Re: [DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer?
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:14:32 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Let's say, just for fun, that I expected to be permanently > disconnected from the Internet, but still wanted to use my computer, > kind of how I used my computer 1985-1995. If you additionally want to be able to do an offline version of apt get upgrade I believe the software to use is "apt-offline". It will let you - Build a list of files on your offline system - Sneakernet with those data to an internet-connected system - Have it selectively fetch the necessary files and dependencies - Return to your offline system with those files - Upgrade with those files It might be smart enough to let you update (with dependencies) only select software; I don't remember. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer?
- Original Message - From: "Ralph Ronnquist via Dng" To: Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer? On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:14:19 +0100 aitor wrote: Hi, On 24/2/22 21:39, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote: >> Isn't that exactly what >> https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/desktop-live/ >> >> and >> https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/ >> devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso and >> devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_i386_desktop.iso >> >> do? > And you'd need to burn the packages of all extra software you want > (e.g. *-dev) + dependecies - in case that you want to install them > later. Might turn out that you need a copy > ofhttp://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera-* of whatever > architecture you want to use. Don't know how big a copy of one > architecture might be, but I guess you should use BD instead of > DVD. Only the netinst image requires network connection. This image contains just the minimal amount of packages to install the base system; from thereon the remaining packages are installed over the internet. For your purpose, Steve, the desktop installer-iso mentioned by golinux might be the best choice. As a complement, cd2, cd3 and cd4 contain more packages sorted by popularity. So labeled images are entirely optional and play the role of a local repository that can be added with "apt-cdrom add". Hence, they aren't meant to boot. .. and nowadays there is the "pool1" ISO that includes the 5000 "most popular" packages. That's double of desktop ISO which merely includes the 2500 most "popular packages". Thank you, you answered a question I was about to ask Ralph. Best Regards -- Ismael Devuan User: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan Web Site: https://gitlab.uic.cu/ismael.donis/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer?
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:28:57 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > /troll mode NB, for topical reasons: I suggest to check the shasums and correct me, pgpsigned, if I'm wrong. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer?
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Re: [DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer?
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:14:19 +0100 aitor wrote: > Hi, > > On 24/2/22 21:39, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote: > > >> Isn't that exactly what > >> https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/desktop-live/ > >> > >> and > >> https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/ > >> devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso and > >> devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_i386_desktop.iso > >> > >> do? > > And you'd need to burn the packages of all extra software you want > > (e.g. *-dev) + dependecies - in case that you want to install them > > later. Might turn out that you need a copy > > ofhttp://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera-* of whatever > > architecture you want to use. Don't know how big a copy of one > > architecture might be, but I guess you should use BD instead of > > DVD. > > Only the netinst image requires network connection. This image > contains just the minimal amount of packages to install the base > system; from thereon the remaining packages are installed over the > internet. > > For your purpose, Steve, the desktop installer-iso mentioned by > golinux might be the best choice. As a complement, cd2, cd3 and cd4 > contain more packages sorted by popularity. So labeled images are > entirely optional and play the role of a local repository that can be > added with "apt-cdrom add". Hence, they aren't meant to boot. .. and nowadays there is the "pool1" ISO that includes the 5000 "most popular" packages. That's double of desktop ISO which merely includes the 2500 most "popular packages". Ralph. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer?
Hi, On 24/2/22 21:39, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng wrote: Isn't that exactly what https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/desktop-live/ and https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/ devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso and devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_i386_desktop.iso do? And you'd need to burn the packages of all extra software you want (e.g. *-dev) + dependecies - in case that you want to install them later. Might turn out that you need a copy ofhttp://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera-* of whatever architecture you want to use. Don't know how big a copy of one architecture might be, but I guess you should use BD instead of DVD. Only the netinst image requires network connection. This image contains just the minimal amount of packages to install the base system; from thereon the remaining packages are installed over the internet. For your purpose, Steve, the desktop installer-iso mentioned by golinux might be the best choice. As a complement, cd2, cd3 and cd4 contain more packages sorted by popularity. So labeled images are entirely optional and play the role of a local repository that can be added with "apt-cdrom add". Hence, they aren't meant to boot. Cheers, Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer?
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 15:14:32 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Let's say, just for fun, that I expected to be permanently > disconnected from the Internet, but still wanted to use my computer, > kind of how I used my computer 1985-1995. https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/3.0_r6/i386/iso-cd/ scnr & LIBRE gRÜẞE, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer?
Anno domini 2022 Thu, 24 Feb 14:25:06 -0600 goli...@devuan.org scripsit: > On 2022-02-24 14:14, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Let's say, just for fun, that I expected to be permanently disconnected > > from the Internet, but still wanted to use my computer, kind of how I > > used my computer 1985-1995. Is there a way I could install Chimera on > > DVDs so that I could install Chimera, on any computer with a DVD drive, > > and use it? Please remember the expectation of permanent disconnection > > from the Internet, so that security wouldn't be much of an issue. > > > > In other words, I'm asking if there's a way I could have a Chimera > > install DVD set that would act like the Linux install sets back in the > > 1990's, when there was not an assumption you'd have a connection to the > > Internet. > > > > With Devuan, what would be my best way of doing this, if any? > > > > Thanks, > > > > SteveT > > > > Isn't that exactly what > https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/desktop-live/ > > and > https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/ > devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso and > devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_i386_desktop.iso > > do? And you'd need to burn the packages of all extra software you want (e.g. *-dev) + dependecies - in case that you want to install them later. Might turn out that you need a copy of http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera-* of whatever architecture you want to use. Don't know how big a copy of one architecture might be, but I guess you should use BD instead of DVD. Nik > > golinux > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer?
On 2022-02-24 14:14, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Let's say, just for fun, that I expected to be permanently disconnected from the Internet, but still wanted to use my computer, kind of how I used my computer 1985-1995. Is there a way I could install Chimera on DVDs so that I could install Chimera, on any computer with a DVD drive, and use it? Please remember the expectation of permanent disconnection from the Internet, so that security wouldn't be much of an issue. In other words, I'm asking if there's a way I could have a Chimera install DVD set that would act like the Linux install sets back in the 1990's, when there was not an assumption you'd have a connection to the Internet. With Devuan, what would be my best way of doing this, if any? Thanks, SteveT Isn't that exactly what https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/desktop-live/ and https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/installer-iso/ devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso and devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_i386_desktop.iso do? golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] No-Internet Devuan Installer?
Hi all, Let's say, just for fun, that I expected to be permanently disconnected from the Internet, but still wanted to use my computer, kind of how I used my computer 1985-1995. Is there a way I could install Chimera on DVDs so that I could install Chimera, on any computer with a DVD drive, and use it? Please remember the expectation of permanent disconnection from the Internet, so that security wouldn't be much of an issue. In other words, I'm asking if there's a way I could have a Chimera install DVD set that would act like the Linux install sets back in the 1990's, when there was not an assumption you'd have a connection to the Internet. With Devuan, what would be my best way of doing this, if any? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt March 2022 featured book: Making Mental Models: Advanced Edition http://www.troubleshooters.com/mmm ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
