Re: [DNG] online purchasing (dunno - - - maybe OT)
o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > I made a purchase from an online store - - - its a smaller entity that > covers some interesting niches - - therefore the order. > > In doing the purchase - - - noticed, using uBlockOrigin and > PrivacyBadger, that paypal 'only' has some 9 domains linked into the > transaction. Hmmm - - - that's not all - - - that's what PrivacyBadger > was picking up - - - uBlockOrigin noted that there were some 15 > domains of which it blocked some 4. Still linked were crackbook and a > bunch of ms googly's garbage. > > So I called the company to tell them that I found this concerning. > > I asked the person that I was talking to if they were into internet > privacy and security - - - very much so was the answer. So I asked him > why he needed all these domains connected. The long and short of it > was that he got quite huffy and asked me to cancel my order (and > without saying so) get lost. It is more important to him that everyone > and his dog know about his transactions that it is for him to make > transactions. I suspect it’s more a case of two things : They are using a packaged system that doesn’t make it easy to do things properly - only how the system designer things they should be done. and/or They get a lot of their business via those routes so there’s a potential financial hit if they turn off the tracking. Recently I had a case where I went to an organisation’s web site and got (IIRC) a non-complaint cookie notice. IIRC it was the sort that basically said “we use cookies” rather than “can we use cookies”. When I contacted them, they were grateful I’d done so - they’d had some work done, and because everyone internally used the site all the time, they never saw what a visitor with a “clean” browser would see. It got fixed. > I do wish there were a way of warning other customers - - - - his > website is likely a magnet for web bottom feeders and he doesn't think > its worth things about. No easy way to tell other (potential) customers. But for the business, you didn’t say what country they are in. Both Germany and France have found the use of certain Google “services” breach GDPR. Perhaps report the site for that ? I think this is going to get “interesting” for site owners ;-) https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/31/website_fine_google_fonts_gdpr/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/10/google_analytics_gdpr_breach/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/13/google_analytics_gdpr/ Simon ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] online purchasing (dunno - - - maybe OT)
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 10:44 AM Ken Dibble wrote: > > On 3/9/22 11:11, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > Greetings > > > > Wondering what others are noticing. > > > > I made a purchase from an online store - - - its a smaller entity that > > covers some interesting niches - - therefore the order. > > > > In doing the purchase - - - noticed, using uBlockOrigin and > > PrivacyBadger, that paypal 'only' has some 9 domains linked into the > > transaction. Hmmm - - - that's not all - - - that's what PrivacyBadger > > was picking up - - - uBlockOrigin noted that there were some 15 > > domains of which it blocked some 4. Still linked were crackbook and a > > bunch of ms googly's garbage. > > > > So I called the company to tell them that I found this concerning. > > > > I asked the person that I was talking to if they were into internet > > privacy and security - - - very much so was the answer. So I asked him > > why he needed all these domains connected. The long and short of it > > was that he got quite huffy and asked me to cancel my order (and > > without saying so) get lost. It is more important to him that everyone > > and his dog know about his transactions that it is for him to make > > transactions. > > > > I do wish there were a way of warning other customers - - - - his > > website is likely a magnet for web bottom feeders and he doesn't think > > its worth things about. > > > > Oh well - - - for me - - > > - once and not again. > > > > Its bloody hard not to purchase online - - - what are any of you > > seeing, think about this, doing about this? > > > > What can be done to minimize the negative effects of dealing with this > > kind of website? > > > > Hopefully not just adjudged as noise! > > > > TIA > > ___ > > Dng mailing list > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > I am not sure what you mean by "domains linked in". For giggles I grabbed the list from uBlockOrigin right here reading gmail's stuff: all images 3rd-party inline scripts 1st-party scripts 3rd-party scripts 3rd-party frames google.com aa.google.com apis.google.com clients2.google.com addons-pa.clients6.google.com appsgrowthpromo-pa.clients6.google.com people-pa.clients6.google.com signaler-pa.clients6.google.com contacts.google.com mail.google.com mail-ads.google.com ogs.google.com googleusercontent.com ci3.googleusercontent.com ci4.googleusercontent.com ci5.googleusercontent.com ci6.googleusercontent.com lh3.googleusercontent.com gstatic.com fonts.gstatic.com ssl.gstatic.com www.gstatic.com Each line is another domain. Regards ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] online purchasing (dunno - - - maybe OT)
On 3/9/22 11:11, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: Greetings Wondering what others are noticing. I made a purchase from an online store - - - its a smaller entity that covers some interesting niches - - therefore the order. In doing the purchase - - - noticed, using uBlockOrigin and PrivacyBadger, that paypal 'only' has some 9 domains linked into the transaction. Hmmm - - - that's not all - - - that's what PrivacyBadger was picking up - - - uBlockOrigin noted that there were some 15 domains of which it blocked some 4. Still linked were crackbook and a bunch of ms googly's garbage. So I called the company to tell them that I found this concerning. I asked the person that I was talking to if they were into internet privacy and security - - - very much so was the answer. So I asked him why he needed all these domains connected. The long and short of it was that he got quite huffy and asked me to cancel my order (and without saying so) get lost. It is more important to him that everyone and his dog know about his transactions that it is for him to make transactions. I do wish there were a way of warning other customers - - - - his website is likely a magnet for web bottom feeders and he doesn't think its worth things about. Oh well - - - for me - - - once and not again. Its bloody hard not to purchase online - - - what are any of you seeing, think about this, doing about this? What can be done to minimize the negative effects of dealing with this kind of website? Hopefully not just adjudged as noise! TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng I am not sure what you mean by "domains linked in". Two of the things I am using for privacy are the Brave browser and dnsmasq with a continually updated list of of known domains of trackers and such. The lists are updated on my schedule but do require a little tweaking by the download script because of non-compliant host and domain naming (or ignoring the errors generated by dnsmasq). Mar 7 07:28:22 frank dnsmasq[32478]: read /etc/blacklist/hosts_blacklist - 1435580 addresses Regards, Ken ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] online purchasing (dunno - - - maybe OT)
Greetings Wondering what others are noticing. I made a purchase from an online store - - - its a smaller entity that covers some interesting niches - - therefore the order. In doing the purchase - - - noticed, using uBlockOrigin and PrivacyBadger, that paypal 'only' has some 9 domains linked into the transaction. Hmmm - - - that's not all - - - that's what PrivacyBadger was picking up - - - uBlockOrigin noted that there were some 15 domains of which it blocked some 4. Still linked were crackbook and a bunch of ms googly's garbage. So I called the company to tell them that I found this concerning. I asked the person that I was talking to if they were into internet privacy and security - - - very much so was the answer. So I asked him why he needed all these domains connected. The long and short of it was that he got quite huffy and asked me to cancel my order (and without saying so) get lost. It is more important to him that everyone and his dog know about his transactions that it is for him to make transactions. I do wish there were a way of warning other customers - - - - his website is likely a magnet for web bottom feeders and he doesn't think its worth things about. Oh well - - - for me - - - once and not again. Its bloody hard not to purchase online - - - what are any of you seeing, think about this, doing about this? What can be done to minimize the negative effects of dealing with this kind of website? Hopefully not just adjudged as noise! TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
