Re: [DNG] googling devuan ascii leads to spam sites
spam, ads and google: I have only seen ADs from Gmail [but I figured out how too avoid them]. I never get SPAM email. I don't use google search [I use duckduckgo.com with deterministic searches; no history taint]. I use a combination of Ublock Origin [Firefox addon] and a large /etc/hosts file [rarely see Adverts]. Take control! jacksprat ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] googling devuan ascii leads to spam sites
On 01/20/2018 09:31 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I googles "devuan ascii" today and in the top few finds there were three > spam sites -- sites which either jut advertised expensive junk, or else > pretended to be my ISP doing a survey and as a reward offering > expensive junk such as (probably fake) testosterone supplements. > > At this point the power went out, so I didn't get to see if there were > more. > > The brief excerpts Google presented before I clicked on links were > legitimate-looking quotes from Devuan sites, listing things like the > platforms devuan runs on and so forth. > > Somehow the spammers have manages to out-SEO the legitimate Devuan > sites. It's not making it easy for newcomers to find us. > > Ugly. The problem is going to be dreadfully hard to reproduce and harder to report even if it can be reproduced. The reason for the difficulty in reproducibility is that the main search engines customize the search results for each perceived user individually based on a lot of factors including past searches. You yourself will get vastly different results from Google if you tell it to pretend to ignore your search history, as well as different results if you use a clean machine with a fresh account coming from another IP number. The latter is the closest you might get to seeing the generic search results for people in your country. There are some hoops Google wants site maintainers to hop through: https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/183668?hl=en As far as delisting spam goes, I have no clue to how to report it or if they even care as long as ads are served. It's been a very, very long time since there was even an e-mail address for feedback there. /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] googling devuan ascii leads to spam sites
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 04:24:44PM -0500, Clarke Sideroad wrote: [cut] > > I pull up a solid 2 pages of legitimate links when I Google "devuan ascii" > with no quotes. > I hate to say this, but this makes me think that perhaps your browser may > not be in the "as delivered" condition. > Same over here. I have checked the first 40 google results for "Devuan Ascii", and they are all relevant to Devuan. on the 5th page you start having suff about Debian and from Debian User Forum, but still, relevant to Devuan Ascii. My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] googling devuan ascii leads to spam sites
On 2018-01-20 02:31 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I googles "devuan ascii" today and in the top few finds there were three spam sites -- sites which either jut advertised expensive junk, or else pretended to be my ISP doing a survey and as a reward offering expensive junk such as (probably fake) testosterone supplements. At this point the power went out, so I didn't get to see if there were more. The brief excerpts Google presented before I clicked on links were legitimate-looking quotes from Devuan sites, listing things like the platforms devuan runs on and so forth. Somehow the spammers have manages to out-SEO the legitimate Devuan sites. It's not making it easy for newcomers to find us. Ugly. I pull up a solid 2 pages of legitimate links when I Google "devuan ascii" with no quotes. I hate to say this, but this makes me think that perhaps your browser may not be in the "as delivered" condition. Clarke ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] googling devuan ascii leads to spam sites
On 2018-01-20 13:31, Hendrik Boom wrote: I googles "devuan ascii" today and in the top few finds there were three spam sites -- sites which either jut advertised expensive junk, or else pretended to be my ISP doing a survey and as a reward offering expensive junk such as (probably fake) testosterone supplements. At this point the power went out, so I didn't get to see if there were more. The brief excerpts Google presented before I clicked on links were legitimate-looking quotes from Devuan sites, listing things like the platforms devuan runs on and so forth. Somehow the spammers have manages to out-SEO the legitimate Devuan sites. It's not making it easy for newcomers to find us. Ugly. Using startpage and with heavily filtered content, I'm not seeing any of that here. The problem I DO see is that the first link on the page points to "Upgrading Devuan Jessie to Ascii" on talk.devuan.org which is archived for historical purposes but likely to contain outdated information. We have been trying to gain access to this site for months in order to post appropriate cautions but no joy. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] googling devuan ascii leads to spam sites
Hendrik Boom wrote on 20.01.2018 20:31: > I googles "devuan ascii" today and in the top few finds there were three > spam sites -- sites which either jut advertised expensive junk, or else > pretended to be my ISP doing a survey and as a reward offering > expensive junk such as (probably fake) testosterone supplements. > > At this point the power went out, so I didn't get to see if there were > more. > > The brief excerpts Google presented before I clicked on links were > legitimate-looking quotes from Devuan sites, listing things like the > platforms devuan runs on and so forth. > > Somehow the spammers have manages to out-SEO the legitimate Devuan > sites. It's not making it easy for newcomers to find us. > > Ugly. Interesting. Motivated by your message I searched the web for devuan ascii (without quotes!), using Ecosia, DuckDuckGo, bing, StartPage, Google (yuck!) and, what the heck, even Yahoo, and in all cases the top hits were more or less relevant to Devuan. A lot of those referred to instructions on how to upgrade from jessie to ASCII. The results may be skewed though, as I probably get .de versions of the pages, but curious nonetheless. Regards Urban -- -- Sapere aude! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] googling devuan ascii leads to spam sites
I googles "devuan ascii" today and in the top few finds there were three spam sites -- sites which either jut advertised expensive junk, or else pretended to be my ISP doing a survey and as a reward offering expensive junk such as (probably fake) testosterone supplements. At this point the power went out, so I didn't get to see if there were more. The brief excerpts Google presented before I clicked on links were legitimate-looking quotes from Devuan sites, listing things like the platforms devuan runs on and so forth. Somehow the spammers have manages to out-SEO the legitimate Devuan sites. It's not making it easy for newcomers to find us. Ugly. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
