Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with Devuan?
On 2020-11-29 21:26, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with > Devuan? As a bonus, has anyone gotten it to work without Pulseaudio? I set up an old Dell XPS desktop for a friend's son with Manjaro. I chose this because it was the only distro that came with the drivers "out of the box". The Dell has a GTX 460. Not the same, though, I think the drivers are the same. None of the recent drivers worked. I am not a gamer nor am I familiar with Nvidia binary blobs. Though I vaguley remember something about various open and closed source drivers that varying levels of feature support. The old 460 works well, but not with the recent drivers. I think those are for a different architecture - if you can call it that. You could install Manjaro and see what drivers they are using and install those on Devuan. For a bonus, check out mgame. That was how I found out that Nvidia drivers are included in Manjaro - amazing and a bit funny too. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with Devuan?
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 02:54:44 -0500, Steve wrote in message <20201203025444.38d57...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 12:43:23 -0500 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > From: Hendrik Boom > > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > > Subject: Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia > > GeForce gt 710 with Devuan? Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 12:43:23 -0500 > > Sender: "Dng" > > User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 12:26:05PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 05:10:29 -0500, Steve wrote in message > > > <20201130051029.510f1...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > > > > > > > On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:48:34 +0100 > > > > Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 > > > > > > with Devuan? As a bonus, has anyone gotten it to work > > > > > > without Pulseaudio? > > > > > > > > > > did you try nouveau? It is your only long-term hope, the short > > > > > term being using binary drivers. > > > > > > > > Yes. Works fairly well, but intermittently X just > > > > terminates. > > > > > > ..doing what, like X freezing and hangs the whole machine? > > > > I have something like that happening when the system runs out of > > memory. It becomes unresponsive to keyboard and mouse, and appears > > to freeze. > > This computer has 64GB of ram tested through a whole 4 hour pass of > memtest86, and htop shows it using next to none of that RAM. > > I'll tell you what: If it weren't for the video, this would be a > really kick ass machine. Its six cores map to 12 in htop and gkrellm. > Running Chromium with several youtube movies playing uses up maybe > 5%. On my current Daily Driver Desktop (DDD) such activities take > about 70% of the CPU. ..right, that means you can afford running a debug kernel as your dayly driver kernel on those 6 cores and find out WTF is going on. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with Devuan?
On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 12:43:23 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > From: Hendrik Boom > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce > gt 710 with Devuan? Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 12:43:23 -0500 > Sender: "Dng" > User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 12:26:05PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 05:10:29 -0500, Steve wrote in message > > <20201130051029.510f1...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > > > > > On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:48:34 +0100 > > > Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > Has anyone successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 > > > > > with Devuan? As a bonus, has anyone gotten it to work without > > > > > Pulseaudio? > > > > > > > > did you try nouveau? It is your only long-term hope, the short > > > > term being using binary drivers. > > > > > > Yes. Works fairly well, but intermittently X just terminates. > > > > ..doing what, like X freezing and hangs the whole machine? > > I have something like that happening when the system runs out of > memory. It becomes unresponsive to keyboard and mouse, and appears to > freeze. This computer has 64GB of ram tested through a whole 4 hour pass of memtest86, and htop shows it using next to none of that RAM. I'll tell you what: If it weren't for the video, this would be a really kick ass machine. Its six cores map to 12 in htop and gkrellm. Running Chromium with several youtube movies playing uses up maybe 5%. On my current Daily Driver Desktop (DDD) such activities take about 70% of the CPU. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with Devuan?
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 12:26:05PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 05:10:29 -0500, Steve wrote in message > <20201130051029.510f1...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > > > On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:48:34 +0100 > > Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > Has anyone successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with > > > > Devuan? As a bonus, has anyone gotten it to work without > > > > Pulseaudio? > > > > > > did you try nouveau? It is your only long-term hope, the short term > > > being using binary drivers. > > > > Yes. Works fairly well, but intermittently X just terminates. > > ..doing what, like X freezing and hangs the whole machine? I have something like that happening when the system runs out of memory. It becomes unresponsive to keyboard and mouse, and appears to freeze. Eventually it revers -- this can take many minutes. Maybe longer. I usually walk away and come back later if I don't feel like rebooting. As far as I can tell, the OOM killer struggles to get enough resource to decide which process to kill. Often if choses firefox-esr, which can have a lot of processes caled Web Content. Sometimes I can control-alt-F1 to a text console, which echoes keystrokes very slowly, and I can killall firefox-esr. > No response to keyboard input, while the mouse can still move, > but no button click response? button-click response is then also very slow, but does happen eventually. Too slow to know what got clicked on. -- hendrik > Try a RT kernel, and use it to enforce response deadlines. > I also found these RT kernels helps stop youtube video stuttering. > > > Of > > course, this could be a hardware problem, or a problem with who knows > > what, but it's a problem I need to fix before appointing this machine > > my new Daily Driver Desktop (DDD). Also, when I scroll, distortion > > occurs on the screen, > > ..tearing pictures triangularly across half the screen that you can > "fix" by selecting the area around said picture? > > ..looks like over-committed texture memory to me, I first saw that > kinda tearing in FlightGear a decade back when messing around to try > hike my framerate. > > > so I can't read while mousewheel scrolling. I > > didn't even know I did this until it the ability was taken away from > > me. > > > > > > > > I have a 7300 series card (so still 7 family, but older than yours) > > > and no way I can get it to work, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD all refuse > > > to show something. > > > > Remind me not to get one of them. > > > > Just in case, 24 hours ago I ordered a Radeon 5450 with 2GB RAM from > > Dell. If you guys haven't shopped at Dell, try it. They have *very* > > helpful chat people all hours of the day. I got my help at about 4am. > > My chat guy made sure I got what I wanted, when I wanted. Don't try > > that at Egghead, Walmart, Amazon, BH Photos and the like. Dell's price > > was on par with many, and lower than some. > > > > Thanks! > > > > SteveT > > > > Steve Litt > > Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive > > ___ > > Dng mailing list > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > > -- > ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen > ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... > Scenarios always come in sets of three: > best case, worst case, and just in case. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with Devuan?
On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 05:10:29 -0500, Steve wrote in message <20201130051029.510f1...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:48:34 +0100 > Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > Has anyone successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with > > > Devuan? As a bonus, has anyone gotten it to work without > > > Pulseaudio? > > > > did you try nouveau? It is your only long-term hope, the short term > > being using binary drivers. > > Yes. Works fairly well, but intermittently X just terminates. ..doing what, like X freezing and hangs the whole machine? No response to keyboard input, while the mouse can still move, but no button click response? Try a RT kernel, and use it to enforce response deadlines. I also found these RT kernels helps stop youtube video stuttering. > Of > course, this could be a hardware problem, or a problem with who knows > what, but it's a problem I need to fix before appointing this machine > my new Daily Driver Desktop (DDD). Also, when I scroll, distortion > occurs on the screen, ..tearing pictures triangularly across half the screen that you can "fix" by selecting the area around said picture? ..looks like over-committed texture memory to me, I first saw that kinda tearing in FlightGear a decade back when messing around to try hike my framerate. > so I can't read while mousewheel scrolling. I > didn't even know I did this until it the ability was taken away from > me. > > > > > I have a 7300 series card (so still 7 family, but older than yours) > > and no way I can get it to work, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD all refuse > > to show something. > > Remind me not to get one of them. > > Just in case, 24 hours ago I ordered a Radeon 5450 with 2GB RAM from > Dell. If you guys haven't shopped at Dell, try it. They have *very* > helpful chat people all hours of the day. I got my help at about 4am. > My chat guy made sure I got what I wanted, when I wanted. Don't try > that at Egghead, Walmart, Amazon, BH Photos and the like. Dell's price > was on par with many, and lower than some. > > Thanks! > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times > http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with Devuan?
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 19:48:34 +0100 Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > Steve Litt wrote: > > Has anyone successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with > > Devuan? As a bonus, has anyone gotten it to work without > > Pulseaudio? > > did you try nouveau? It is your only long-term hope, the short term > being using binary drivers. Yes. Works fairly well, but intermittently X just terminates. Of course, this could be a hardware problem, or a problem with who knows what, but it's a problem I need to fix before appointing this machine my new Daily Driver Desktop (DDD). Also, when I scroll, distortion occurs on the screen, so I can't read while mousewheel scrolling. I didn't even know I did this until it the ability was taken away from me. > > I have a 7300 series card (so still 7 family, but older than yours) > and no way I can get it to work, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD all refuse > to show something. Remind me not to get one of them. Just in case, 24 hours ago I ordered a Radeon 5450 with 2GB RAM from Dell. If you guys haven't shopped at Dell, try it. They have *very* helpful chat people all hours of the day. I got my help at about 4am. My chat guy made sure I got what I wanted, when I wanted. Don't try that at Egghead, Walmart, Amazon, BH Photos and the like. Dell's price was on par with many, and lower than some. Thanks! SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with Devuan?
Hi Steve, On Sun, 2020-11-29 at 07:26 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with > Devuan? As a bonus, has anyone gotten it to work without Pulseaudio? > Yes, I have a NVIDIA GT710B (GK208) and it's working with the Nvidia driver (418.152.00-1 metapackage) on Beowulf. As I recall it also worked with the nouveau driver when I initially installed it. There /is/ an issue with nvidia-persistenced. If you don't want CUDA then the simplest solution is to remove it. I also have produced a fixed version of /etc/init/nvidia-persistenced that solves the problem. I /do/ have pulseaudio installed, and it sees the included HDMI soundcard, however I've never tried to use it: my monitor doesn't include sound and I use a USB DAC/Class D Amplifier and loudspeakers. -- Marjorie ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with Devuan?
Hi, Steve Litt wrote: > Has anyone successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with > Devuan? As a bonus, has anyone gotten it to work without Pulseaudio? did you try nouveau? It is your only long-term hope, the short term being using binary drivers. I have a 7300 series card (so still 7 family, but older than yours) and no way I can get it to work, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD all refuse to show something. Devuan with nouveau came closest by detecting the card ans showing X11 with correct colors, icons but the HW cursor was completely bad and also certain text would not display, other yes. I did not try tweaking further parameters, since my goal was to run something different than Devuan itself, I just tried as a reference. Riccardo ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with Devuan?
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 07:26:58 -0500, Steve wrote in message <20201129072658.78218...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > Hi all, > > Has anyone successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with > Devuan? As a bonus, has anyone gotten it to work without Pulseaudio? ..no Nvidia GeForce GT 710 here, but do try the nouveau driver, the 710 is 6 years old and should work right away on the nouveau driver. ..my Dell Precision M4400 has a Quadro FX 770M on the nouveau driver, I run X at 1920x1200 @ 59.97*+: *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: G96GLM [Quadro FX 770M] vendor: NVIDIA Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:01:00.0 version: a1 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0 resources: irq:33 memory:f500-f5ff memory:e000-efff memory:f200-f3ff ioport:df00(size=128) memory:c-d ..my first experience with Nividea was buying a 2'hand Radeon HD 4890 that needed a 8 pin power wire, so I had to make do with a GTS 250 that came with the Radeon to fill up the box, the 250 came bang right up, with the nouveau driver, at 2048x1536 AFAIR, and I even had FlightGear going at a flyable 7 to 15 fps clip. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Anybody successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with Devuan?
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 07:26:58 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone successfully worked with an Nvidia GeForce gt 710 with > Devuan? As a bonus, has anyone gotten it to work without Pulseaudio? > > Thanks, > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times > http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive Hi, i have a VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 610] running with xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, works fine (also with pulsaudio). Ciao, Tito ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
