Re: [DNG] New here and needing help about backports

2018-07-24 Thread Stephane Ascoet 

Le 24/07/2018 à 14:11, Urban Wallasch a écrit :



Background: By default the backports repositories take lower priority than
the main repositories, so you have to explicitly tell the package manager
your intent to install a backported package - unless the backported version
is already required as a dependency of an already (to be) installed package,
which will lead to the correct version being pulled right away.


Yes I know this and I used this syntax for my first tries with 
virtualbox... since it was in contrib I didn't need it after you helped 
me and thus I forgotten to use it this time!



  If, for example, linux-headers-4.16.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 is to be installed,
then linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86 should be installed automagically.



Here is the weird thing: it's exactly what I need to do and it didn't do 
this expected behaviour!


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[DNG] New here and needing help about backports

2018-07-24 Thread Irrwahn 
[Sorry, I accidentally hit "reply" instead of "reply list"; here's 
the same message re-posted to DNG.]

Stephane Ascoet wrote on 24.07.2018 13:33:
[...]
> But now I'm stuck with a similar problem for "linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86 
> 4.16.16-2~bpo9+1 [kernel - optional]"
> 
> It is needed but I can't install it because when I "aptitude search 
> linux-compiler" I get:
> i A linux-compiler-gcc-4.8-x86 
>- Compiler for Linux on x86 
> (meta-package) 
> 
> 
> i   linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86 
>- Compiler for Linux on x86 
> (meta-package)
> 
> When I install linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86 I get:
>   ii  linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86   4.9.110-1 
> amd64
> 
> I can't get the 4.16 one, please help!!!
> 

Hi Stephane,

did you explicitly tell whatever apt frontend you're using to pull the 
package from ascii-backports?  Like e.g.:

  apt-get install -t ascii-backports linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86

Re-reading your text I see you used aptitude for searching, so as an 
alternative you can use its interactive mode to mark the desired package 
for installation.

Background: By default the backports repositories take lower priority than
the main repositories, so you have to explicitly tell the package manager 
your intent to install a backported package - unless the backported version 
is already required as a dependency of an already (to be) installed package, 
which will lead to the correct version being pulled right away. 
  If, for example, linux-headers-4.16.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 is to be installed, 
then linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86 should be installed automagically.

HTH, regards
Urban

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Re: [DNG] New here and needing help about backports

2018-07-24 Thread Stephane Ascoet 

Hi Stephane,

as you can tell from page you linked to the link you posted VirtualBox
is placed in the 'contrib' section, which you did not enable for the
ascii-* stanzas in your sources.list.

HTH, best regards
Urban



Hi, yeah thanks, I was surprised that it would be in main section since 
it's not a perfectly GPL freedom compliant software... but we need to 
open the details page of the package to be sure of this, Devuan package 
website is very far below from the Debian one.


So it finally worked thanks to your advice and then I just had to 
install "virtualbox" package to have the latest available one.


But now I'm stuck with a similar problem for "linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86 
4.16.16-2~bpo9+1 [kernel - optional]"


It is needed but I can't install it because when I "aptitude search 
linux-compiler" I get:
i A linux-compiler-gcc-4.8-x86 
  - Compiler for Linux on x86 
(meta-package) 



i   linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86 
  - Compiler for Linux on x86 
(meta-package)


When I install linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86 I get:
 ii  linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86   4.9.110-1 
   amd64


I can't get the 4.16 one, please help!!!

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Re: [DNG] New here and needing help about backports

2018-07-13 Thread KatolaZ 
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 12:06:38PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> Stephane Ascoet wrote on 13.07.2018 11:53:
> [cut]
> > On 
> > 
> >  
> > I can see "[ascii-backports] virtualbox-5.2.10-dfsg-6~bpo9+1".
> > 
> > So I "aptitude update" but after that, "aptitude search virtualbox" only 
> > gives me "i   virtualbox-5.1". What's going on???
> > 
> > For information:
> > cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> [cut]
> > deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii main
> > deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main
> > deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main
> > deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports main
> [cut]
> 
> Hi Stephane,
> 
> as you can tell from page you linked to the link you posted VirtualBox 
> is placed in the 'contrib' section, which you did not enable for the 
> ascii-* stanzas in your sources.list.
> 

Nice catch, Irrwahn ;)

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Re: [DNG] New here and needing help about backports

2018-07-13 Thread Irrwahn 
Stephane Ascoet wrote on 13.07.2018 11:53:
[cut]
> On 
> 
>  
> I can see "[ascii-backports] virtualbox-5.2.10-dfsg-6~bpo9+1".
> 
> So I "aptitude update" but after that, "aptitude search virtualbox" only 
> gives me "i   virtualbox-5.1". What's going on???
> 
> For information:
> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[cut]
> deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii main
> deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main
> deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main
> deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports main
[cut]

Hi Stephane,

as you can tell from page you linked to the link you posted VirtualBox 
is placed in the 'contrib' section, which you did not enable for the 
ascii-* stanzas in your sources.list.

HTH, best regards
Urban

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Re: [DNG] New here and needing help about backports

2018-07-13 Thread KatolaZ 
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:53:59AM +0200, Stephane Ascoet wrote:
> Hi, I'm using Devuan at work since the Jessie release, migrating from Debian
> Wheezy. I did the same on my mother computer last Christmas. And I just
> updated the computer of my work to Ascii last Monday.
> 
> Each update need lot of work after the process because lots of configuration
> files and scripts are overwritten or don't work as they did before, but it's
> not the point of this message. Now I'm trying to update VirtualBox with the
> one in Backports. I sucessfully updated the kernel doing "aptitude install
> linux-image-4.16.0-0.bpo.2-amd64".
> On 
> 
> I can see "[ascii-backports] virtualbox-5.2.10-dfsg-6~bpo9+1".
> 
> So I "aptitude update" but after that, "aptitude search virtualbox" only
> gives me "i   virtualbox-5.1". What's going on???
> 

Welcome Stephane,

  $ apt-cache policy virtualbox

please.

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[DNG] New here and needing help about backports

2018-07-13 Thread Stephane Ascoet 
Hi, I'm using Devuan at work since the Jessie release, migrating from 
Debian Wheezy. I did the same on my mother computer last Christmas. And 
I just updated the computer of my work to Ascii last Monday.


Each update need lot of work after the process because lots of 
configuration files and scripts are overwritten or don't work as they 
did before, but it's not the point of this message. Now I'm trying to 
update VirtualBox with the one in Backports. I sucessfully updated the 
kernel doing "aptitude install linux-image-4.16.0-0.bpo.2-amd64".
On 
 
I can see "[ascii-backports] virtualbox-5.2.10-dfsg-6~bpo9+1".


So I "aptitude update" but after that, "aptitude search virtualbox" only 
gives me "i   virtualbox-5.1". What's going on???


For information:
cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie main
#deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main
#deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main
#deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports main
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii main
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-backports main
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 lxde-CD 
Binary-1 20140712-14:09]/ wheezy main


#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 lxde-CD 
Binary-1 20140712-14:09]/ wheezy main


#deb http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib
#deb-src http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main

#deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

# wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
#deb http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
#deb-src http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main

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