Re: [DNG] upgrade issues
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 13, 2022, at 5:16 PM, terryc wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 15:04:12 -0500 > Curtis Maurand wrote: > >> >> daemons that were stopped and disabled got re-enabled and started, >> cups, cups-browsed, avahi-daemon, saned. >> None of these are needed on >> a LAMP installation. I had disabled them a long time ago. It seems >> to me, that the install script should be checking so see whether a >> service is set to be running in the default runlevels. I had run >> update-rc.d -f service remove on all of those. I found them all >> running and had to stop and disable them all again. >> >> Apparmor, which, when I first installed this machine, was stopped and >> removed before I had gone and installed anything on it. Apparmor got >> installed, though I had uninstalled it when I set this server up. I >> had to stop it, run aa-teardown and run update-rc.d -f remove >> apparmor. I though I had purged that a long time ago. >> >> Thought this was worth noting. > >> > Did you turn off reccomends? That catches me and drags a pile in. > ooh, i did not. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] upgrade issues
On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 15:04:12 -0500 Curtis Maurand wrote: > > daemons that were stopped and disabled got re-enabled and started, > cups, cups-browsed, avahi-daemon, saned. > None of these are needed on > a LAMP installation. I had disabled them a long time ago. It seems > to me, that the install script should be checking so see whether a > service is set to be running in the default runlevels. I had run > update-rc.d -f service remove on all of those. I found them all > running and had to stop and disable them all again. > > Apparmor, which, when I first installed this machine, was stopped and > removed before I had gone and installed anything on it. Apparmor got > installed, though I had uninstalled it when I set this server up. I > had to stop it, run aa-teardown and run update-rc.d -f remove > apparmor. I though I had purged that a long time ago. > > Thought this was worth noting. > Did you turn off reccomends? That catches me and drags a pile in. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] upgrade issues
Sorry about not proofreading before hitting send. On 2/13/22 15:04, Curtis Maurand wrote: Hello, I've been running Devuan since ASCII. I love the distribution so far and I really like that systemd is not involved. Install docker and parts of systemd infrastructure will show up, though, like cgroups. I upgraded this machine to Beowulf and I have spent a couple of weeks trying to upgrade it to Chimaera. For the most part the upgrade went smoothly on the 3rd try. Thankfully, this is on a virtual machine so I was able to work no a copy in a test environment. The first test environment (an old 6 core AMD) was pressed into service. The upgrade failed on this host because it is so old (AMD Phenom II 6 core) that it did not have ssse3 support. libhypersan (needed for regular expressions) won't install without it. That broke the entire installation. So that was no good and I had to change hosts. That covers the first 2 tries. I host websites on this system. It needs to work. fail2ban didn't like the upgrade process at all and hung. I had to kill fail2ban and the dist-upgrade went on, but gave an dpkg error at the end. postgrey also hung. I killed that and got a dkpg error at the end on that one, too. PHP is 2 versions behind. Seriously? The current version 8.1.n. PHP 7.4 goes end of life in november and Devuan has no PHP upgrade path as the Sury.org packages will install except for php-fpm which has a systemd dependency. I need php-fpm as most modern webservers use this instead of apache directly. Plesk and ISPConfig both work this way. I'm running ISPConfig. daemons that were stopped and disabled got re-enabled and started, cups, cups-browsed, avahi-daemon, saned. None of these are needed on a LAMP installation. I had disabled them a long time ago. It seems to me, that the install script should be checking so see whether a service is set to be running in the default runlevels. I had run update-rc.d -f service remove on all of those. I found them all running and had to stop and disable them all again. Apparmor, which, when I first installed this machine, was stopped and removed before I had gone and installed anything on it. Apparmor got installed, though I had uninstalled it when I set this server up. I had to stop it, run aa-teardown and run update-rc.d -f remove apparmor. I though I had purged that a long time ago. Thought this was worth noting. Cheers, Curtis ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] upgrade issues
Hello, I've been running Devuan since ASCII. I love the distribution so far and I really like that systemd is not involved. Install docker and parts of systemd infrastructure will show up, though, like cgroups. I upgraded this machine to Beowulf and I have spent a couple of weeks trying to upgrade it to Chimaera. For the most part the upgrade went smoothly on the 3rd try. Thankfully, this is on a virtual machine so I was able to work no a copy in a test environment. The first test environment (an old 6 core AMD) was pressed into service. The upgrade failed on this host because it is so old (AMD Phenom II 6 core) that it did not have ssse3 support. libhypersan (needed for regular expressions) won't install without it. That broke the entire installation. So that was no good and I had to change hosts. That covers the first 2 tries. I host websites on this system. It needs to work. fail2ban didn't like the upgrade process at all and hung. I had to kill fail2ban and the dist-upgrade went on, but gave an dpkg error at the end. postgrey also hung. I killed that and got a dkpg error at the end on that one, too. PHP is 2 versions behind. Seriously? The current version 8.1.n. PHP 7.4 goes end of life in november and Devuan has no PHP upgrade path as the Sury.org packages will install except for php-fpm which has a systemd dependency. I need php-fpm as most modern webservers use this instead of apache directly. Plesk and ISPConfig both work this way. I'm running ISPConfig. daemons that were stopped and disabled got re-enabled and started, cups, cups-browsed, avahi-daemon, saned. None of these are needed on a LAMP installation. I had disabled them a long time ago. It seems to me, that the install script should be checking so see whether a service is set to be running in the default runlevels. I had run update-rc.d -f service remove on all of those. I found them all running and had to stop and disable them all again. Apparmor, which, when I first installed this machine, was stopped and removed before I had gone and installed anything on it. Apparmor got installed, though I had uninstalled it when I set this server up. I had to stop it, run aa-teardown and run update-rc.d -f remove apparmor. I though I had purged that a long time ago. Thought this was worth noting. Cheers, Curtis ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
