Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 02:44:41PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote: > I wish that the first three emails had their replies intact and were in > the reply after quote style. Then I would print it out and frame it. As an example of newcomer coming for help and then being drown in offtopic banter? -- Tomasz Torcz “God, root, what's the difference?” to...@pipebreaker.pl “God is more forgiving.” ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > It *does* list a co-author. Funny thing is, the co-author's name seems > kinda familiar, and I'm wondering where I heard his name before. I think it's actually a franchise -- like Dread Pirate Roberts. Westley:Well, Roberts had grown so rich, he wanted to retire. So he took me to his cabin, and told me his secret. "I am not the Dread Pirate Roberts", he said. "My name is Ryan. I inherited the ship from the previous Dread Pirate Roberts, just as you will inherit it from me. The man I inherited it from was not the real Dread Pirate Roberts either. His name was Cummerbund. The real Roberts has been retired fifteen years and living like a king in Patagonia." Thank you. Then he explained that the name was the important thing for inspiring the necessary fear. You see, no one would surrender to the Dread Pirate Westley. So we sailed ashore, took on an entirely new crew, and he stayed aboard for a while as first mate, all the time calling me Roberts. Once the crew believed, he left the ship, and I have been Roberts ever since. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
I wish that the first three emails had their replies intact and were in the reply after quote style. Then I would print it out and frame it. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 17:54:20 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > > > Someone did, as I expect you already know. Here's Eric Stephen > > Raymond's version: > > > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > All I can say is that Eric Steven Raymond's version would be _much_ > better with a co-author credited right at the top of the essay who > is often hilariously forgotten in online mentions of the piece. ;-> It *does* list a co-author. Funny thing is, the co-author's name seems kinda familiar, and I'm wondering where I heard his name before. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
On 2021年2月2日 10:54:20 JST, Rick Moen wrote: >Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > >> Someone did, as I expect you already know. Here's Eric Stephen >> Raymond's version: >> >> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > >All I can say is that Eric Steven Raymond's version would be _much_ >better with a co-author credited right at the top of the essay who >is often hilariously forgotten in online mentions of the piece. ;-> > >(Eric spells his middle name Steven, not Stephen.) > >See if you can tell, reading the piece, which of its passages are in >Eric's writing style and which are in that other often-forgotten guy's >style. The difference of authorial 'voice' seems night-and-day to me, >but -- horses for courses; à chacun son goût. > >-- >Cheers, This limerick goes in reverse. If you start from the >bottom-most verse >Rick Moen Unless I'm remiss, This limerick's not any worse. >rick@linu The neat thing is this:-- Zach Weiner >xmafia.com >McQ! (4x80) >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng This conversation is making my day! Arigatou!___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > Someone did, as I expect you already know. Here's Eric Stephen > Raymond's version: > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html All I can say is that Eric Steven Raymond's version would be _much_ better with a co-author credited right at the top of the essay who is often hilariously forgotten in online mentions of the piece. ;-> (Eric spells his middle name Steven, not Stephen.) See if you can tell, reading the piece, which of its passages are in Eric's writing style and which are in that other often-forgotten guy's style. The difference of authorial 'voice' seems night-and-day to me, but -- horses for courses; à chacun son goût. -- Cheers, This limerick goes in reverse. If you start from the bottom-most verse Rick Moen Unless I'm remiss, This limerick's not any worse. rick@linu The neat thing is this:-- Zach Weiner xmafia.com McQ! (4x80) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 12:02:34PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Adrian Zaugg (devuan@mailgurgler.com): > > > It is difficult to help, if you don't write what you exactly donwloaded, > > how you tried to install, on what system etc. It is somehow like: "I ate > > somethin' for dinner and now I have stomach ache. Please help me!!!" – > > what would you answer? Reading that on a mailing list you probably would > > just ignore such a person ... > > I think someone should write an online essay called something like 'How > to Ask Questions the Smart Way', to help such folks. Someone did, as I expect you already know. Here's Eric Stephen Rymond's version: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- hendrik > > -- > Cheers, This limerick goes in reverse. If you start from the bottom-most > verse > Rick Moen Unless I'm remiss, This limerick's not any worse. > rick@linu The neat thing is this:-- Zach Weiner > xmafia.com McQ! > (4x80) > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > I'm old, but I seem to remember a web page with a similar name. Years > ago, I wrote those guys who run the web page, with my patented, > always-succeeds method of getting an answer on a technical mailing > list, and those guys didn't want to put my method on their page. They > said my method was "manipulative". Those guys? They're total jerks. You should definitely never trust them; take my word for that. (One of them's a Scandinavian, and my Tante Bjorg warned me to never trust _them_.) > Because I have low self-esteem, I abandoned my method. Now, when I need > email help, I always use the same subject line: "Computer doesn't work", > and submit a 30KB or more file: Either an entire dmesg from the time it > booted last year, or five complete source files in RAR format. To make > sure I don't prejudice those who might help me, I never tell version > numbers, or whether it's Linux, Windows, Mac or BSD. If it's a > programming problem I never identify the language. I never say what I > hope to accomplish, because it's their job to tell me what I want to > accomplish. When I don't get answers, I send a whiny reminder every two > hours. When all this doesn't work, I use a web search. Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXesMkAYh44 -- Cheers, This limerick goes in reverse. If you start from the bottom-most verse Rick Moen Unless I'm remiss, This limerick's not any worse. rick@linu The neat thing is this:-- Zach Weiner xmafia.com McQ! (4x80) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 12:02:34 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Adrian Zaugg (devuan@mailgurgler.com): > > > It is difficult to help, if you don't write what you exactly > > donwloaded, how you tried to install, on what system etc. It is > > somehow like: "I ate somethin' for dinner and now I have stomach > > ache. Please help me!!!" – what would you answer? Reading that on a > > mailing list you probably would just ignore such a person ... > > I think someone should write an online essay called something like > 'How to Ask Questions the Smart Way', to help such folks. I'm old, but I seem to remember a web page with a similar name. Years ago, I wrote those guys who run the web page, with my patented, always-succeeds method of getting an answer on a technical mailing list, and those guys didn't want to put my method on their page. They said my method was "manipulative". Because I have low self-esteem, I abandoned my method. Now, when I need email help, I always use the same subject line: "Computer doesn't work", and submit a 30KB or more file: Either an entire dmesg from the time it booted last year, or five complete source files in RAR format. To make sure I don't prejudice those who might help me, I never tell version numbers, or whether it's Linux, Windows, Mac or BSD. If it's a programming problem I never identify the language. I never say what I hope to accomplish, because it's their job to tell me what I want to accomplish. When I don't get answers, I send a whiny reminder every two hours. When all this doesn't work, I use a web search. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
Quoting Antony Stone (antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it): > On Monday 01 February 2021 at 21:02:34, Rick Moen wrote: > > > I think someone should write an online essay called something like 'How > > to Ask Questions the Smart Way', to help such folks. > > https://xkcd.com/927/ As the actual co-author of "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way", who accordingly gets a tonne of irony-challenged e-mail from hopelessly confused end-users with technical problems (who were pointed at our essay, didn't read it, and imagined the authors are a universal free-of-charge Internet helpdesk), sometimes I wish there _were_ 15 competing versions of our essay. -- Cheers, This limerick goes in reverse. If you start from the bottom-most verse Rick Moen Unless I'm remiss, This limerick's not any worse. rick@linu The neat thing is this:-- Zach Weiner xmafia.com McQ! (4x80) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
On Monday 01 February 2021 at 21:02:34, Rick Moen wrote: > I think someone should write an online essay called something like 'How > to Ask Questions the Smart Way', to help such folks. https://xkcd.com/927/ Antony :) -- Under UK law, no VAT is charged on biscuits and cakes - they are "zero rated". Chocolate covered biscuits, however, are classed as "luxury items" and are subject to VAT. McVitie's classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991 this was challenged by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise in court. The question which had to be answered was what criteria should be used to class something as a cake or a biscuit. McVitie's defended the classification of Jaffa Cakes as a cake by arguing that cakes go hard when stale, whereas biscuits go soft. It was demonstrated that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale and McVitie's won the case. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
I was having the same trouble recently and it turned out to be attempting to run a beowulf guest on an ascii host. I am running kvm. Kernel version issues in the the version 4 kernel not seeming to like to run under a version 3 kernel I think. I spun up an experimental host running beowulf and imported a beowulf vm fro the current host and imported it. It spun right up with no issues. I did not have to make any changes. info for the list if it’s not your issue. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 1, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > > Quoting Adrian Zaugg (devuan@mailgurgler.com): > >> It is difficult to help, if you don't write what you exactly donwloaded, >> how you tried to install, on what system etc. It is somehow like: "I ate >> somethin' for dinner and now I have stomach ache. Please help me!!!" – >> what would you answer? Reading that on a mailing list you probably would >> just ignore such a person ... > > I think someone should write an online essay called something like 'How > to Ask Questions the Smart Way', to help such folks. > > -- > Cheers, This limerick goes in reverse. If you start from the bottom-most > verse > Rick Moen Unless I'm remiss, This limerick's not any worse. > rick@linu The neat thing is this:-- Zach Weiner > xmafia.com McQ! > (4x80) > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
Quoting Adrian Zaugg (devuan@mailgurgler.com): > It is difficult to help, if you don't write what you exactly donwloaded, > how you tried to install, on what system etc. It is somehow like: "I ate > somethin' for dinner and now I have stomach ache. Please help me!!!" – > what would you answer? Reading that on a mailing list you probably would > just ignore such a person ... I think someone should write an online essay called something like 'How to Ask Questions the Smart Way', to help such folks. -- Cheers, This limerick goes in reverse. If you start from the bottom-most verse Rick Moen Unless I'm remiss, This limerick's not any worse. rick@linu The neat thing is this:-- Zach Weiner xmafia.com McQ! (4x80) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
Hi Budi It is difficult to help, if you don't write what you exactly donwloaded, how you tried to install, on what system etc. It is somehow like: "I ate somethin' for dinner and now I have stomach ache. Please help me!!!" – what would you answer? Reading that on a mailing list you probably would just ignore such a person ... Regards, Adrian. On 25.01.21 04:44, Budi via Dng wrote: > How to install Devuan Beowolf > Tried to have it booted out of usb and automatically run fast > but but only got "initramfs" shell prompt > Please help me!!! > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Need install Devuan Beowolf but got "initramfs" prompt
How to install Devuan Beowolf Tried to have it booted out of usb and automatically run fast but but only got "initramfs" shell prompt Please help me!!! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
