Re: [DNG] procps
On Tue, Apr 03, 2018 at 10:10:40AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Hi, > > for version 2:3.3.12-3 of procps, Ivan J. did a fix in devuan to not > depend to libsystemd. Now, we got the updated version 2:3.3.12-4 from > debian and there is a new version 2:3.3.13-1 in queue. When updating the > system with 2:3.3.12-4 coming from devuan, it pull in all systemd > dependencies. > > Could you please fix that again? > I might have missed something, but if you are using only Devuan repos you won't get updates of forked packages from debian. If a package is forked by Devuan, you are guaranteed to always get the Devuan version (if you use only devuan repos). I must admit I have not read thre full thread though, so I might be missing something. HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] procps
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, for version 2:3.3.12-3 of procps, Ivan J. did a fix in devuan to not depend to libsystemd. Now, we got the updated version 2:3.3.12-4 from debian and there is a new version 2:3.3.13-1 in queue. When updating the system with 2:3.3.12-4 coming from devuan, it pull in all systemd dependencies. Could you please fix that again? Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Charset: ISO-8859-1 iQGzBAEBCgAdFiEEMWF28vh4/UMJJLQEpnwKsYAZ9qwFAlrDRRAACgkQpnwKsYAZ 9qy5+QwAgrxcdGDpvc2r2+zge3NObCB6WGbt2rL661J5xIAdFtWxClQg1p5Kq/Ca DTzKsnIu84x4mtiNEGNPryb3QJ2MF7AWrjXPBFlJB2oINZvjZ6sgIymFauQNSnPX 7vlEUOe4UTvbBu/sR6LQaGq91gdWO5uIXeMs/0kjnghLVVhFa6wnfLGeG5JT1Ny1 GTMCbzhd5W/7wB5iivnwg/7sUL8u/BFHCgWq6N/LHPx3JYEIWJbNC+8KMLzNiQ4M aXvzUuFlS6cAyLTo2xxCyCXPVE8wPAwO2dS7j7F6LajBJji7EpPKoCeYfziyHSm/ 2+fBdFXdzdqMrqZkrOHWbEE71mapDxXIzl+7jLFHBoJLJ9xakX20n3kxwo7xK/+j y68MlyryocEsSjUGZdxc2x1cdoRV0vPgFumzoqM7TunUrwYcCZKkOzqw9UxfMTny Npi/yzQM4eb6gfm55R5XOQ8jvnKY5bFT7O6fg6ZsyomGW2NS7drrHXiO25dkE0Rj KTiCcBom =7Zw7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] procps
On Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 01:59:32PM +0300, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: > On 4 Jul 2015 13:15, "Didier Kryn" wrote: > Yes indeed. Soon it is going to be systemd/linux not gnu/linux LOL! Actually, I'm reading this thread, and wondering whether I should snort with laughter, or cry. I want to do a bit of both. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] procps
On Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 10:40:42AM +0200, Fred DC wrote: > So it is: libprocps4 depends on libsystemd0 To clarify: That's a package dependency. That's procps being built with systemd support. It's not procps hard-depending on systemd. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] procps
On Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 12:14:51PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 04/07/2015 11:10, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > >To me it seems that libsystemd0 for some developers is similar to libc > > That's how Systemd is going pretty fast to become SystemdOS. > Next step is to merge libc into libsystemd0. I think distros > enforcing it should assume this fact by putting the word "Systemd" > in their name. For that to e fully effective, they'll have to corrupt musl as well. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] procps
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 13:59:32 +0300 Aldemir Akpinar wrote: > Soon it is going to be systemd/linux not gnu/linux Or it is going to be systemd/linux AND gnu/linux, going their separate ways. Cheers, Ron. -- Only after the last river has been poisoned, Only after the last tree has been cut down, Only after the last fish has been caught, Only then will you find out that money Cannot Be Eaten. -- Cree Prophecy -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] procps
On 4 Jul 2015 13:15, "Didier Kryn" wrote: > > Le 04/07/2015 11:10, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : >> >> To me it seems that libsystemd0 for some developers is similar to libc > > > That's how Systemd is going pretty fast to become SystemdOS. Next step is to merge libc into libsystemd0. I think distros enforcing it should assume this fact by putting the word "Systemd" in their name. > > Didier > Yes indeed. Soon it is going to be systemd/linux not gnu/linux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] procps
Le 04/07/2015 11:10, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : To me it seems that libsystemd0 for some developers is similar to libc That's how Systemd is going pretty fast to become SystemdOS. Next step is to merge libc into libsystemd0. I think distros enforcing it should assume this fact by putting the word "Systemd" in their name. Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] procps
Am Samstag, 4. Juli 2015, 10:40:42 schrieb Fred DC: > On 04/07/2015 10:26, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > So it seems this is not a *direct* dependency. It may be that some of > > the > > dependencies depend on libsystemd0. > > So it is: libprocps4 depends on libsystemd0 *yikes*, I missed this one, as I checked some of the other dependencies. I bet there is a command to recursively print dependencies, well, yes: debtree. To me it seems that libsystemd0 for some developers is similar to libc and I don't think that approbiate. I dislike deep dependencies from high-level stuff like GNOME parts towards lowlevel stuff like systemd. KDE/Plasma developers worked at modularizing KDE / Plasma and untangling dependencies in it for years now. systemd developers and developers relying on systemd functionality seem to do it the other way around creating a huge monolithic block between kernel, lowlevel system software and highlevel software. But, well, okay, this then would be another package to fork. -- Martin ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] procps
On 04/07/2015 10:26, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > So it seems this is not a *direct* dependency. It may be that some of the > dependencies depend on libsystemd0. > So it is: libprocps4 depends on libsystemd0 Fred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] procps
On Friday 03 July 2015 20:40:13 Mitt wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm using unstable (Ceres), for quite some time now libprocps4 and thus > procps depend on libsystemd0. On stable (Jessie) there is libprocps3 > which does not depend on it. I cannot confirm this: merkaba:~> apt-cache show procps Package: procps Version: 2:3.3.10-2 Installed-Size: 647 Maintainer: Craig Small Architecture: amd64 Provides: watch Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15), libncurses5 (>= 5.5-5~), libncursesw5 (>= 5.6+20070908), libprocps4, libtinfo5, lsb-base (>= 3.0-10), initscripts […] So it seems this is not a *direct* dependency. It may be that some of the dependencies depend on libsystemd0. -- Martin ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] procps
On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 08:40:13PM +0300, Mitt wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm using unstable (Ceres), for quite some time now libprocps4 and thus > procps depend on libsystemd0. On stable (Jessie) there is libprocps3 which > does not depend on it. > > Mitt > ___ So, we need to fork also procps. -- Franco (nextime) Lanza Lonate Pozzolo (VA) - Italy SIP://c...@casa.nexlab.it web: http://www.nexlab.net NO TCPA: http://www.no1984.org you can download my public key at: http://danex.nexlab.it/nextime.asc || Key Servers Key ID = D6132D50 Key fingerprint = 66ED 5211 9D59 DA53 1DF7 4189 DFED F580 D613 2D50 --- echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D212153574F444E49572045535520454D20454B414D204F54204847554F4E452059415020544F4E4E4143205345544147204C4C4942snlbxq | dc --- signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] procps
Hi everyone, I'm using unstable (Ceres), for quite some time now libprocps4 and thus procps depend on libsystemd0. On stable (Jessie) there is libprocps3 which does not depend on it. Mitt ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
