Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

2015-01-17 Thread karl
Dragan:
 From: Martinx - ジェームズ thiagocmarti...@gmail.com
  If you know how to help us with the correct solution that
  will immediately work correctly, you are very welcome to our
  community.
  
  What about eudev? 
  
 I don't know if eudev is successfully ported to debian to satisfy
 all dependencies?
 Let me remind you.. a lot of packages depends on udev, and without
 them we would get pretty unusable desktop.

Some packages depend on udev for the wrong reasons. I intend to build
-nonudev- packages and publish them at:

 http://turkos.aspodata.se/computing/nonudev/

In case anyone else would need them.

Regards,
/Karl Hammar

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Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

2015-01-14 Thread Dragan FOSS
 Author: Gravis
 Date: 2015-01-14 14:21 +100
 To: dng
 Subject: Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd
 so about TRIOS, what's the deal with the forum site https://foss.rs?
 it claims in the metadata to be lang=en-US and thusly google
 _REFUSES_ to translate it because it's already in English.
 
 -Gravis 

Hi Gravis, 

Short guide for visitors to our forum, who want to translate the whole site 
into the language of choice
https://foss.rs/threads/translate-foss-serbia.3077

..
As far as I can see, GT for our forum works without any problems, but if you 
still have problems with translation, please let me know.
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Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

2015-01-14 Thread Gravis
so about TRIOS, what's the deal with the forum site https://foss.rs?
it claims in the metadata to be lang=en-US and thusly google
_REFUSES_ to translate it because it's already in English.

-Gravis

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Dragan FOSS dragan.f...@gmx.com wrote:

  Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 at 8:28 PM
  From: Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com
  To: dng@lists.dyne.org, Dragan FOSS dragan.f...@gmx.com
  Subject: Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd
 
  On Thu, 1/8/15, Dragan FOSS dragan.f...@gmx.com wrote:
 
   Subject: Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd
   To: dng@lists.dyne.org
   Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 4:28 PM
 
   This is TRIOS.
 
  
 
  Well, I finally burned a cd and gave the live disk a spin - it booted 
  pretty quickly.  Great job guys! TRIOS could be a viable option for me 
  moving forward.  Only a few comments.  I have never liked the whisker menu 
  - too many words, too many icons, too shiny UGH!  Easy enough to get the 
  default menu back though.  :)  A full Libre Office install means that I 
  would have to be doing a custom install to get only the writer.  (Lack of 
  Libre Office as default is one reason I like Refracta.)  Latest 
  FF/Iceweasel sucks but nothing can be done about that.  Everything was 
  going pretty smoothly until I exited to reboot. The shutdown sequence did 
  not stop to allow for removal of the disk.  Instead it immediately rebooted 
  the CD and there was no option in the menu to restart/reboot.  It was a 
  messy shutdown from the big button which I don't want to do again.  This 
  ungraceful exit needs to be fixed.
 
  Hardware:  Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 (in legacy mode), Intel Core i3-4130 Haswell 
  Dual-Core 3.4GHz LGA 1150, no added audio or graphics card, wired connection

 Hi Go Linux,

 Thanks for your feedback.

 It has given me helpful information about some glitches, which we will try to 
 fix for next release.
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Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

2015-01-09 Thread Richard
Thanks for the link.
axel is working hard...

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Martinx - ジェームズ thiagocmarti...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 9 January 2015 at 01:59, Dragan FOSS dragan.f...@gmx.com wrote:

 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 at 3:38 AM
 From: Martinx - ジェームズ thiagocmarti...@gmail.com
 To: Dragan FOSS dragan.f...@gmx.com
 Cc: Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com, dng@lists.dyne.org 
 dng@lists.dyne.org
 Subject: Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

  If you know how to help us with the correct solution that will
 immediately work correctly, you are very welcome to our community.

  What about eudev?

 I don't know if eudev is successfully ported to debian to satisfy all
 dependencies?
 Let me remind you.. a lot of packages depends on udev, and without them
 we would get pretty unusable desktop.


 From what I've read about `eudev`, it is a `systemd-udev` drop-in
 replacement. Since it is a fork of systemd, just to take udev back, as
 old days...

 If `systemd-udev` is the only systemd-thing that your guys have left in
 TRIOS, then, with `eudev`, you can kick `systemd` out of TRIOS easily.

 It worth trying to package it in the same way we have `libudev1`,
 `libudev-dev`, etc, but, from `eudev` sources... The programs that depends
 on udev, will not see any difference (I believe).

 Cheers!

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Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

2015-01-09 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
On 9 January 2015 at 14:41, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the link.
 axel is working hard...


Cool! Let us know about its progress!
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Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

2015-01-08 Thread Dragan FOSS
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 at 3:38 AM
From: Martinx - ジェームズ thiagocmarti...@gmail.com
To: Dragan FOSS dragan.f...@gmx.com
Cc: Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com, dng@lists.dyne.org dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

 If you know how to help us with the correct solution that will immediately 
work correctly, you are very welcome to our community.
 
 What about eudev? 
 
I don't know if eudev is successfully ported to debian to satisfy all 
dependencies?
Let me remind you.. a lot of packages depends on udev, and without them we 
would get pretty unusable desktop.

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Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

2015-01-08 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
On 9 January 2015 at 00:02, Dragan FOSS dragan.f...@gmx.com wrote:



  Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 at 1:35 AM
  From: Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com
  To: dng@lists.dyne.org, Dragan FOSS dragan.f...@gmx.com
  Subject: Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd
 
  On Thu, 1/8/15, Dragan FOSS dragan.f...@gmx.com wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd
  To: dng@lists.dyne.org
  Date: Thursday, January 8, 2015, 4:28 PM
 
 
  This is without ANYTHING systemd? Seems I remember some systemd stuff
 was still present on a previous release.
 
  golinux
 
 

 Yes, you are perfectly right...we forgot udev/systemd-udevd is still
 present in previous, and also in this release.
 For now, we can't rid of udev, but we do our best to change this.

 If you know how to help us with the correct solution that will immediately
 work correctly, you are very welcome to our community.


What about eudev?
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Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

2015-01-08 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
On 9 January 2015 at 01:59, Dragan FOSS dragan.f...@gmx.com wrote:

 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 at 3:38 AM
 From: Martinx - ジェームズ thiagocmarti...@gmail.com
 To: Dragan FOSS dragan.f...@gmx.com
 Cc: Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com, dng@lists.dyne.org 
 dng@lists.dyne.org
 Subject: Re: [Dng] Jessie without systemd

  If you know how to help us with the correct solution that will
 immediately work correctly, you are very welcome to our community.

  What about eudev?

 I don't know if eudev is successfully ported to debian to satisfy all
 dependencies?
 Let me remind you.. a lot of packages depends on udev, and without them we
 would get pretty unusable desktop.


From what I've read about `eudev`, it is a `systemd-udev` drop-in
replacement. Since it is a fork of systemd, just to take udev back, as
old days...

If `systemd-udev` is the only systemd-thing that your guys have left in
TRIOS, then, with `eudev`, you can kick `systemd` out of TRIOS easily.

It worth trying to package it in the same way we have `libudev1`,
`libudev-dev`, etc, but, from `eudev` sources... The programs that depends
on udev, will not see any difference (I believe).

Cheers!
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