Re: [DNG] We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid of systemd
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018, Steve Litt wrote: > > > 1) At $14.50/month (Swiss Franc == $), it's 3 times the price of > > > many American VM vendors. > > > > > > 2) Unlike American vendors, their Terms of Service contain no > > >Indemnification clause, no heads-I-win-tails-you-lose, no book > > >length essays. This fact alone can triple the value of a VM. > > > > 3) I would rather have my not so sensitive data stored at a Swiss > > company than at an American one. > > Is there a way to rent and administer one of their VMs anonymously? I am sure you can ask them, it can be an interesting feature request and they may simply make it available as an option (Tor/I2P access) Thanks Lars for spotting Devuanhosting by Ungleich here! I confirm these people are in touch with Devuan developers and willing to help. Their success is also our success so I encourage everyone to consider them as a hosting solution. We are preparing for a Devuan conference in Amsterdam in November (soon to be announced) and that will also be an occasion to meet the people running this hosting in person. Here a great blogpost by Nico who is leading their team and may be also reading here on DNG https://blog.ungleich.ch/en-us/cms/blog/2017/12/10/the-importance-of-devuan/ ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid of systemd
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 18:41:52 +0200 Harald Arnesen wrote: > Steve Litt [2018-08-16 17:27]: > > > 1) At $14.50/month (Swiss Franc == $), it's 3 times the price of > > many American VM vendors. > > > > 2) Unlike American vendors, their Terms of Service contain no > >Indemnification clause, no heads-I-win-tails-you-lose, no book > >length essays. This fact alone can triple the value of a VM. > > 3) I would rather have my not so sensitive data stored at a Swiss > company than at an American one. Is there a way to rent and administer one of their VMs anonymously? SteveT Steve Litt September 2018 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid of systemd
Steve Litt [2018-08-16 17:27]: > 1) At $14.50/month (Swiss Franc == $), it's 3 times the price of many >American VM vendors. > > 2) Unlike American vendors, their Terms of Service contain no >Indemnification clause, no heads-I-win-tails-you-lose, no book >length essays. This fact alone can triple the value of a VM. 3) I would rather have my not so sensitive data stored at a Swiss company than at an American one. -- Hilsen Harald ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid of systemd
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 12:50:53 +0300 Lars Noodén wrote: > There seems to now be a Swiss hosting provider specializing in Devuan > hosting: > > "We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid > of systemd." > ... > "thanks to the developers of Devuan." > > https://devuanhosting.com/en-us/cms/ > > It is one of their featured selling points. > > /Lars A couple points: 1) At $14.50/month (Swiss Franc == $), it's 3 times the price of many American VM vendors. 2) Unlike American vendors, their Terms of Service contain no Indemnification clause, no heads-I-win-tails-you-lose, no book length essays. This fact alone can triple the value of a VM. By the way, I'm pretty sure that besides being systemd free, their services are run by electricity produced by rivers or waterfalls. No coal, no uranium. I might get one of these things. SteveT ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid of systemd
There seems to now be a Swiss hosting provider specializing in Devuan hosting: "We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid of systemd." ... "thanks to the developers of Devuan." https://devuanhosting.com/en-us/cms/ It is one of their featured selling points. /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng