Re: [DNG] Installing sysv-init under Debian Buster
If there can be a convergence on this topic, I think it might be useful addition to the Devuan FAQ, relevant as it concerns init freedom. Q: I'm not ready to move to Devuan yet. Can I setup Debian to use sysvinit instead of systemd? A: For Buster (Debian's current stable distribution) the following steps are suggested. apt install -y sysvinit-core elogind apt --purge autoremove [Answers for Jessie, other releases] -- Joel Roth "Welcome to the World Heat Bank, where we store your waste energy and return it with interest." ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Installing sysv-init under Debian Buster
On 2019-07-08 01:24, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Joel Roth via Dng - 07.07.19, 23:39: Noting here a solution from the debian-user mailing list. I'm aware there's a team working for init system flexibility on Debian and send my kudos and beer vouchers to them :-) https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/06/msg00961.html quoted message follow > On Jun 27, 2019, at 12:42 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jonas Smedegaard >> wrote: >> >> Seems this would work as well, with less collateral damage: >> >> apt install -y sysvinit-core elogind >> apt --purge autoremove > > This works great and, as noted, is far more elegant. […] A warning about all of these solutions: They will remove the package, network-manager. Sometimes this may rewrite the Not here. I am still running Debian with elogind and Plasma and Network Manager just fine. As I did not bother yet to switch to Devuan, but in order to replace systemd-udevd by eudev I likely will at some point in time. I do not remember whether I did it exactly like above, but I am sure that in general Network Manager can be run without Systemd just fine. Anyway, I posted it all here and/or on devuan-dev and its still available in the archives. Here it is: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20190425.103306.17b0d534.en.html I just a few minutes ago posted it for someone on irc. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Installing sysv-init under Debian Buster
Joel Roth via Dng - 07.07.19, 23:39: > Noting here a solution from the debian-user mailing list. > > I'm aware there's a team working for init system flexibility > on Debian and send my kudos and beer vouchers to them :-) > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/06/msg00961.html > > > quoted message follow > > > On Jun 27, 2019, at 12:42 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > >> On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jonas Smedegaard > >> wrote: > >> > >> Seems this would work as well, with less collateral damage: > >> > >> apt install -y sysvinit-core elogind > >> apt --purge autoremove > > > > This works great and, as noted, is far more elegant. […] > A warning about all of these solutions: They will remove the package, > network-manager. Sometimes this may rewrite the Not here. I am still running Debian with elogind and Plasma and Network Manager just fine. As I did not bother yet to switch to Devuan, but in order to replace systemd-udevd by eudev I likely will at some point in time. I do not remember whether I did it exactly like above, but I am sure that in general Network Manager can be run without Systemd just fine. Anyway, I posted it all here and/or on devuan-dev and its still available in the archives. -- Martin ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Installing sysv-init under Debian Buster
Hi List, Noting here a solution from the debian-user mailing list. I'm aware there's a team working for init system flexibility on Debian and send my kudos and beer vouchers to them :-) https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/06/msg00961.html quoted message follow > On Jun 27, 2019, at 12:42 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > >> On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> >> Seems this would work as well, with less collateral damage: >> >> apt install -y sysvinit-core elogind >> apt --purge autoremove >> > > This works great and, as noted, is far more elegant. > > Thanks, Jonas! > Rick A warning about all of these solutions: They will remove the package, network-manager. Sometimes this may rewrite the “/etc/network/interfaces” file. You can loose network connectivity after a reboot as a result. Be prepared to login to the console and fix that up manually if it happens. Another work-around is to, before doing any apt stuff at all, put a suitable fragment into the “/etc/network/interfaces.d/“ directory that configures at least one of your network interfaces the way you want it. As an example, on my test system I have: > $ cat /etc/network/interfaces.d/enp0s3 > auto enp0s3 > iface enp0s3 inet dhcp Hope it helps! Rick -- Joel Roth "Welcome to the World Heat Bank, where we store your waste energy and return it with interest." ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
