Re: [DNG] mutt attachment problem
From: "dng" ; Sent: Monday, August 22, 2022 4:56:08 PM Antony Stone wrote: > Haines Brown wrote: > > The size of the zip file is 164 Mb [...] > Perhaps some kind souls on the list might suggest possible ways to > send large binary files? That's the real problem and it needs a real > solution. > > Bob A site that can transfer very large files, allegedly securely, is: https://wormhole.app/ For files up to 5Gb in size, the files are stored on a server for a maximum of 24 hours. HTH, Xenguy ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mutt attachment problem
Hi Haines, On Mon, 2022-08-22 at 14:56 -0600, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: > Antony Stone wrote: > > Haines Brown wrote: > > > The size of the zip file is 164 Mb > > > > 164MB! OMG! Repeat after me. "SMTP is not a file transport > protocol." The likelihood of being able to send a 164MB email > message from one random system on the net to another random system on > the net today is vanishingly small. The default for most popular > mail transport agents even today is 10MB max in size. Though most > sites have increased that to at least 50MB and some to 100MB due to > people trying to send photos through email. But 164MB? I don't know > of any site that allows such a large single email. Gmail limits > message size to 25MB > https://support.google.com/a/answer/1366776?hl=en. > > Since email is not a file transport protocol I suggest using a > different method to transfer those files. I am worthless for > suggesting a large binary file drop method since I have my own web > site and so I always use it for these things. I just copy it there > and pass along a URL. But I know that not everyone maintains their > own servers and associated web sites. > > Perhaps some kind souls on the list might suggest possible ways to > send large binary files? That's the real problem and it needs > a real solution. > If you have a Google account then you /could/ just use Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/drive/my-drive Google Drive has a 15GB capacity free tier, plenty for what you need, if you haven't filled it already. Create a shared folder on your Google Drive. Copy and paste the zip file to it. Allow the recipient viewer access to the shared folder (you can allow anyone or be specific to the recipient(s)). Then just send then a link to the file, they can then just click on the link and the file will download. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mutt attachment problem
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 02:56:08PM -0600, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: > 164MB! OMG! Repeat after me. "SMTP is not a file transport > protocol." The likelihood of being able to send a 164MB email message > from one random system on the net to another random system on the net > today is vanishingly small. The default for most popular mail > transport agents even today is 10MB max in size. Though most sites > have increased that to at least 50MB and some to 100MB due to people > trying to send photos through email. But 164MB? I don't know of any > site that allows such a large single email. Gmail limits message size > to 25MB https://support.google.com/a/answer/1366776?hl=en. > > Since email is not a file transport protocol I suggest using a > different method to transfer those files. I am worthless for > suggesting a large binary file drop method since I have my own web > site and so I always use it for these things. I just copy it there > and pass along a URL. But I know that not everyone maintains their > own servers and associated web sites. > > Perhaps some kind souls on the list might suggest possible ways to > send large binary files? That's the real problem and it needs a real > solution. There are various services for sending large files. Dropbox and Wetransfer are the big ones, but increasingly complicated to use. I use the following web service. https://send.vis.ee/ The author also provides a CLI utility. I can't comment on the security of these methods. -- Joel Roth ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mutt attachment problem
Antony Stone wrote: > Haines Brown wrote: > > The size of the zip file is 164 Mb > > Just in case it's actually your mail service provider responding to your mail > client trying to send such a large message, try the same thing but with a > small zip file (such as 2Mb) to see whether that nakes the difference. 164MB! OMG! Repeat after me. "SMTP is not a file transport protocol." The likelihood of being able to send a 164MB email message from one random system on the net to another random system on the net today is vanishingly small. The default for most popular mail transport agents even today is 10MB max in size. Though most sites have increased that to at least 50MB and some to 100MB due to people trying to send photos through email. But 164MB? I don't know of any site that allows such a large single email. Gmail limits message size to 25MB https://support.google.com/a/answer/1366776?hl=en. Since email is not a file transport protocol I suggest using a different method to transfer those files. I am worthless for suggesting a large binary file drop method since I have my own web site and so I always use it for these things. I just copy it there and pass along a URL. But I know that not everyone maintains their own servers and associated web sites. Perhaps some kind souls on the list might suggest possible ways to send large binary files? That's the real problem and it needs a real solution. Bob signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] mutt attachment problem
On Monday 22 August 2022 at 18:10:53, Haines Brown wrote: > I usually have no problem sending attachments with mutt. But now I > want to send a directory that holds files: > > ./patthToDirectory/directory > > This does not work because I gather attachements must be > single files. Is not a directory a single file?. Highly technically, yes, a directory is a single file, however it is a file containing filenames and links to inodes, which are the locations on disk of the data in those files. So, although you might find some way of sending the file "." to someone, they would nto receive the content of the files - at best, they would receive a list of the names, and pointers to where they reside on the file system in your computer. > So I zipped the directory. But when I try to attach it I get the error Please show us exactly how you attached it. > "Error sending message, child exited 1 ()" Is that really it - "Error sending message"? No further information about what the error is? > My fishing on line did not find a solution. What is this "child"? Is > it the attachment process? I do not know mutt well enough to speculate on an answer to that. > The size of the zip file is 164 Mb Just in case it's actually your mail service provider responding to your mail client trying to send such a large message, try the same thing but with a small zip file (such as 2Mb) to see whether that nakes the difference. Antony. -- "Tannenbaumschmuck" is a perfectly reasonable German word meaning Christmas tree decorations, and is not a quote from Linus Torvalds. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] mutt attachment problem
I usually have no problem sending attachments with mutt. But now I want to send a directory that holds files: ./patthToDirectory/directory This does not work because I gather attachements must be single files. Is not a directory a single file?. So I zipped the directory. But when I try to attach it I get the error "Error sending message, child exited 1 ()" My fishing on line did not find a solution. What is this "child"? Is it the attachment process? My version of mutt is 2.2.6-1 The size of the zip file is 164 Mb The file has a .zip extension. The path is no longer than usual Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
