Re: [DNG] Uninstallable packages on ascii

2017-06-19 Thread Hleb Valoshka
On 6/19/17, Tom Cassidy  wrote:

> I'll try installing lightdm to see how that goes on Devuan compared to
> Ubuntu.

Devuan has lightdm from Debian, without any changes, but if you want
to use light-locker with it, then enable jessie-proposed repo.
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Re: [DNG] Uninstallable packages on ascii

2017-06-19 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 22:38:54 +1000
Tom Cassidy  wrote:

> FWIW, I've joined a Devuan machine to a Windows AD domain with
> samba/winbind and have no problems logging in with a domain user from
> slim when properly setup. I'll admit it's not as nice as lightdm in
> that it doesn't show a list of previous login names, but it is
> basically functional as a GUI login screen.

Wait until your password expires and you need to change it, there is
nothing in slim to do this.

It is ironic that the best display manager to use on a Unix AD domain
member is gdm3, the only problem is the rest of the rubbish that comes
with it (aka Gnome3) 

Rowland
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Re: [DNG] Uninstallable packages on ascii

2017-06-19 Thread Tom Cassidy
FWIW, I've joined a Devuan machine to a Windows AD domain with samba/winbind 
and have no problems logging in with a domain user from slim when properly 
setup. I'll admit it's not as nice as lightdm in that it doesn't show a list of 
previous login names, but it is basically functional as a GUI login screen.

I'll try installing lightdm to see how that goes on Devuan compared to Ubuntu.

Does anyone recommend other display managers on Devuan?

-- Tom

> On 19 Jun 2017, at 21:09, Rowland Penny  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 20:34:49 +1000
> Tom  wrote:
> 
>> Both slim and rsyslog are uninstallable on ascii.  Thankfully I have
>> rsyslog still installed from jessie, but I accidentally uninstalled
>> slim and now can't re-install it.  Wha'ts involved in updating package
>> dependencies to get these (and other packages) installable on ascii?
>> Does it require extensive packaging knowledge, or could this be
>> handled by someone without any prior packaging/development experience?
>> 
>> http://bugs.devuan.org//cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=72
>> 
>> -- Tom
> 
> I actually think it is a bonus that slim is not installable on ascii,
> Unless things have changed, it is a dead project, it is also about as
> much use as chocolate fire guard if you need to connect to a Samba AD
> domain. One of the first things I do after installing Devuan is
> replace slim with lightdm. You are quite at liberty to use slim if you
> like, but I will never use it ;-) 
> 
> Rowland
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Re: [DNG] Uninstallable packages on ascii

2017-06-19 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 08:34:49PM +1000, Tom wrote:
> Both slim and rsyslog are uninstallable on ascii.  Thankfully I have
> rsyslog still installed from jessie, but I accidentally uninstalled slim
> and now can't re-install it.  Wha'ts involved in updating package
> dependencies to get these (and other packages) installable on ascii?  Does
> it require extensive packaging knowledge, or could this be handled by
> someone without any prior packaging/development experience?
> 
> http://bugs.devuan.org//cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=72
> 

I am rebuilding rsyslog for ascii. This should allow ascii to become
installable from scratch. The package should be available shortly. I
will announce it here.

It is not just a matter of stripping deps, but of being sure that you
are not throwing the baby alongside with dirty water. And we can't
fail on a package like rsyslog.

My2Cents

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Uninstallable packages on ascii

2017-06-19 Thread Rowland Penny
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 20:34:49 +1000
Tom  wrote:

> Both slim and rsyslog are uninstallable on ascii.  Thankfully I have
> rsyslog still installed from jessie, but I accidentally uninstalled
> slim and now can't re-install it.  Wha'ts involved in updating package
> dependencies to get these (and other packages) installable on ascii?
> Does it require extensive packaging knowledge, or could this be
> handled by someone without any prior packaging/development experience?
> 
> http://bugs.devuan.org//cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=72
> 
> -- Tom

I actually think it is a bonus that slim is not installable on ascii,
Unless things have changed, it is a dead project, it is also about as
much use as chocolate fire guard if you need to connect to a Samba AD
domain. One of the first things I do after installing Devuan is
replace slim with lightdm. You are quite at liberty to use slim if you
like, but I will never use it ;-) 

Rowland
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