Re: [DNG] Unable to access pool in repository

2022-07-16 Thread Ludovic Bellière via Dng

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On Sat, 16 Jul 2022, Hendrik Boom wrote:


On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 11:11:04PM +1000, onefang wrote:

On 2022-07-16 08:21:13, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I tried installing sharutils using aptitude, and was unable to.
> aptitude told me:
> Temporary failure resolving 'deb.devuan.org'
> and later:
> E: Failed to fetch
>
http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/s/sharutils/sharutils_4.15.2
>-5_amd64.deb: Temporary failure resolving 'deb.devuan.org'
>
> In the browser, I had no problem at all reaching http://deb.devuan.org
> but http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ did not contain pool:
>
> Index of /merged
>
> NameLast modified  Size
> Parent Directory -
> dists/  2022-05-14 11:06-
>
> What gives?

Your first problem might just be whatever name server you use, it might
have been having problems when you tried aptitude, but not when you tried
a browser.  I recently switched to using unbound for the first time, and
I get that several times a day now.

deb.devuan.org is a DNS round robin, it'll hand out a different IP from
our collection of package mirrors.  So the first thing you should do when
telling us about problems with it is which IP you got out of it at the
time.


Unfortunately, neither aptitude nor firefox told me the IP number they
 were using.
Maybe it would be useful if aptitude would do that on this kind of error.

-- hendrik


A temporary failure resolving a domain name means that you didn't
*resolve* it to an IP address.  That means your DNS server cannot either
be reached or is in error.  If the remote server cannot be reached,
because it's down, then it'll tell you so.

So the problem here is between you and your DNS, not between you and
Devuan's round robin.  Without more information, I can only speculate.

Could be hardware related, a full routing table, your ISP being evil.
Who knows?  When that happens, quickly troubleshoot with:

dig deb.devuan.org

or

host deb.devuan.org

dig will tell you which DNS server you default to.

Cheers,
Ludovic


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Re: [DNG] Unable to access pool in repository

2022-07-16 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 11:11:04PM +1000, onefang wrote:
> On 2022-07-16 08:21:13, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I tried installing sharutils using aptitude, and was unable to.
> > aptitude told me:
> > Temporary failure resolving 'deb.devuan.org'
> > and later:
> > E: Failed to fetch
> >
> > http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/s/sharutils/sharutils_4.15.2
> >-5_amd64.deb: Temporary failure resolving 'deb.devuan.org'
> > 
> > In the browser, I had no problem at all reaching http://deb.devuan.org
> > but http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ did not contain pool:
> > 
> > Index of /merged
> > 
> > NameLast modified  Size  
> > Parent Directory -   
> > dists/  2022-05-14 11:06-   
> > 
> > What gives?
> 
> Your first problem might just be whatever name server you use, it might
> have been having problems when you tried aptitude, but not when you tried
> a browser.  I recently switched to using unbound for the first time, and
> I get that several times a day now.
> 
> deb.devuan.org is a DNS round robin, it'll hand out a different IP from
> our collection of package mirrors.  So the first thing you should do when
> telling us about problems with it is which IP you got out of it at the
> time.

Unfortunately, neither aptitude nor firefox told me the IP number they
  were using.
Maybe it would be useful if aptitude would do that on this kind of error.

-- hendrik
> 
> Also note the /DEBIAN/ part, most package mirrors rewrite URLs like that
> to point to Debians package mirrors.  So there might be some URL
> rewriting and redirection going on.
> 
> If you can tell me which IP it was, then I can investigate further.

What I did do when it happened was to use the browser
to go to debian's package pool, download the same verion of the same package,
and install it directly using dpkg.

I figured uudecode (the command I was looking for) wouldn't need to be changed 
for devuan.  And it wasn't in a tangle of dependencies, so in this instance, it 
worked.

-- hendrik

> 
> I wrote apt-panopticon to monitor and test lots of things about our
> package mirrors, useful for the first place to look.  Though I admit it's
> still a little buggy.
> 
> https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html
> http://veritas.devuan.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html
> https://borta.devuan.dev/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html
> 
> -- 
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> coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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Re: [DNG] Unable to access pool in repository

2022-07-16 Thread onefang
On 2022-07-16 08:21:13, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I tried installing sharutils using aptitude, and was unable to.
> aptitude told me:
> Temporary failure resolving 'deb.devuan.org'
> and later:
> E: Failed to fetch
>
> http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/s/sharutils/sharutils_4.15.2
>-5_amd64.deb: Temporary failure resolving 'deb.devuan.org'
> 
> In the browser, I had no problem at all reaching http://deb.devuan.org
> but http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ did not contain pool:
> 
> Index of /merged
> 
> NameLast modified  Size  
> Parent Directory -   
> dists/  2022-05-14 11:06-   
> 
> What gives?

Your first problem might just be whatever name server you use, it might
have been having problems when you tried aptitude, but not when you tried
a browser.  I recently switched to using unbound for the first time, and
I get that several times a day now.

deb.devuan.org is a DNS round robin, it'll hand out a different IP from
our collection of package mirrors.  So the first thing you should do when
telling us about problems with it is which IP you got out of it at the
time.

Also note the /DEBIAN/ part, most package mirrors rewrite URLs like that
to point to Debians package mirrors.  So there might be some URL
rewriting and redirection going on.

If you can tell me which IP it was, then I can investigate further.

I wrote apt-panopticon to monitor and test lots of things about our
package mirrors, useful for the first place to look.  Though I admit it's
still a little buggy.

https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html
http://veritas.devuan.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html
https://borta.devuan.dev/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html

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coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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[DNG] Unable to access pool in repository

2022-07-16 Thread Hendrik Boom
I tried installing sharutils using aptitude, and was unable to.
aptitude told me:
Temporary failure resolving 'deb.devuan.org'
and later:
E: Failed to fetch
   
http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/s/sharutils/sharutils_4.15.2
   -5_amd64.deb: Temporary failure resolving 'deb.devuan.org'

In the browser, I had no problem at all reaching http://deb.devuan.org
but http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ did not contain pool:

Index of /merged

NameLast modified  Size  
Parent Directory -   
dists/  2022-05-14 11:06-   

What gives?

-- hendrik
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