Re: [DNG] terminal paste failure

2020-07-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 09:10:50AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 11:41:18PM +0200, richard lucassen via Dng wrote:
> > On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 10:02:05 -0400
> > Haines Brown  wrote:
> > 
> > > This morning I find that the wiress mouse can cut and paste between 
> > > terminals or nano sessions even with the wired mouse disconnected. 
> > > Whether the problem is permanently in the past remains to be seen.
> > 
> > Try "reset" in the terminal, sometimes this helps. See "man reset" for
> > more info.
> 
> Richard, thanks for the suggestion. I had never encountered tset or 
> reset. Don't need it now because copy/paste continues to work as it 
> should. 

Now we have a workaround if it should happen again.
But the workaround doesn't work if you're not running in the shell.
And there remains the question of why does this happen in the first place.

-- hendrik

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Re: [DNG] terminal paste failure

2020-07-03 Thread Haines Brown
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 11:41:18PM +0200, richard lucassen via Dng wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 10:02:05 -0400
> Haines Brown  wrote:
> 
> > This morning I find that the wiress mouse can cut and paste between 
> > terminals or nano sessions even with the wired mouse disconnected. 
> > Whether the problem is permanently in the past remains to be seen.
> 
> Try "reset" in the terminal, sometimes this helps. See "man reset" for
> more info.

Richard, thanks for the suggestion. I had never encountered tset or 
reset. Don't need it now because copy/paste continues to work as it 
should. 

Haines Brown
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Re: [DNG] terminal paste failure

2020-07-02 Thread richard lucassen via Dng
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 10:02:05 -0400
Haines Brown  wrote:

> This morning I find that the wiress mouse can cut and paste between 
> terminals or nano sessions even with the wired mouse disconnected. 
> Whether the problem is permanently in the past remains to be seen.

Try "reset" in the terminal, sometimes this helps. See "man reset" for
more info.

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Re: [DNG] terminal paste failure

2020-07-02 Thread Haines Brown
On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 05:36:05PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> Last night for some reason I can no lonter paste text selected in 
> nano to another nano document with the middle mouse button. It seems 
> to have failed in the course of the night.

> ...

> However, an old wired USB mouse does not suffer from the problem. 
>  
> Haines Brown 

This morning I find that the wiress mouse can cut and paste between 
terminals or nano sessions even with the wired mouse disconnected. 
Whether the problem is permanently in the past remains to be seen.

Haines Brown
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Re: [DNG] terminal paste failure

2020-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 05:36:05PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> Last night for some reason I can no lonter paste text selected in 
> nano to another nano document with the middle mouse button. It seems 
> to have failed in the course of the night.
> 
> I've been running Beowulf ever since the beta. I don't have a desktop 
> environment but rely on fluxbox for window management.
> 
> The problem affects both root and user. It does not affect selecting 
> and pasting between GUI applications such aa emacs. It affects both 
> eterm and mlterm. eTerm puzzles me. I installed xterm, but it runs 
> eterm.
> 
> Clearing the caches did not help:
> 
>   $ xsel -cp && xsel -cs && xsel -cb
> 
> 
> Selected text shows up in xcliboard, and so the problem seems to be 
> with pasting. 
> 
> I tried Ctl-Shift-c and Ctl-Shift-v without luck.
> 
> I tried Ctl-w to cut a work, but Ctl-y did not paste it.
> 
> I repladed the (wireless) mouse and used it in a different port. 
> Reconfiguring xserver-xorg and rebooting did not help.
> 
> However, an old wired USB mouse does not suffer from the problem. 

I had similar problems a few days ago.  Suddenly some cut-and-pastes 
didn't work.  In particular, I was unable to cut from emacs or a 
terminal (I forget which teminal program; it could have been 
qterminal, xterm, or uxterm) and paste in the URL bar of firefox.  It 
didn't matter whether I used the outline in emacs and paste with 
middle-click or the edit manu in emacs and the paste menu item on 
firefox.

I wondered whether this might be because of the two somewhat 
incompatible mechanisms in X versus in a desktop.  Sometimes this means 
one kind of cut doesn't match another kind of paste and I just try again 
with a different combination.  But this time switching kinds didn't 
hwlp.

And some pieces of software try hard to be compatible with both.  It can 
help, but what to do if the two paste buffers have different 
information?  Or maybe I'm off-track here and have some 
misunderstanding about how the cu/paste mechanisms ineract.
There does seem to be some conflict between X and desktops, though.

I was baffled.  I wrote a note about it to this mailing list and got no 
reply.  I couldn't remember doing any upgrades or other system changes 
recently.

But after I logged out and logged in again (I forget whether I also 
turned the machine off and on again; I think I didn't), everything was 
OK.

I too use a wireless mouse.

I still do not understand what happened.

-- hendrik

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[DNG] terminal paste failure

2020-07-01 Thread Haines Brown
Last night for some reason I can no lonter paste text selected in 
nano to another nano document with the middle mouse button. It seems 
to have failed in the course of the night.

I've been running Beowulf ever since the beta. I don't have a desktop 
environment but rely on fluxbox for window management.

The problem affects both root and user. It does not affect selecting 
and pasting between GUI applications such aa emacs. It affects both 
eterm and mlterm. eTerm puzzles me. I installed xterm, but it runs 
eterm.

Clearing the caches did not help:

  $ xsel -cp && xsel -cs && xsel -cb


Selected text shows up in xcliboard, and so the problem seems to be 
with pasting. 

I tried Ctl-Shift-c and Ctl-Shift-v without luck.

I tried Ctl-w to cut a work, but Ctl-y did not paste it.

I repladed the (wireless) mouse and used it in a different port. 
Reconfiguring xserver-xorg and rebooting did not help.

However, an old wired USB mouse does not suffer from the problem. 

 
Haines Brown 

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