in irc also about the installer problems (i have,
but others, at least partly share) i thought it might be a good idea to
describe exactly what i did and tried:

I use the installer cd 

I used both, graphical and text mode installer, so far no difference.

I chose several language layouts (precisely, de_utf8.de, fr_utf8.de,
it_utf8.it), defined keyboard as de, loaded all components from the
installer cd, formatted the hd manually, fresh formatting the sda1 ext4
as / with boot flag enabled, keeping sda4 as ext4 /home (to keep my
home from a previous crashed installation).

Network automatically configured via wireless (router inhouse)

I point to ascii

root with passwd, & user 

Then installing the base system i'm prompted with an error, which is
always the same:

error processing rsyslog (--configure)
dependency problems

rsyslog depends on libjson-c2 (>= 0.10); however:
 Package libjson-c2 is not installed

So far for the error.

Since i did succeed installing devuan on another machine (with terrible
overheating problems though) with amd graphics, may be it's worth to
note that the machine where i'm unable to install devuan is:

Sony-Vaio Core 7, nvidia graphics, 16 gig ram, 750 gig hd

(The netinst.iso fails equally).



I could install from the same iso, with some problems also, to qemu and
virtualbox running on a manjaro openrc linux. 

I could install devuan using the instructions of devlfanboy for a
minimal install on github - but trying to add more software and a
desktop, i ran into big, unsolvible problems at least for me ("fsck
exited with code 8" - during the boot; googling for that error results,
that might be a systemd related problem - which i believed to not be
able to deal with).

That's it from my side. Sorry for being unprecise, but i'm not so linux
skilled.

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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[dev]

On 06/15/2016 11:21 AM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:



So in this very moment, apparently there is no way to install devuan :-(

May be someone has an idea about alternatives (???)


I did a text mode install with Devuan amd64 DVD.iso over the weekend. In 
a virt-manager instance no less. Everything worked fine. Maybe give text 
mode install a try and see if results are better.

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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[emninger]

Am Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:26:45 +
schrieb :

> i Florian! I tried it that way but it did not work. I was prompted by
> the msg that libjson-c2 does not exist. May be it's provided by
> another package but i did not succeed in finding it out :-(
> 
> In the meantime, i tried another way: The instructions of devlfanboy
> on th git for a minimal installation. That went thru fine, but
> unfortunately, there seems to be something left of the old &
> completely corrupted installation that was on that disk before (a
> rest of grub). 
> 
> In the end i made it by lilo -M /dev/sda mbr.
> 
> But now there is another problem: Seems there are lost all the shadow
> passwords, both, for root and user. Is there a way to re-establish
> them? Please keep in mind, i'm a simple user, eh ... ;)
> 
> Thanks in any case for your patience.

In the end i gave up.

It was possible, and even easy to delete the root password, then i
could log in, use startx etc. Also adduser to add a normal user with
user-id 1000.

But then, booting i always get an error on fsck

'fsck exited with error code 8'

With Ctrl-D i could continue to boot, but the / volume was in read only
mode. By 

'mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda3 /'

i could get it back into read-write mode. But it's only for one session
the fsck error is back on any boot.

But, searching the web for the error code of fsck i saw it seems
something systemd related which needs patches here and there and i
decided to give up. It's already nearly 2 days i'm fighting with this
problem, and enough is enough.

Someone knows about a clean and simple way to install devuan?
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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[emninger]

Am Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:26:45 +
schrieb Robert Storey :

Hi Robert!

> Note that my following comments apply only to a graphical install,
> full-desktop version, which is actually the only kind I've attempted
> so I can't say what would happen with a minimal install in
> text-mode...
> 
> I've gotten this error on EVERY install I've done with Devuan, both
> laptop and desktop computer. However, recovery from the error was
> fairly straightforward, just go back to the screen to install the
> basic system, run it again (note: do not exit the installer!).
> Sometimes the error will still recur, but just keep going back and
> run it again, it will succeed. I believe what's happening is that the
> installer is downloading most of the files it needs but fails to
> download some, so by re-running it goes back and gets the rest of the
> files, it does not start from the very beginning and re-download
> everything. As to why it fails go get those files on the first run, I
> can't say, but it is downloading a lot and I'm guessing that any
> network latency is causing this problem.
> 
> Note that I am in Taiwan and since there is no local Devuan mirror
> here (I think), I'm downloading from the US server. This means a lot
> of network latency. Devuan users in the USA might not be seeing this
> error, and ditto for Europeans if there is a mirror in Europe.
> Getting back to my situation, even if there is a Devuan mirror in
> Japan it wouldn't help me because as I understand it, our network
> traffic to Japan is routed via the USA.
> 
> best regards,
> Robert

In the end i went back to your suggestion: But it fails as well. Would
you say 10 attempts of installing, installing  the base system
are enough?

On me it fails always at the same point and always with the same error. 
(For the record: libjson-c2 is needed by rsyslog but not installed).

So in this very moment, apparently there is no way to install devuan :-(

May be someone has an idea about alternatives (???)
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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[Robert Storey]

>
> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:21:20 +0200
> From: <emnin...@riseup.net>
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Subject: Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails
> Message-ID: <20160615112120.5a0ca29a.emnin...@riseup.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Am Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:26:45 +
> schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org:
>
> Hi Robert!
>
> Even if it's not really good news, it's a kind of confort, that this
> problem does not happen only to me ;) And seems Didier Kryn experiments
> the same.

Yes, I'm also (sort of) relieved that I'm not the only one experiencing
this. Thought I was going crazy!

> But if so: Shouldn't we investigate the installer? I mean, it's not
> really user friendly to have an installer subject to that kind of
> errors.

Yes, I think that this IS important to fix. Even though I was able to work
around the problem, there are many others out there who will give up at the
first sign of trouble and head straight back to the comfort of Poettering
Linux.

> schrieb Simon Walter <si...@gikaku.com>:
>
> Hi Simon!
>
> > Since it is a universal OS. I would suggest we disable the graphical
> > installer if it causing people to be put off. This may sound like
> > heresy, but the text base installer is not minimal and it is fully
> > functional.
>
>
> My problem (the failure while installing the base system) happens in
> both, the graphical and the text mode installer.
>
> I'd suspect there's something wrong with the underlying routines (as
> also L. Nodden noted).

Although I didn't try the text-mode installer, I suspect that's not the
problem. I'm still guessing it's network latency that trips up the
installer, though I could certainly be wrong.

One thing I have noticed is that the Devuan installer gives you a
completely up-to-date system when it's finished. There's no need to run
"apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" after installation. I presume
that's because the installer downloads every package it's going to install.
I didn't see an option to NOT do this. On Ubuntu, for example, you can
choose to not even connect to the Internet while installing, though after
the first boot you'd be wise to update/upgrade. Perhaps the Devuan
installer should offer this option? Or is that a bad idea?

cheers,
Robert
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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[Simon Walter]

On 06/15/2016 08:52 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:


We are not so spoiled that we need to use a mouse for everything, are
we?

Simon


My problem (the failure while installing the base system) happens in
both, the graphical and the text mode installer.

I'd suspect there's something wrong with the underlying routines (as
also L. Nodden noted).

A working and solid keyboard only installer would be fine for me - and
i think for most users: It's all about being well explained, input
error tollerant and solid ...

(I could even live fine with an i3 based desktop, when it is well
done ;) ).



Aha! OK, then please disregard my comment. Because I thought the problem 
was only with the graphical installer. It seems it is something deeper.


Do you get the overheating/CPU problem? I think that could be debugged, 
but it would have to be done on the problem machine.


This is a good idea:

On 06/09/2016 05:28 AM, Paweł Cholewiński wrote:
> W dniu 07.06.2016 o 12:38, emnin...@riseup.net pisze:
>> (How can i debug the installation?)
>
> You could use this document:
> 
https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Minimal-install-guide

>
> Use debootstrap --variant=minbase --include=nano,nvi,procps jessie
> /target http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged to add top command - You
> could use top on another console i.e. ctrl+alt+F3 after chroot to /target

Though maybe, while the installer is being perfected, there should be 
some tools for debugging available, rather than just busybox. Then 
people with problems can more easily help debug them and get the 
valuable info to the developers.


I installed from the netinstaller. So maybe on the full CD there is top 
and other tools. Anyone know what programs are on about the full CD?


Simon
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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[Didier Kryn]

Le 15/06/2016 12:59, Simon Walter a écrit :

On 06/15/2016 06:21 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
...


But if so: Shouldn't we investigate the installer? I mean, it's not
really user friendly to have an installer subject to that kind of
errors. And in my experience there are even other problems like the
overheating problem for amd graphics based machines, at least for some
of them. Or the fact, that the installer seems to not install the base
system it brings itself but seems to pull it from the mirrors.

Anyway, i'm well aware human ressources at Devuan are limited but the
installer should be worth a major consideration (?)


Since it is a universal OS. I would suggest we disable the graphical 
installer if it causing people to be put off. This may sound like 
heresy, but the text base installer is not minimal and it is fully 
functional. 


I didn't use the graphic installer. and I got the same problem as 
Robert, needing to run twice "install base system". I also remember 
reported overheating (related to the graphics card) were not observed in 
the graphic mode.


Actually I never used the graphical installer; neither in Devuan 
nor ever in Debian. I'm perfectly happy with the curses mode and see 
absolutely no need for the graphic one. But its removal does wouldn't 
solve the issue.


Didier

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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[emninger]

The following reply escaped me without editing the subject and the
author line. Please simply delete it or at least do not regard it.
Sorry for the mistake! :-(

Am Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:16:48 +
schrieb Simon Walter :

Hi Simon!

> Since it is a universal OS. I would suggest we disable the graphical 
> installer if it causing people to be put off. This may sound like 
> heresy, but the text base installer is not minimal and it is fully 
> functional.
> 
> I remember back in the days when Debian got the graphical installer,
> it was to be treated as BETA quality and if it didn't work, to use
> the text base.
> 
> I think the same applies here. Maybe we need to put a "use with
> caution" note. I think there was something like this on the original
> Debian graphical installer.
> 
> We are not so spoiled that we need to use a mouse for everything, are
> we?
> 
> Simon

My problem (the failure while installing the base system) happens in
both, the graphical and the text mode installer.

I'd suspect there's something wrong with the underlying routines (as
also L. Nodden noted).

A working and solid keyboard only installer would be fine for me - and
i think for most users: It's all about being well explained, input
error tollerant and solid ...

(I could even live fine with an i3 based desktop, when it is well
done ;) ).

Cheers.
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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[Florian Zieboll]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:59:09 +0900
Simon Walter  wrote:

> Since it is a universal OS. I would suggest we disable the graphical 
> installer if it causing people to be put off. This may sound like 
> heresy, but the text base installer is not minimal and it is fully 
> functional.

TUFT! (thumbs up for this:)


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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[Simon Walter]

On 06/15/2016 06:21 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
...


But if so: Shouldn't we investigate the installer? I mean, it's not
really user friendly to have an installer subject to that kind of
errors. And in my experience there are even other problems like the
overheating problem for amd graphics based machines, at least for some
of them. Or the fact, that the installer seems to not install the base
system it brings itself but seems to pull it from the mirrors.

Anyway, i'm well aware human ressources at Devuan are limited but the
installer should be worth a major consideration (?)


Since it is a universal OS. I would suggest we disable the graphical 
installer if it causing people to be put off. This may sound like 
heresy, but the text base installer is not minimal and it is fully 
functional.


I remember back in the days when Debian got the graphical installer, it 
was to be treated as BETA quality and if it didn't work, to use the text 
base.


I think the same applies here. Maybe we need to put a "use with caution" 
note. I think there was something like this on the original Debian 
graphical installer.


We are not so spoiled that we need to use a mouse for everything, are we?

Simon

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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[emninger]

Am Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:26:45 +
schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org:

Hi Robert!

> Note that my following comments apply only to a graphical install,
> full-desktop version, which is actually the only kind I've attempted
> so I can't say what would happen with a minimal install in
> text-mode...
> 
> I've gotten this error on EVERY install I've done with Devuan, both
> laptop and desktop computer. However, recovery from the error was
> fairly straightforward, just go back to the screen to install the
> basic system, run it again (note: do not exit the installer!).
> Sometimes the error will still recur, but just keep going back and
> run it again, it will succeed. I believe what's happening is that the
> installer is downloading most of the files it needs but fails to
> download some, so by re-running it goes back and gets the rest of the
> files, it does not start from the very beginning and re-download
> everything. As to why it fails go get those files on the first run, I
> can't say, but it is downloading a lot and I'm guessing that any
> network latency is causing this problem.
> 
> Note that I am in Taiwan and since there is no local Devuan mirror
> here (I think), I'm downloading from the US server. This means a lot
> of network latency. Devuan users in the USA might not be seeing this
> error, and ditto for Europeans if there is a mirror in Europe.
> Getting back to my situation, even if there is a Devuan mirror in
> Japan it wouldn't help me because as I understand it, our network
> traffic to Japan is routed via the USA.
> 
> best regards,
> Robert

Even if it's not really good news, it's a kind of confort, that this
problem does not happen only to me ;) And seems Didier Kryn experiments
the same.

But if so: Shouldn't we investigate the installer? I mean, it's not
really user friendly to have an installer subject to that kind of
errors. And in my experience there are even other problems like the
overheating problem for amd graphics based machines, at least for some
of them. Or the fact, that the installer seems to not install the base
system it brings itself but seems to pull it from the mirrors.

Anyway, i'm well aware human ressources at Devuan are limited but the
installer should be worth a major consideration (?)

Thanks again!

PS. If i do not succeed in repairing my installation like Florian
suggested i'll turn back to your method :)
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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[Didier Kryn]

Le 15/06/2016 00:57, Robert Storey a écrit :
However, recovery from the error was fairly straightforward, just go 
back to the screen to install the basic system, run it again (note: do 
not exit the installer!). Sometimes the error will still recur, but 
just keep going back and run it again, it will succeed.


I've experimented the same.Didier

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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[Florian Zieboll]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 02:25:45 +0200
 wrote:

> But now there is another problem: Seems there are lost all the shadow
> passwords, both, for root and user. Is there a way to re-establish
> them?

Hallo Emninger,

if you have the installer-disk handy, boot to rescue mode (chroot) and
just use 'passwd'. If you want to use another boot disk and chroot
manually, you'll need to make sure that it has a kernel from the same
branch. 

libre Grüße,

Florian

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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[emninger]

Am Tue, 14 Jun 2016 14:22:41 +
schrieb Florian Zieboll :

> From tty 2 or 3, you can wget that missing library, then move the deb
> to /target and chroot there to install it manually.
> 
> libre Grüße,
> 
> Florian

Hi Florian! I tried it that way but it did not work. I was prompted by
the msg that libjson-c2 does not exist. May be it's provided by another
package but i did not succeed in finding it out :-(

In the meantime, i tried another way: The instructions of devlfanboy on
th git for a minimal installation. That went thru fine, but
unfortunately, there seems to be something left of the old & completely
corrupted installation that was on that disk before (a rest of grub). 

In the end i made it by lilo -M /dev/sda mbr.

But now there is another problem: Seems there are lost all the shadow
passwords, both, for root and user. Is there a way to re-establish
them? Please keep in mind, i'm a simple user, eh ... ;)

Thanks in any case for your patience.

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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[emninger]

Am Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:08:50 +
schrieb Paweł Cholewiński :

> Hi,
> could You reproduce this error with another install? If yes, are there
> any other errors before package dependency problem with libjson-c2 on
> console4?
> 
> Regards,
> Paweł

I can reproduce this error with any install from that installer iso on
this machine. 

The machine is a Sony-Vaio Core 7 with nvidia graphics.

Or do you mean another installer iso. If so, which one do you have in
mind? I'd be very grateful for any suggestion.
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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[Robert Storey]

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 14:50:55 +0200
 wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> I have an urgent problem with the Devuan Jessie 1.0 installer:
>
> When it comes to install the basic system at a certain point the
> installation stops with an error. On console 4 i see the following
> error msg:
>
> .
> dpkg: error processing package rsyslog (--configure):
>  dependency problems -leaving unconfigured
> Errorswere encountered while processing:
>  rsyslog
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of rsyslog:
>  rsyslog depends on libjson-c2 (>= 0.10); however:
>   Package libjson-c2 is not installed.
> .

Note that my following comments apply only to a graphical install,
full-desktop version, which is actually the only kind I've attempted so I
can't say what would happen with a minimal install in text-mode...

I've gotten this error on EVERY install I've done with Devuan, both laptop
and desktop computer. However, recovery from the error was fairly
straightforward, just go back to the screen to install the basic system,
run it again (note: do not exit the installer!). Sometimes the error will
still recur, but just keep going back and run it again, it will succeed. I
believe what's happening is that the installer is downloading most of the
files it needs but fails to download some, so by re-running it goes back
and gets the rest of the files, it does not start from the very beginning
and re-download everything. As to why it fails go get those files on the
first run, I can't say, but it is downloading a lot and I'm guessing that
any network latency is causing this problem.

Note that I am in Taiwan and since there is no local Devuan mirror here (I
think), I'm downloading from the US server. This means a lot of network
latency. Devuan users in the USA might not be seeing this error, and ditto
for Europeans if there is a mirror in Europe. Getting back to my situation,
even if there is a Devuan mirror in Japan it wouldn't help me because as I
understand it, our network traffic to Japan is routed via the USA.

best regards,
Robert
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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[Paweł Cholewiński]

W dniu 14.06.2016 o 14:50, emnin...@riseup.net pisze:
> Hi all.
> 
> I have an urgent problem with the Devuan Jessie 1.0 installer:
> 
> When it comes to install the basic system at a certain point the
> installation stops with an error. On console 4 i see the following
> error msg:
> 
> .
> dpkg: error processing package rsyslog (--configure):
>  dependency problems -leaving unconfigured
> Errorswere encountered while processing:
>  rsyslog
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of rsyslog:
>  rsyslog depends on libjson-c2 (>= 0.10); however:
>   Package libjson-c2 is not installed.
> .
> 
> May be someone here can help me out, it's relatively urgent.
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance!
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Hi,
could You reproduce this error with another install? If yes, are there
any other errors before package dependency problem with libjson-c2 on
console4?

Regards,
Paweł


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Re: [DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[Florian Zieboll]

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 14:50:55 +0200
 wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> I have an urgent problem with the Devuan Jessie 1.0 installer:
> 
> When it comes to install the basic system at a certain point the
> installation stops with an error. On console 4 i see the following
> error msg:
> 
> .
> dpkg: error processing package rsyslog (--configure):
>  dependency problems -leaving unconfigured
> Errorswere encountered while processing:
>  rsyslog
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of rsyslog:
>  rsyslog depends on libjson-c2 (>= 0.10); however:
>   Package libjson-c2 is not installed.
> .



From tty 2 or 3, you can wget that missing library, then move the deb
to /target and chroot there to install it manually.

libre Grüße,

Florian

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[DNG] Installer Devuan Jessie 1.0 fails

[emninger]

Hi all.

I have an urgent problem with the Devuan Jessie 1.0 installer:

When it comes to install the basic system at a certain point the
installation stops with an error. On console 4 i see the following
error msg:

.
dpkg: error processing package rsyslog (--configure):
 dependency problems -leaving unconfigured
Errorswere encountered while processing:
 rsyslog
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of rsyslog:
 rsyslog depends on libjson-c2 (>= 0.10); however:
  Package libjson-c2 is not installed.
.

May be someone here can help me out, it's relatively urgent.

Thanks a lot in advance!
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