Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-15 Thread karl
o1bigtenor:
...
> I'm told to:
> 
> rebuild the kernel with CONFIG_NOUVEAU_DEBUG_PUSH=y
...

 That config is used in:
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/include/nvif/push.h

its latest commit is d502297008142645edf5c791af424ed321e5da84
from 2021-01-19, so you need kernel v5.11-rc6 or later. So
get a suffiently new kernel and do as they say.

Regards,
/Karl Hammar

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[DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-14 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
Greetings

When I put this system together ( a LONG time ago) nvidia was not
quite the pariah it has become in the open source community. So I'm
stuck with nouveau for drivers (its a long explanation but trust me
I'm STUCK there!).

Nouveau is really not as wonderful as it purports to be and I would
love nothing better than to move to a Radeon solution except changing
the whole system for that is just a little cost prohibitive and then
newer gpus are mostly limited to at best 4 outputs and I have 5. Don't
really want to buy 2 cards either as that makes things just too bloody
expensive. So a new system is on hold until this one shows definite
signs of imminent demise or somebody drops a bunch of $$$ into my
pocket (fat chance of that!!).

So I have filed a bug report over at nouveau's system and they are
telling me to do something that I just can't find any information on
the web as a how to. Maybe someone here knows this area
(kernel/gpu/drm/whatever other software they're dragging in!) and
could advise.

I'm told to:

rebuild the kernel with CONFIG_NOUVEAU_DEBUG_PUSH=y

followed by:

boot the machine with drm.debug=0x16 log_bug_len=50m nouveau.debug=disp=trace

(the second command is maybe covered here:
https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/kernel-boot-parameter-edit/
but if there is a better/easier way please advise!!)

Is there anyone who can help?

(I really want to use that 4k monitor - - - I've been looking at it
for about 8 months now and when I connect it well - - - I get 2 to 16
hours of uptime and then its time to reboot - - - a royal pita()
at best)

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Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-08 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 10:22 PM Olaf Meeuwissen
 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> o1bigtenor via Dng  writes:
>
> > On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 6:14 AM wirelessduck--- via Dng
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7 Jan 2022, at 22:02, o1bigtenor via Dng  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Greetings
> >>>
> >>> Basic question is: what happened?
> >>>
> >>> I wanted to update a beowulf system.
> >>> So did the apt update, apt upgrade, apt dist-upgrade
> >>> after changing the references in /etc/apt/sources.list
> >>> from beowulf to chimaera.
> >>>
> >>> After reboot - - - well - - - screen says devuan but
> >>> uname -r is 4.19.xx and not 5.10.xx
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas as to how I update the kernel?
> >>
> >> Do you have the linux-image-amd64 package installed? This is the
> >> meta-package that depends on the latest Linux kernel package for the
> >> currently installed release; 4.19 for beowulf and 5.10 for
> >> chimaera. Without this package there is nothing to tell APT to
> >> install the newer kernel package on dist-upgrade.
> >>
> >> https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?cpackage
> >
> > No - - - dunno how but all that was installed was a kernel.
>
> What probably happened is that you selected the versioned kernel in the
> devuan-installer when you first installed that beowulf system.  The
> installer gives you a choice between a versioned kernel and one that
> tracks the latest version.
>
> I don't remember if that choice is available in the default install or
> only in the expert install, though.
>
I was taught by a now deceased very long time *nix user to use a
distributed partition system doing a system install. (Means I have
partitions for root, var, usr, usr-local,swap and home.) This means
that most often I have to use 'expert' install even though I'm no bloody
expert. It is very likely that when I chose expert install that it was
chosen for me to use a versioned kernel. Not recognizing that is
very much a function of me using expert tools where I understand
a very small part of what I'm actually doing.

Thanking you very much for your assistance and also the adding
to my understanding!!

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Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi,

o1bigtenor via Dng  writes:

> On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 6:14 AM wirelessduck--- via Dng
>  wrote:
>>
>> On 7 Jan 2022, at 22:02, o1bigtenor via Dng  wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings
>>>
>>> Basic question is: what happened?
>>>
>>> I wanted to update a beowulf system.
>>> So did the apt update, apt upgrade, apt dist-upgrade
>>> after changing the references in /etc/apt/sources.list
>>> from beowulf to chimaera.
>>>
>>> After reboot - - - well - - - screen says devuan but
>>> uname -r is 4.19.xx and not 5.10.xx
>>>
>>> Any ideas as to how I update the kernel?
>>
>> Do you have the linux-image-amd64 package installed? This is the
>> meta-package that depends on the latest Linux kernel package for the
>> currently installed release; 4.19 for beowulf and 5.10 for
>> chimaera. Without this package there is nothing to tell APT to
>> install the newer kernel package on dist-upgrade.
>>
>> https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package=linux-image-amd64=submit
>
> No - - - dunno how but all that was installed was a kernel.

What probably happened is that you selected the versioned kernel in the
devuan-installer when you first installed that beowulf system.  The
installer gives you a choice between a versioned kernel and one that
tracks the latest version.

I don't remember if that choice is available in the default install or
only in the expert install, though.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi,

o1bigtenor via Dng  writes:

> Greetings
>
> Basic question is: what happened?
>
> I wanted to update a beowulf system.
> So did the apt update, apt upgrade, apt dist-upgrade
> after changing the references in /etc/apt/sources.list
> from beowulf to chimaera.
>
> After reboot - - - well - - - screen says devuan but
> uname -r is 4.19.xx and not 5.10.xx
>
> Any ideas as to how I update the kernel?

Do you by any chance have only a versioned kernel image package
installed?  Something like linux-image-4.19.xx-y-amd64.

If so, you want to install linux-image-amd64 to keep getting the latest
version.

Adjust for your architecture if necessary.

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Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 6:14 AM wirelessduck--- via Dng
 wrote:
>
>
>
> On 7 Jan 2022, at 22:02, o1bigtenor via Dng  wrote:
>
> Greetings
>
> Basic question is: what happened?
>
> I wanted to update a beowulf system.
> So did the apt update, apt upgrade, apt dist-upgrade
> after changing the references in /etc/apt/sources.list
> from beowulf to chimaera.
>
> After reboot - - - well - - - screen says devuan but
> uname -r is 4.19.xx and not 5.10.xx
>
> Any ideas as to how I update the kernel?
>
> TIA
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> Do you have the linux-image-amd64 package installed? This is the meta-package 
> that depends on the latest Linux kernel package for the currently installed 
> release; 4.19 for beowulf and 5.10 for chimaera. Without this package there 
> is nothing to tell APT to install the newer kernel package on dist-upgrade.
>
> https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package=linux-image-amd64=submit

No - - - dunno how but all that was installed was a kernel.

Thanks for the tip!

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Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 5:14 AM Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng
 wrote:
>
> Anno domini 2022 Fri, 7 Jan 05:01:46 -0600
>  o1bigtenor via Dng scripsit:
> > Greetings
> >
> > Basic question is: what happened?
> >
> > I wanted to update a beowulf system.
> > So did the apt update, apt upgrade, apt dist-upgrade
> > after changing the references in /etc/apt/sources.list
> > from beowulf to chimaera.
> >
> > After reboot - - - well - - - screen says devuan but
> > uname -r is 4.19.xx and not 5.10.xx
> >
> > Any ideas as to how I update the kernel?
>
> Most likely you have 2 kernels installed, but GRUB loads the old one. Check 
> that with
> $ dpkg -l|grep linux-image
>

Checked that - - - thanks - - - - not the case.
There was only the 4.19.xxx kernel listed.

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Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng


> On 7 Jan 2022, at 22:02, o1bigtenor via Dng  wrote:
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Basic question is: what happened?
> 
> I wanted to update a beowulf system.
> So did the apt update, apt upgrade, apt dist-upgrade
> after changing the references in /etc/apt/sources.list
> from beowulf to chimaera.
> 
> After reboot - - - well - - - screen says devuan but
> uname -r is 4.19.xx and not 5.10.xx
> 
> Any ideas as to how I update the kernel?
> 
> TIA
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Do you have the linux-image-amd64 package installed? This is the meta-package 
that depends on the latest Linux kernel package for the currently installed 
release; 4.19 for beowulf and 5.10 for chimaera. Without this package there is 
nothing to tell APT to install the newer kernel package on dist-upgrade.

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Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng
Anno domini 2022 Fri, 7 Jan 05:01:46 -0600
 o1bigtenor via Dng scripsit:
> Greetings
>
> Basic question is: what happened?
>
> I wanted to update a beowulf system.
> So did the apt update, apt upgrade, apt dist-upgrade
> after changing the references in /etc/apt/sources.list
> from beowulf to chimaera.
>
> After reboot - - - well - - - screen says devuan but
> uname -r is 4.19.xx and not 5.10.xx
>
> Any ideas as to how I update the kernel?

Most likely you have 2 kernels installed, but GRUB loads the old one. Check 
that with
$ dpkg -l|grep linux-image

If so, then uninstall the old kernel and reboot. If not, install the new kernel 
with
# apt-get install linux-image-5.

Nik

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[DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
Greetings

Basic question is: what happened?

I wanted to update a beowulf system.
So did the apt update, apt upgrade, apt dist-upgrade
after changing the references in /etc/apt/sources.list
from beowulf to chimaera.

After reboot - - - well - - - screen says devuan but
uname -r is 4.19.xx and not 5.10.xx

Any ideas as to how I update the kernel?

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Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-03 Thread al3xu5 via Dng
Mon, 3 Jan 2022 06:37:43 -0600 - o1bigtenor via Dng :

> Greetings
> 
> Following the official directions:
> 
> https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/upgrade-to-chimaera
> 
> I get :
> 
> # apt update
> Ign:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera InRelease
> Ign:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-security InRelease
> Ign:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-updates InRelease
> Ign:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-backports InRelease
> Err:5 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera Release
>   404  Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
> Err:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-security Release
>   404  Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
> Err:7 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-updates Release
>   404  Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
> Err:8 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-backports Release
>   404  Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
> Reading package lists... Done
> E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera Release' does
> not have a Release file.
> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
> therefore disabled by default.
> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
> configuration details.
> E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-security
> Release' does not have a Release file.
> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
> therefore disabled by default.
> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
> configuration details.
> E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-updates
> Release' does not have a Release file.
> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
> therefore disabled by default.
> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
> configuration details.
> E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-backports
> Release' does not have a Release file.
> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
> therefore disabled by default.
> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
> configuration details.
> 
> 
> Hmm - - - not only does that response me that I was unsuccessful
> in upgrading but 2> it means I really don't know what to do next.
> 
> Please - - - what do I do to succeed at apt dist-upgrade? (from
> beowulf to chimera)


Hi are you sure your `/etc/apt/sources.list' file has the correct naming?

I can see `chimera' in the output you pasted... 
But it should be `chimaera`.

Hope it helps
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Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-03 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 03 January 2022 at 13:37:43, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:

> Greetings
> 
> Following the official directions:

Not quite...

> # apt update
> Ign:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera InRelease

It's called "chimaera" :)


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[DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
Greetings

Following the official directions:

https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/upgrade-to-chimaera

I get :

# apt update
Ign:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera InRelease
Ign:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-security InRelease
Ign:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-updates InRelease
Ign:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-backports InRelease
Err:5 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera Release
  404  Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
Err:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-security Release
  404  Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
Err:7 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-updates Release
  404  Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
Err:8 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-backports Release
  404  Not Found [IP: 131.188.12.211 80]
Reading package lists... Done
E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera Release' does
not have a Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
configuration details.
E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-security
Release' does not have a Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
configuration details.
E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-updates
Release' does not have a Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
configuration details.
E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimera-backports
Release' does not have a Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
configuration details.


Hmm - - - not only does that response me that I was unsuccessful
in upgrading but 2> it means I really don't know what to do next.

Please - - - what do I do to succeed at apt dist-upgrade? (from
beowulf to chimera)

TIA
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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance with install

2021-05-27 Thread Tim Wallace via Dng
 That's exactly how my /boot/efi directory looks, and everything works fine.  I 
would *not* mess with it!  This boot stuff is rather complex, and a bigger 
expert than me could probably say more.

--Tim

On Thursday, May 27, 2021, 8:26:07 AM EDT, o1bigtenor 
 wrote:  
 
 On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:35 AM Tim Wallace via Dng  
wrote:
>
> I've had intermittent trouble with Devuan/EFI from day 1, when I got a new 
> MB/SSD and found out I had to use EFI for my hardware to work.  Most recent 
> was a bad grub update (you may recall that was a topic of conversation here a 
> few months back.  Latest (yesterday) was my MB battery dying, and having to 
> replace that!  I could not boot, no matter what settings I picked (the no 
> legacy boot thing seems a little different in my most recent bios, but pretty 
> sure I turned it off.)
>
> Solution: I booted with a refind thumb drive, and followed the instructions 
> here: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall which may be all you need to 
> do to get your system booting.  I found when I booted that /boot/efi was not 
> mounted, even though it was in my fstab.  I mounted it when the instructions 
> called for it, and everything else worked smoothly.  I was able to boot 
> without my thumb drive, just now!
>
> Perhaps this will help.  I used refind version 0.13.1 (downloaded in Feb, 
> when I had trouble with the grub update).
>
> After this, updates to Devuan work fine, and the boot loader works normally.


I used a DVD with refind on it and was able to boot into the system - - - - yeh!

Investigating I may have found the problem (using the page that you suggested).

The command
[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD"

returns
EFI boot on HDD

When I look into the directories I see a possible issue (why I'm a
asking - - - grin!)

/boot/efi is present
# ls /boot/efi      shows
EFI
# ls /boot/efi/EFI    shows
debian devuan

I'm thinking that that directory named "EFI" is causing problems and that
both the 'debian' and the 'devuan' directories inside should be moved to
be in /boot/efi rather than in /boot/efi/EFI as at present.

Please advise

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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance with install

2021-05-27 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:35 AM Tim Wallace via Dng  wrote:
>
> I've had intermittent trouble with Devuan/EFI from day 1, when I got a new 
> MB/SSD and found out I had to use EFI for my hardware to work.  Most recent 
> was a bad grub update (you may recall that was a topic of conversation here a 
> few months back.  Latest (yesterday) was my MB battery dying, and having to 
> replace that!  I could not boot, no matter what settings I picked (the no 
> legacy boot thing seems a little different in my most recent bios, but pretty 
> sure I turned it off.)
>
> Solution: I booted with a refind thumb drive, and followed the instructions 
> here: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall which may be all you need to 
> do to get your system booting.  I found when I booted that /boot/efi was not 
> mounted, even though it was in my fstab.  I mounted it when the instructions 
> called for it, and everything else worked smoothly.  I was able to boot 
> without my thumb drive, just now!
>
> Perhaps this will help.  I used refind version 0.13.1 (downloaded in Feb, 
> when I had trouble with the grub update).
>
> After this, updates to Devuan work fine, and the boot loader works normally.


I used a DVD with refind on it and was able to boot into the system - - - - yeh!

Investigating I may have found the problem (using the page that you suggested).

The command
[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD"

returns
EFI boot on HDD

When I look into the directories I see a possible issue (why I'm a
asking - - - grin!)

/boot/efi is present
# ls /boot/efi   shows
EFI
# ls /boot/efi/EFIshows
debian devuan

I'm thinking that that directory named "EFI" is causing problems and that
both the 'debian' and the 'devuan' directories inside should be moved to
be in /boot/efi rather than in /boot/efi/EFI as at present.

Please advise

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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance with install

2021-05-25 Thread terryc
On Tue, 25 May 2021 09:54:15 -0500
o1bigtenor via Dng  wrote:

> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 9:56 PM Patrick Bartek 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 24 May 2021 20:46:06 -0500
> > o1bigtenor via Dng  wrote:
> >  
> > > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 4:51 PM o1bigtenor 
> > > wrote:  
> > > >
> > > > Greetings
> > > >
> > > > Tried a migration from Debian Buster to Beowulf - - - nope.
> > > > Downloaded the DVD and got almost all the way through the
> > > > install. Got stuck when the install demands a place to install
> > > > grub and this is an EFI setup.
> > > >  
> > >
> > > Thought I'd check things.
> > > You bet - - - - had it on legacy boot not efi boot.
> > > Changed that and did another install.
> > > At the boot after install - - - oops - - - no joy.
> > >
> > > Complaints of no run init: can't execute /sbin/init: no such file
> > > or directory.
> > >
> > > Now this I have no ideas on how to fix - - - - please advise.
> > >
> > > (This is using the devuan dvd to install from. If this doesn't
> > > work
> > > - - - - well - - -  I'm now out of my depth!)  
> >
> > For my clean install of Beowulf, I had to use Expert Mode to get the
> > EFI boot choice.  Having Legacy Mode on or off in BIOS made no
> > difference.  
> 
> Have now gone through a complete install twice using 'Expert Mode'.
> >
> > You also need a dedicated EFI partition (type ef00, EFI System type)
> > formatted FAT32 mounted on /boot/efi which should show in the
> > installer partitioner tool.  You don't need a dedicated /boot
> > partition. The boot folder under / is sufficient.  
> 
> Have an EFI partition (FAT32 IIRC) on the HDD. Said no for installing
> GRUB to some independent partition.
> >
> > Thoroughly study the install instructions, especially about setting
> > up efi.  
> 
> I can find nothing for setting up efi on Devuan on any of the
> official pages. If you know of such if you would please advise.
> 
> (I know devuan works, a buddy, now deceased a year, was a huge fan,
> likely also involved in some maintenance - - - - just how do I get
> this server testing system running Beowulf. Four installs now and
> still no joy.
> Have now done 4 installs and would like advice before I start #5.
> Doing the same thing over and over hoping results will change is
> not my idea of 'joy'.)

Agree.
Here follows my 2c based on recently experiencing something
similar to install Devuan-chimaera. (I'm chasing hardware support),

Caveat, none of my systems (all PCs)  use EFI boot. It just insn't
reliable for me. YMMV. However, I notice a couple of things doing
something similar when attempting to start via a basic Devuan-beowulf
install.

Using the desktop iso on auto mode, if I just threw the whole hard
disk at the install(guided partition), it created five spaces; filler,
efi partition, vary large data partition and exceedingly small swap
partition, then filler. It then went on to do an 'efi boot' install
that failed on my hardware.

If you want to do it manually, via expert mode, then I'd suggest using
gdisk and set up he partitions in a similar way. You will just need to
set the efi-partition to msdos type as specified in the replies
above. gdisk defaults to labelling everything linux-data.

Unfortunately, you then have to run through all the steps of the
install until if finally installs the boot system.

In my case, it just kept saying that 'failed to install grub boot
loader' or such. Very frustrating. Plus I have no idea of what I did
different (hair part?0 so that it finally worked dong an expert install.

Just maker sure you are telling the hardware to use the efi boot. Do
you need to frag the efi boot partition to the top of the boot list on
the hardware? I've found with different motherboards from the same
manufacturer, that there are differences in how you can set the boot
order. In some cases, going to the motherboard(bios) boot menu and
selecting a partition was all it needed to set it permanently. In a
different model of the same  family of motherboards, I had to actually
drag it to the top of the listed options.

Hopefully my 2c gives you some ideas.

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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance with install

2021-05-25 Thread Tim Wallace via Dng
 I've had intermittent trouble with Devuan/EFI from day 1, when I got a new 
MB/SSD and found out I had to use EFI for my hardware to work.  Most recent was 
a bad grub update (you may recall that was a topic of conversation here a few 
months back.  Latest (yesterday) was my MB battery dying, and having to replace 
that!  I could not boot, no matter what settings I picked (the no legacy boot 
thing seems a little different in my most recent bios, but pretty sure I turned 
it off.)
Solution: I booted with a refind thumb drive, and followed the instructions 
here: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall which may be all you need to do 
to get your system booting.  I found when I booted that /boot/efi was not 
mounted, even though it was in my fstab.  I mounted it when the instructions 
called for it, and everything else worked smoothly.  I was able to boot without 
my thumb drive, just now!
Perhaps this will help.  I used refind version 0.13.1 (downloaded in Feb, when 
I had trouble with the grub update).
After this, updates to Devuan work fine, and the boot loader works normally.

--Tim

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021, 10:54:58 AM EDT, o1bigtenor via Dng 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 9:56 PM Patrick Bartek  wrote:
>
> On Mon, 24 May 2021 20:46:06 -0500
> o1bigtenor via Dng  wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 4:51 PM o1bigtenor 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > Tried a migration from Debian Buster to Beowulf - - - nope.
> > > Downloaded the DVD and got almost all the way through the install.
> > > Got stuck when the install demands a place to install grub and this
> > > is an EFI setup.
> > >
> >
> > Thought I'd check things.
> > You bet - - - - had it on legacy boot not efi boot.
> > Changed that and did another install.
> > At the boot after install - - - oops - - - no joy.
> >
> > Complaints of no run init: can't execute /sbin/init: no such file or
> > directory.
> >
> > Now this I have no ideas on how to fix - - - - please advise.
> >
> > (This is using the devuan dvd to install from. If this doesn't work
> > - - - - well - - -  I'm now out of my depth!)
>
> For my clean install of Beowulf, I had to use Expert Mode to get the
> EFI boot choice.  Having Legacy Mode on or off in BIOS made no
> difference.

Have now gone through a complete install twice using 'Expert Mode'.
>
> You also need a dedicated EFI partition (type ef00, EFI System type)
> formatted FAT32 mounted on /boot/efi which should show in the installer
> partitioner tool.  You don't need a dedicated /boot partition. The boot
> folder under / is sufficient.

Have an EFI partition (FAT32 IIRC) on the HDD. Said no for installing GRUB
to some independent partition.
>
> Thoroughly study the install instructions, especially about setting up
> efi.

I can find nothing for setting up efi on Devuan on any of the official pages.
If you know of such if you would please advise.

(I know devuan works, a buddy, now deceased a year, was a huge fan,
likely also involved in some maintenance - - - - just how do I get this
server testing system running Beowulf. Four installs now and still no
joy.
Have now done 4 installs and would like advice before I start #5.
Doing the same thing over and over hoping results will change is
not my idea of 'joy'.)

TIA
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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance with install

2021-05-25 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 9:56 PM Patrick Bartek  wrote:
>
> On Mon, 24 May 2021 20:46:06 -0500
> o1bigtenor via Dng  wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 4:51 PM o1bigtenor 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > Tried a migration from Debian Buster to Beowulf - - - nope.
> > > Downloaded the DVD and got almost all the way through the install.
> > > Got stuck when the install demands a place to install grub and this
> > > is an EFI setup.
> > >
> >
> > Thought I'd check things.
> > You bet - - - - had it on legacy boot not efi boot.
> > Changed that and did another install.
> > At the boot after install - - - oops - - - no joy.
> >
> > Complaints of no run init: can't execute /sbin/init: no such file or
> > directory.
> >
> > Now this I have no ideas on how to fix - - - - please advise.
> >
> > (This is using the devuan dvd to install from. If this doesn't work
> > - - - - well - - -  I'm now out of my depth!)
>
> For my clean install of Beowulf, I had to use Expert Mode to get the
> EFI boot choice.  Having Legacy Mode on or off in BIOS made no
> difference.

Have now gone through a complete install twice using 'Expert Mode'.
>
> You also need a dedicated EFI partition (type ef00, EFI System type)
> formatted FAT32 mounted on /boot/efi which should show in the installer
> partitioner tool.  You don't need a dedicated /boot partition. The boot
> folder under / is sufficient.

Have an EFI partition (FAT32 IIRC) on the HDD. Said no for installing GRUB
to some independent partition.
>
> Thoroughly study the install instructions, especially about setting up
> efi.

I can find nothing for setting up efi on Devuan on any of the official pages.
If you know of such if you would please advise.

(I know devuan works, a buddy, now deceased a year, was a huge fan,
likely also involved in some maintenance - - - - just how do I get this
server testing system running Beowulf. Four installs now and still no
joy.
Have now done 4 installs and would like advice before I start #5.
Doing the same thing over and over hoping results will change is
not my idea of 'joy'.)

TIA
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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance with install

2021-05-24 Thread Patrick Bartek via Dng
On Mon, 24 May 2021 20:46:06 -0500
o1bigtenor via Dng  wrote:

> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 4:51 PM o1bigtenor 
> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Tried a migration from Debian Buster to Beowulf - - - nope.
> > Downloaded the DVD and got almost all the way through the install.
> > Got stuck when the install demands a place to install grub and this
> > is an EFI setup.
> >  
> 
> Thought I'd check things.
> You bet - - - - had it on legacy boot not efi boot.
> Changed that and did another install.
> At the boot after install - - - oops - - - no joy.
> 
> Complaints of no run init: can't execute /sbin/init: no such file or
> directory.
> 
> Now this I have no ideas on how to fix - - - - please advise.
> 
> (This is using the devuan dvd to install from. If this doesn't work
> - - - - well - - -  I'm now out of my depth!)

For my clean install of Beowulf, I had to use Expert Mode to get the
EFI boot choice.  Having Legacy Mode on or off in BIOS made no
difference.

You also need a dedicated EFI partition (type ef00, EFI System type)
formatted FAT32 mounted on /boot/efi which should show in the installer
partitioner tool.  You don't need a dedicated /boot partition. The boot
folder under / is sufficient.

Thoroughly study the install instructions, especially about setting up
efi.

B
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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance with install

2021-05-24 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 4:51 PM o1bigtenor  wrote:
>
> Greetings
>
> Tried a migration from Debian Buster to Beowulf - - - nope.
> Downloaded the DVD and got almost all the way through the install.
> Got stuck when the install demands a place to install grub and this is
> an EFI setup.
>

Thought I'd check things.
You bet - - - - had it on legacy boot not efi boot.
Changed that and did another install.
At the boot after install - - - oops - - - no joy.

Complaints of no run init: can't execute /sbin/init: no such file or
directory.

Now this I have no ideas on how to fix - - - - please advise.

(This is using the devuan dvd to install from. If this doesn't work
- - - - well - - -  I'm now out of my depth!)

TIA
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[DNG] Request for assistance with install

2021-05-24 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
Greetings

Tried a migration from Debian Buster to Beowulf - - - nope.
Downloaded the DVD and got almost all the way through the install.
Got stuck when the install demands a place to install grub and this is
an EFI setup.

Please advise

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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance in dealing with a nouveau problem

2021-04-02 Thread aitor

Hi,

On 2/4/21 12:54, o1bigtenor wrote:

Please - - - - if only you had read all the information that was
included in the original
post it would be quite clear why this set of instructions is NOT useful.
Would you please go back and read what is there?


I did it yesterday night and, according to the given information, you 
didn't extract the content:


root@debianbase:/tmp/nouveau/nvidia# ls
extract_firmware.py NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-390.141.run
root@debianbase:/tmp/nouveau/nvidia# python3 extract_firmware.py

Among the possibilities i could contemplate, it wasn't really clear to me 
whether or not
you forgot to copy and paste the missing intermediate step:

sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108.run --extract-only

and i said: "it seems that the nvidia subdirectory is not found".

If you felt offended by my question "didn't he/she?", my intention was far from 
it.

Cheers,

Aitor.




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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance in dealing with a nouveau problem

2021-04-02 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 5:43 PM aitor  wrote:
>
> On 2/4/21 0:16, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>
> You literally need to execute
>
> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108.run --extract-only
>
> which will extract itself creating the subdirectory
>
> Didn't he/she? All the steps are specified in the website:
>
> $ mkdir /tmp/nouveau
> $ cd /tmp/nouveau
> $ wget https://raw.github.com/envytools/firmware/master/extract_firmware.py
> $ wget 
> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/325.15/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-325.15.run
> $ sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-325.15.run --extract-only
> $ python2 extract_firmware.py  # this script is for python 2 only
> # mkdir /lib/firmware/nouveau
> # cp -d nv* vuc-* /lib/firmware/nouveau/
>
Please - - - - if only you had read all the information that was
included in the original
post it would be quite clear why this set of instructions is NOT useful.
Would you please go back and read what is there?
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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance in dealing with a nouveau problem

2021-04-01 Thread aitor

On 2/4/21 0:16, g4sra via Dng wrote:

You literally need to execute

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108.run --extract-only

which will extract itself creating the subdirectory


Didn't he/she? All the steps are specified in the website:

|$ mkdir /tmp/nouveau $ cd /tmp/nouveau $ wget 
https://raw.github.com/envytools/firmware/master/extract_firmware.py $ 
wget 
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/325.15/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-325.15.run 
$ sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-325.15.run --extract-only $ python2 
extract_firmware.py # this script is for python 2 only # mkdir 
/lib/firmware/nouveau # cp -d nv* vuc-* /lib/firmware/nouveau/ |


Aitor.

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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance in dealing with a nouveau problem

2021-04-01 Thread g4sra via Dng

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Thursday, April 1, 2021 5:53 PM, o1bigtenor via Dng  
wrote:
<--snip-->
> 

> Working through the following page:
> 

> https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/VideoAcceleration.html
> 

> I get to
> 

> $ python2 extract_firmware.py # this script is for python 2 only
> 

> where I am using
> 

> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-390.141.run
> extract_firmware.py (from right here)
> 

> my resultant is:
> 

> root@debianbase:/tmp/nouveau/nvidia# ls
> extract_firmware.py NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-390.141.run
> root@debianbase:/tmp/nouveau/nvidia# python3 extract_firmware.py
> Please run this in a directory where NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108 is a subdir.
> 

> You can make this happen by running
> wget 
> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/340.108/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108.run
> sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108.run --extract-only
> 

> Note: You can use other versions/arches, see the source for what is 
> acceptable.
> 

> In looking at the source code version 340.108 is that latest listed.
> 

> What and how do I change things so that I can extract this firmware
> blob so that hopefully my error message will disappear and my system
> will as robust as it was for the last 4 years. (I added the 5th
> monitor and that's when the issue appeared.)
> 


You literally need to execute

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108.run --extract-only

which will extract itself creating the subdirectory

NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108

you can then run

python2 extract_firmware.py





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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance in dealing with a nouveau problem

2021-04-01 Thread aitor

Hi,

On 1/4/21 18:53, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:

root@debianbase:/tmp/nouveau/nvidia# python3 extract_firmware.py
Please run this in a directory where NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108 is a subdir.

You can make this happen by running
wgethttp://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/340.108/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108.run
sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108.run --extract-only

Note: You can use other versions/arches, see the source for what is acceptable.


On the one hand, why are you using python3? The script is for python2 
only; so, better to use python2 instead.


On the other, it seems that the NVIDIA subdirectory is not found. The 
code launching this error is:


for (VERSION, ARCH) in product(VERSIONS, ARCHES):
    if os.path.exists("NVIDIA-Linux-%s-%s" % (ARCH, VERSION)):
    break
else:
    print("""Please run this in a directory where 
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-%(version)s is a subdir.

Blah blah blah
""" % {"version": VERSIONS[-1]})

where:

ARCHES = ("x86_64", "x86")

Are you under 64 bits? If so, try with this other one:

wget 
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/325.15/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-325.15.run


Good luck,

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[DNG] Request for assistance in dealing with a nouveau problem

2021-04-01 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
Greetings

This group has been far and above for approachability and helpfulness
in comparison to the predecessor group. This is not on devuan at this
point but I am working on moving my systems over - - - but aqs I've
had too many joys in the past - - - - I'm a little slow - - - -e
specially on my main system which this is.

I have filed an issue with the extract_firmware location but that
might take months until it is read and this needing to reboot
(followed by 1/2 hour of system setup) at least once every 24 hours is
enough to run anyone bananas!

Hopefully there is someone who might assist - - - - -

Running nouveau on debian testing with 2 graphics cards. 1. Nvidia
1050 Ti 2. Nvidia 570
Driving 5 monitors 1. 4k 2. rest 1920x1080
Driving seems to work well enough but i'm having to reboot at least
once every 24 hours.

Error in dmesg is:

[ 428.865383] nouveau :02:00.0: Direct firmware load for
nouveau/nvc8_fuc084 failed with error -2
[ 428.865390] nouveau :02:00.0: firmware: failed to load
nouveau/nvc8_fuc084d (-2)
[ 428.865391] nouveau :02:00.0: Direct firmware load for
nouveau/nvc8_fuc084d failed with error -2
[ 428.865393] nouveau :02:00.0: msvld: unable to load firmware data
[ 428.865394] nouveau :02:00.0: msvld: init failed, -19

Working through the following page:

https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/VideoAcceleration.html

I get to

$ python2 extract_firmware.py # this script is for python 2 only

where I am using

NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-390.141.run
extract_firmware.py (from right here)

my resultant is:

root@debianbase:/tmp/nouveau/nvidia# ls
extract_firmware.py NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-390.141.run
root@debianbase:/tmp/nouveau/nvidia# python3 extract_firmware.py
Please run this in a directory where NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108 is a subdir.

You can make this happen by running
wget 
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/340.108/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108.run
sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-340.108.run --extract-only

Note: You can use other versions/arches, see the source for what is acceptable.

In looking at the source code version 340.108 is that latest listed.

What and how do I change things so that I can extract this firmware
blob so that hopefully my error message will disappear and my system
will as robust as it was for the last 4 years. (I added the 5th
monitor and that's when the issue appeared.)

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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance

2021-01-25 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
On 25/01 10:59, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 2:27 AM al3xu5 / dotcommon
>  wrote:
> >
> > Sun, 24 Jan 2021 19:59:19 -0600 - o1bigtenor :
> >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > (Asking this here as so far I've seen some seriously skilled folks
> > > connecting in!)
> > >
> > > I've been working on getting a HiSense 50" TV (3840x2160_30) working
> > > on a Nvidia GTX1050 Ti graphics card. I have a second graphics card
> > > (Nvidia GT (IIRC) 570) with a present stable of 4 -1920x1080 monitors.
> > > I am running Nouveau rather than proprietary Nvidia software and get
> > > to use xrandr to set up my graphics system after every boot but
> > > although it took me a while to learn how to do this setup its pretty
> > > quick now.
> > > ...
> 
> I am presently stuck trying to get 'videogen' working.
> 
> Can see everything in the directory but using either root or user I get the
> same error message:
> $ videogen
> could not open configuration file "~/.videogen" (errno=2)
> 
>+--+
>|  |
>| videogen 0.33 simple XFree86 Modeline calculator |
>|  |
>|  by Szabolcs Rumi, (c) 1997 - 2003   |
>|THIS PROGRAM COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY|
>|for details see the GNU General Public License (GPLv2)|
>|  |
>+--+
> 
> error: no modes (resolutions) have been specified
> 
> Suggestion(s) on how to get over this hurdle?

Unfortunately "videogen" has compiled-in limits for width, height and
refresh rate so can't be used directly here. But, I grabbed the source
and patched for that, and then got the modeline:

% ./videogen -v -m=3840x2160  -mdc=290.000 -mhf=67.5 -hfp=176 -hbp=296 -vfp=8 
-vbp=72 -mvf=30

Modeline "3840x2160" 290.00 3840 3960 4104 4800 2160 2168 2171 2274  # 290 MHz, 
60.4 kHz, 26.6 Hz

.. if that's any use for you

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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance

2021-01-25 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 12:52 PM al3xu5 / dotcommon
 wrote:
>
> Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:59:34 -0600 - o1bigtenor :
>
> > [...]
> > >
> > > Your modeline will be something similar to:
> > >
> > > "3840x2160_30.00" 339.57 3840 4080 4496 5152 2160 2161 2164 2197 -HSync
> > > +Vsync
> > >
> >
> > 3840x2160   30.000 Hz  16:967.500 kHz 297.000 MHz (1150 mm x 650 mm)
> >  Hfront  176 Hsync  88 Hback 296 Hpol P
> >  Vfront8 Vsync  10 Vback  72 Vpol P
> >
> > It seems to me that the 297.000 MHz (different than 339.57 MHz) is
> > important.
>
> see below...
>
>
> > > [...]
>
> > I am presently stuck trying to get 'videogen' working.
> >
> > Can see everything in the directory but using either root or user I get
> > the same error message:
> > $ videogen
> > could not open configuration file "~/.videogen" (errno=2)
> > [...]
> > error: no modes (resolutions) have been specified
> >
> > Suggestion(s) on how to get over this hurdle?
>
> You should read videogen man:

I have found that man pages are designed for the expert who needs a refresher
which is not the same as a noob with no knowledge. So man pages are a last
resort for me.
>
> $ man videogen
>
> As you can see, you have to specify command parameters for videogen and/or
> a configuration file for videogen where to read parameters to be used.
>
> In short, you need tu run videogen in this way:

THANK YOU (deliberate use of caps!) - - - - this is the one thing that man pages
seem unable to do - - - - an example of good usage.
>
> $ videogen -v nvidia=on mode=WxH -mdc=CCC -mhf=HHH -mvf=VVV -dvf=OOO
>
> where:
>-v verbose output
>
>nvidia=on|off
>   Turn on/off non-free NVidia Linux driver compatibility mode.
>(default=on)
>
>mode=modespec
>   Adds modespec to the list of modes to calculate a Modeline
>for. This must be in the form 800x600 (width x height) and it  can
>be  specified  more than once to add several modes.
>
>-mdc=freq
>   Set freq to the maximum dot clock rate of your video card or
>the bandwidth of your monitor, whichever is lower, in MHz.
>
>-mhf=freq
>   Set freq to the maximum horizontal refresh frequency of your
>monitor in kHz.
>
>-mvf=freq
>   Set freq to the maximum vertical refresh frequency of your
>monitor in Hz.
>
>-dvf=freq
>   Set  freq  to the vertical refresh frequency which you think
>would be optimal for you, in Hz.  The program will try to match
>this frequency at all resolutions, instead of the maximum frequency
>that would be technically possible. (optional)
>
>
following is one example of the output:

# videogen -v nvidia=on mode=3840x2160 -mdc=300.00 -mhf=67.500 -dvf=30
argument 6 (-dvf=30) has an invalid parameter
command line syntax error

I tried both with nvidia on and off, -dvf from 25 to 35 (clock/x*y).

It would seem that I've struck out - - - - one more time - - - oh well.

I think the wife will be overjoyed at getting a new TV except that I likely
won't be getting a new monitor for quite some time!

Thanks for the help!!

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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance

2021-01-25 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 2:27 AM al3xu5 / dotcommon
 wrote:
>
> Sun, 24 Jan 2021 19:59:19 -0600 - o1bigtenor :
>
> > Greetings
> >
> > (Asking this here as so far I've seen some seriously skilled folks
> > connecting in!)
> >
> > I've been working on getting a HiSense 50" TV (3840x2160_30) working
> > on a Nvidia GTX1050 Ti graphics card. I have a second graphics card
> > (Nvidia GT (IIRC) 570) with a present stable of 4 -1920x1080 monitors.
> > I am running Nouveau rather than proprietary Nvidia software and get
> > to use xrandr to set up my graphics system after every boot but
> > although it took me a while to learn how to do this setup its pretty
> > quick now.
> >
> > Part of the 'fun' in wanting to add the 3840x2160_30 monitor is that
> > EDID has become a more than somewhat 'challenging' system. Enough so
> > that I was able to find this:
> > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.6/driver-api/edid.html
> >
> > Creating this 'custom' EDID is a long ways from my wheelhouse - - - I
> > have spend some time today trying to find some of the stuff indicated
> > on that page - - - - can't find anything (maybe also a good thing!). I
> > am going to attach (hopefully the list accepts attachments) 2 files
> > which give enough information so that someone with the requisite
> > skills could create this 'custom' EDID that I need so that I could
> > then use xrandr to get this monitor working. Is there someone who
> > might be able to do this? (I think doing it might be a lot less time
> > consuming that guiding me through the doing of it - - - especially as
> > I have essentially zero programming skills)
> >
> > Please?
> >
> > TIA
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> I had the same problem with a Panasonic Viera TV. Here below the way I
> have solved.
>
>
> You need a valid right modeline for your tv/monitor with the desired
> resolution/refresh.
>
> You have the hardware specs of your tv/monitor, and its EDID file you
> attached which has:
>
>   DTD   1:  3840x2160   30.000 Hz  16:967.500 kHz 297.000 MHz (1872 mm
>   x 1053 mm) Hfront  176 Hsync  88 Hback 296 Hpol P
>  Vfront8 Vsync  10 Vback  72 Vpol P
>
> Using these informations you should be able to find the modeline you need.
>
> See:

This looks like exactly what I've been scouring the web for - - - but
- - - there
are some issues with some of the following.
>
> Modeline Database - MythTV Official Wiki
> https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Modeline_Database

Nothing on 4k or wide format TVs/monitors.
>
> Working with Modelines - MythTV Official Wiki
> https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Working_with_Modelines
>
> * Modeline Calculator
> https://arachnoid.com/modelines/

this seems to be very much like cvt
>
> videogen
> http://www.dynaweb.hu/opensource/videogen/
>
> Debian -- Package Search Results -- videogen
> https://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=videogen=names=1=all=all
>
>
> Your modeline will be something similar to:
>
> "3840x2160_30.00" 339.57 3840 4080 4496 5152 2160 2161 2164 2197 -HSync
> +Vsync
>

3840x2160   30.000 Hz  16:967.500 kHz 297.000 MHz (1150 mm x 650 mm)
 Hfront  176 Hsync  88 Hback 296 Hpol P
 Vfront8 Vsync  10 Vback  72 Vpol P

It seems to me that the 297.000 MHz (different than 339.57 MHz) is important.


> (Be very careful because using an incorrect modeline may DAMAGE the
> display.)
>
>
> Once you have the right modeline, you need to pass it to xrandr for each
> session.
>
> If you are using a DM (e.g lightdm), you can configure it to run a script
> when starting each session.

I have a cheat sheet and just enter the 6 commands (on my existing
2 card 4 monitor setup) to get the second card recognized and working.
>
> Here is how mine is (you should change it accordingly to your tv/monitor
> model and modeline): ~~~
> #!/bin/bash
>
> # ## DISPLAY SETUP
> # Modeline for Panasonic Viera 32" HDMI LCD TV (model: TX-32LX52F)
> xrandr --newmode "1216x684_60" 74.160 1216 1356 1396 1648 684 707 712 750
> +hsync +vsync xrandr --addmode HDMI-1 "1216x684_60"
> xrandr --output  HDMI-1 --mode "1216x684_60"

I am presently stuck trying to get 'videogen' working.

Can see everything in the directory but using either root or user I get the
same error message:
$ videogen
could not open configuration file "~/.videogen" (errno=2)

   +--+
   |  |
   | videogen 0.33 simple XFree86 Modeline calculator |
   |  |
   |  by Szabolcs Rumi, (c) 1997 - 2003   |
   |THIS PROGRAM COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY|
   |for details see the GNU General Public License (GPLv2)|
   |  |
   +--+

error: no modes 

Re: [DNG] Request for assistance

2021-01-25 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Sun, 24 Jan 2021 19:59:19 -0600 - o1bigtenor :

> Greetings
> 
> (Asking this here as so far I've seen some seriously skilled folks
> connecting in!)
> 
> I've been working on getting a HiSense 50" TV (3840x2160_30) working
> on a Nvidia GTX1050 Ti graphics card. I have a second graphics card
> (Nvidia GT (IIRC) 570) with a present stable of 4 -1920x1080 monitors.
> I am running Nouveau rather than proprietary Nvidia software and get
> to use xrandr to set up my graphics system after every boot but
> although it took me a while to learn how to do this setup its pretty
> quick now.
> 
> Part of the 'fun' in wanting to add the 3840x2160_30 monitor is that
> EDID has become a more than somewhat 'challenging' system. Enough so
> that I was able to find this:
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.6/driver-api/edid.html
> 
> Creating this 'custom' EDID is a long ways from my wheelhouse - - - I
> have spend some time today trying to find some of the stuff indicated
> on that page - - - - can't find anything (maybe also a good thing!). I
> am going to attach (hopefully the list accepts attachments) 2 files
> which give enough information so that someone with the requisite
> skills could create this 'custom' EDID that I need so that I could
> then use xrandr to get this monitor working. Is there someone who
> might be able to do this? (I think doing it might be a lot less time
> consuming that guiding me through the doing of it - - - especially as
> I have essentially zero programming skills)
> 
> Please?
> 
> TIA



Hi

I had the same problem with a Panasonic Viera TV. Here below the way I
have solved.


You need a valid right modeline for your tv/monitor with the desired
resolution/refresh.

You have the hardware specs of your tv/monitor, and its EDID file you
attached which has:

  DTD   1:  3840x2160   30.000 Hz  16:967.500 kHz 297.000 MHz (1872 mm
  x 1053 mm) Hfront  176 Hsync  88 Hback 296 Hpol P
 Vfront8 Vsync  10 Vback  72 Vpol P

Using these informations you should be able to find the modeline you need.

See:

Modeline Database - MythTV Official Wiki
https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Modeline_Database

Working with Modelines - MythTV Official Wiki
https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Working_with_Modelines

* Modeline Calculator
https://arachnoid.com/modelines/

videogen
http://www.dynaweb.hu/opensource/videogen/

Debian -- Package Search Results -- videogen
https://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=videogen=names=1=all=all


Your modeline will be something similar to:

"3840x2160_30.00" 339.57 3840 4080 4496 5152 2160 2161 2164 2197 -HSync
+Vsync

(Be very careful because using an incorrect modeline may DAMAGE the
display.)


Once you have the right modeline, you need to pass it to xrandr for each
session.

If you are using a DM (e.g lightdm), you can configure it to run a script
when starting each session.

Here is how mine is (you should change it accordingly to your tv/monitor
model and modeline): ~~~
#!/bin/bash

# ## DISPLAY SETUP
# Modeline for Panasonic Viera 32" HDMI LCD TV (model: TX-32LX52F)
xrandr --newmode "1216x684_60" 74.160 1216 1356 1396 1648 684 707 712 750
+hsync +vsync xrandr --addmode HDMI-1 "1216x684_60"
xrandr --output  HDMI-1 --mode "1216x684_60"
~~~

Regards

al3xu5

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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance

2021-01-24 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 8:13 PM Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
 wrote:
>
> On 24/01 19:59, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> > Greetings
> >
> > (Asking this here as so far I've seen some seriously skilled folks
> > connecting in!)
> >
> > I've been working on getting a HiSense 50" TV (3840x2160_30) working
> > on a Nvidia GTX1050 Ti graphics card. I have a second graphics card
> > (Nvidia GT (IIRC) 570) with a present stable of 4 -1920x1080 monitors.
> > I am running Nouveau rather than proprietary Nvidia software and get
> > to use xrandr to set up my graphics system after every boot but
> > although it took me a while to learn how to do this setup its pretty
> > quick now.
> >
> > Part of the 'fun' in wanting to add the 3840x2160_30 monitor is that
> > EDID has become a more than somewhat 'challenging' system. Enough so
> > that I was able to find this:
> > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.6/driver-api/edid.html
> >
> > Creating this 'custom' EDID is a long ways from my wheelhouse - - - I
> > have spend some time today trying to find some of the stuff indicated
> > on that page - - - - can't find anything (maybe also a good thing!). I
> > am going to attach (hopefully the list accepts attachments) 2 files
> > which give enough information so that someone with the requisite
> > skills could create this 'custom' EDID that I need so that I could
> > then use xrandr to get this monitor working. Is there someone who
> > might be able to do this? (I think doing it might be a lot less time
> > consuming that guiding me through the doing of it - - - especially as
> > I have essentially zero programming skills)
>
> I think that
>
> 1) the program "cvt" is useful for getting the details right
> 
> $ cvt 3840 2160 30
> # 3840x2160 29.98 Hz (CVT) hsync: 65.96 kHz; pclk: 338.75 MHz
> Modeline "3840x2160_30.00"  338.75  3840 4080 4488 5136  2160 2163 2168 2200 
> -hsync +vsync
> 

tried this - - - - sorry it needs to be a little bit different!
>
> 2) you can use that almost verbatim to assign this with xrandr, rather
> than rebuilding the module:
>
> $ xrandr --newmode "3840x2160_30.00"  338.75  3840 4080 4488 5136  2160 2163 
> 2168 2200 -hsync +vsync
>
If you look in the attached files the frequency can't be 338.75 - - - it
to be 297 MHz. The mode file is just a little bit different than the one
that cvt proposes. (Sunno why and there are some other goofy things
going on but if I can get it working - - - - I can live with the rest!)

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Re: [DNG] Request for assistance

2021-01-24 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
On 24/01 19:59, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> Greetings
> 
> (Asking this here as so far I've seen some seriously skilled folks
> connecting in!)
> 
> I've been working on getting a HiSense 50" TV (3840x2160_30) working
> on a Nvidia GTX1050 Ti graphics card. I have a second graphics card
> (Nvidia GT (IIRC) 570) with a present stable of 4 -1920x1080 monitors.
> I am running Nouveau rather than proprietary Nvidia software and get
> to use xrandr to set up my graphics system after every boot but
> although it took me a while to learn how to do this setup its pretty
> quick now.
> 
> Part of the 'fun' in wanting to add the 3840x2160_30 monitor is that
> EDID has become a more than somewhat 'challenging' system. Enough so
> that I was able to find this:
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.6/driver-api/edid.html
> 
> Creating this 'custom' EDID is a long ways from my wheelhouse - - - I
> have spend some time today trying to find some of the stuff indicated
> on that page - - - - can't find anything (maybe also a good thing!). I
> am going to attach (hopefully the list accepts attachments) 2 files
> which give enough information so that someone with the requisite
> skills could create this 'custom' EDID that I need so that I could
> then use xrandr to get this monitor working. Is there someone who
> might be able to do this? (I think doing it might be a lot less time
> consuming that guiding me through the doing of it - - - especially as
> I have essentially zero programming skills)

I think that

1) the program "cvt" is useful for getting the details right

$ cvt 3840 2160 30
# 3840x2160 29.98 Hz (CVT) hsync: 65.96 kHz; pclk: 338.75 MHz
Modeline "3840x2160_30.00"  338.75  3840 4080 4488 5136  2160 2163 2168 2200 
-hsync +vsync


2) you can use that almost verbatim to assign this with xrandr, rather
than rebuilding the module:

$ xrandr --newmode "3840x2160_30.00"  338.75  3840 4080 4488 5136  2160 2163 
2168 2200 -hsync +vsync

and then add that mode for the output (say VGA-2):

$ xrandr --output VGA-2 --addmode 3840x2160_30.00

and then set that as the current mode for the output:

$ xrandr --output VGA-2 --mode 3840x2160_30.00

regards,

Ralph.
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[DNG] Request for assistance

2021-01-24 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
Greetings

(Asking this here as so far I've seen some seriously skilled folks
connecting in!)

I've been working on getting a HiSense 50" TV (3840x2160_30) working
on a Nvidia GTX1050 Ti graphics card. I have a second graphics card
(Nvidia GT (IIRC) 570) with a present stable of 4 -1920x1080 monitors.
I am running Nouveau rather than proprietary Nvidia software and get
to use xrandr to set up my graphics system after every boot but
although it took me a while to learn how to do this setup its pretty
quick now.

Part of the 'fun' in wanting to add the 3840x2160_30 monitor is that
EDID has become a more than somewhat 'challenging' system. Enough so
that I was able to find this:
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.6/driver-api/edid.html

Creating this 'custom' EDID is a long ways from my wheelhouse - - - I
have spend some time today trying to find some of the stuff indicated
on that page - - - - can't find anything (maybe also a good thing!). I
am going to attach (hopefully the list accepts attachments) 2 files
which give enough information so that someone with the requisite
skills could create this 'custom' EDID that I need so that I could
then use xrandr to get this monitor working. Is there someone who
might be able to do this? (I think doing it might be a lot less time
consuming that guiding me through the doing of it - - - especially as
I have essentially zero programming skills)

Please?

TIA


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