Re: [DNG] systemd-free.org

[Steve Litt]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:24:17 +0300
"Jack L. Frost"  wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 01:33:37PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Arch is a virulently pro-systemd, anti-choice distro...  
> 
> Counter-argument: https://fleshless.org/pages/spark.html

Nice! I like the documentation on that page telling you what to expect
and how to achieve it.

> 
> I have tried to do the same with debian and void, both were much more
> rigid than Arch and fought me the whole way.

Can't speak for Debian, but yeah, I've done a Void chroot install, and
it's difficult. Of course I've never found Arch's chroot install easy
either (or for that matter Gentoo and Funtoo), but Void's much easier
with void-installer.

SteveT

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Re: [DNG] systemd-free.org

[Jack L. Frost]

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 01:33:37PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> Arch is a virulently pro-systemd, anti-choice distro...

Counter-argument: https://fleshless.org/pages/spark.html

I have tried to do the same with debian and void, both were much more rigid
than Arch and fought me the whole way.


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Re: [DNG] systemd-free.org

[Steve Litt]

Arch is a virulently pro-systemd, anti-choice distro, unlike its
descendant, Manjaro. If Arch is really home-growing a systemd-free
version of Arch, this would be, in the words of Joe Biden, a BIG F'ing
DEAL!

Arch is often trotted out to combat accusations that systemd is a
redhatism, and that systemd is just something for dumb-newbie users. To
the extent that systemd is repudiated by any segment of the Arch
community, this is a huge propaganda loss for systemd.

SteveT

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:27:37 -
"dev1fanboy"  wrote:

> Although I'm no fan of rolling release distros, it's good to know
> there is some effort to preserve other inits there.
> 
> On Monday, January 25, 2016 3:47 PM, Jaromil  wrote:
> > re all,
> > 
> > here a new initiative by brothers and sisters of ArchLinux, one of
> > the first distributions to be bullied into systemd
> > http://systemd-free.org
> > 
> > ArchLinux is a relatively young and very sharp distribution, they
> > have arguably the best documentation wiki on-line on GNU/Linux
> > matters and many smart people among their developers, some well
> > known to us at dyne.org.
> > 
> > This initiative is worth following I believe, especially for those
> > of us who are intentioned in stepping over to OpenRC, since that
> > seems to be the direction they are taking.
> > 
> > ciao
> > 
> > --
> > Denis Roio aka Jaromil   http://Dyne.org think  tank
> >   CTO and co-founder  free/open source developer
> > 加密  6113 D89C A825 C5CE DD02 C872 73B3 5DA5 4ACB 7D10
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[DNG] systemd-free.org

[Jaromil]

re all,

here a new initiative by brothers and sisters of ArchLinux, one of the
first distributions to be bullied into systemd http://systemd-free.org

ArchLinux is a relatively young and very sharp distribution, they have
arguably the best documentation wiki on-line on GNU/Linux matters and
many smart people among their developers, some well known to us at
dyne.org.

This initiative is worth following I believe, especially for those of us
who are intentioned in stepping over to OpenRC, since that seems to be
the direction they are taking.

ciao

-- 
Denis Roio aka Jaromil   http://Dyne.org think  tank
  CTO and co-founder  free/open source developer
加密  6113 D89C A825 C5CE DD02 C872 73B3 5DA5 4ACB 7D10



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Re: [DNG] systemd-free.org

[dev1fanboy]

Although I'm no fan of rolling release distros, it's good to know there is some 
effort to preserve other inits there.

On Monday, January 25, 2016 3:47 PM, Jaromil  wrote:
> re all,
> 
> here a new initiative by brothers and sisters of ArchLinux, one of the
> first distributions to be bullied into systemd http://systemd-free.org
> 
> ArchLinux is a relatively young and very sharp distribution, they have
> arguably the best documentation wiki on-line on GNU/Linux matters and
> many smart people among their developers, some well known to us at
> dyne.org.
> 
> This initiative is worth following I believe, especially for those of us
> who are intentioned in stepping over to OpenRC, since that seems to be
> the direction they are taking.
> 
> ciao
> 
> --
> Denis Roio aka Jaromil   http://Dyne.org think  tank
>   CTO and co-founder  free/open source developer
> 加密  6113 D89C A825 C5CE DD02 C872 73B3 5DA5 4ACB 7D10
> 
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