Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-12 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 12:12:32PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > $ w
> > 01:55:37 up 4 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.21, 0.19, 0.09
> > USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
> > user   :0.0 :0.0 01:51   ?xdm?  47.32s  0.24s
> > x-session-manager

Didier,

Having looked at this some more, whilst I agree that the w output of ?xdm? is
ugly, I think it is correct. You can only get the correct idle time for X with
xprintidle. The value derived from utmp can never be correct.

Mark
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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-10 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 02:03:11AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> On 3/8/19 10:04 PM, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > Would people who are experiencing missing slim utmp entries mind trying 
> > again
> > with the following configuration added to /etc/slim.conf, please?
> > 
> > sessionstop_cmd exec /usr/bin/sessreg -d -l $DISPLAY %user
> > sessionstart_cmd exec /usr/bin/sessreg -a -l $DISPLAY %user
> > 
> > If you don't have the sessreg command it is in the package 
> > x11-xserver-utils.
> 
> just tried that. results :

Thanks very much

> $ w
> 01:55:37 up 4 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.21, 0.19, 0.09
> USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
> user   :0.0 :0.0 01:51   ?xdm?  47.32s  0.24s
> x-session-manager
> 
> 
> $ lastlog -u user
> Username Port From Latest
> user   :0.0  Sun Mar 10 01:51:53 +0200 2019
> 
> 
> lastlog updated with this change as well. tty doesn't seem right, ":0.0"
> instead of "tty7" (?) and IDLE in w is wrong.

Yes, I had noticed the w ?xdm?. This is a bug in sessreg that I am patching
now. sessreg only recongnises :0 at the moment. :0.0 or any other numbers don't
work!

But the functionality in slim is basically right, I think.

I will have to send the sessreg patch to Debian unless we are prepared to fork
x11-server-utils.

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-09 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 3/8/19 10:04 PM, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Would people who are experiencing missing slim utmp entries mind trying again
> with the following configuration added to /etc/slim.conf, please?
> 
> sessionstop_cmd exec /usr/bin/sessreg -d -l $DISPLAY %user
> sessionstart_cmd exec /usr/bin/sessreg -a -l $DISPLAY %user
> 
> If you don't have the sessreg command it is in the package x11-xserver-utils.

just tried that. results :

$ last  user
user   :0.0 :0.0 Sun Mar 10 01:51   still logged in
user   tty7 :0   Sun Mar 10 01:04 - 01:06  (00:02)
user   tty7 :0   Sat Mar  9 10:48 - down   (06:17)
...
...

$ w
01:55:37 up 4 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.21, 0.19, 0.09
USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
user   :0.0 :0.0 01:51   ?xdm?  47.32s  0.24s
x-session-manager


$ lastlog -u user
Username Port From Latest
user   :0.0  Sun Mar 10 01:51:53 +0200 2019


lastlog updated with this change as well. tty doesn't seem right, ":0.0"
instead of "tty7" (?) and IDLE in w is wrong.

thx,
d.



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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-09 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 08:37:03 +0100
aitor_czr  wrote:

> My latest image of gnuinos beowulf (not uploaded yet) waits for a 
> keyboard press event during live boots.


If openssh-server is installed, it's waiting for entropy. Install
haveged and make sure it starts before ssh. I made a modified
live-config script for this, but you already said you're not using
live-config.

If it's waiting for an ethernet connection, there's a patch floating
around. I have a copy around here somewhere. Let me know if you want it.

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-09 Thread aitor_czr

Hi,

On 9/3/19 8:37, aitor_czr wrote:
My latest image of gnuinos beowulf (not uploaded yet) waits for a 
keyboard press event during live boots.
I'm still not sure if this is related with the new version of slim. 
I'll check it soon. Another possible cause might be
the non configured live-config scripts. Daniel Baumann would throw up 
his arms, but i always use a very simple script for that

because it just worked for me during years.

Cheers,

Aitor.


Here you are the script:

groupadd $user
/usr/sbin/useradd --home /home/$user --create-home --gid $user $user

sed -i "s/^${user}:x/${user}:/g" /etc/passwd

tmp_shadow=`cat /etc/shadow`
rm -f /etc/shadow
for line in $tmp_shadow; do
    if echo "$line" | grep -o "^${user}:"; then
        line=`echo $line | sed -e "s/[\/,\.]//g"`
        hash=`echo $line | cut -d ":" -f 2,3,4,5,6,7,8`
    fi
    echo "$line" >> /etc/shadow
done

sed -i "s/$hash//g" /etc/shadow
sed -i '25i $user ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL' /etc/sudoers

A welcome screen will ask for optional passwords for both the regular 
user and root.


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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-08 Thread aitor_czr

Hi,

On 7/3/19 14:31, KatolaZ wrote:

On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 08:13:01AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:

Is beowulf already in a state where it is generally useable for an ordinary
user on a laptop?  Except maybe a few quirks like the one we're now
debugging?  If so I'll upgrade soon and look for problems.  I'd prefer not
to have to downgrade or reinstall if my system becomes unusable.


Define "ordinary user on a laptop". I have been using beowulf since
about 8 months ago on my laptop, and haven't experience any major
breakage (but I should probably also definne "major breakage"
here). My impression is that beowulf is pretty usable, but I am not
running a DE so my experience does not cover session-related automagic
goodies.

It would be great if more people would actually move on beowulf as
soon as possible, so that we can identify as many glitches as possible
and put together a beta of beowulf.

HND

KatolaZ
My latest image of gnuinos beowulf (not uploaded yet) waits for a 
keyboard press event during live boots.
I'm still not sure if this is related with the new version of slim. I'll 
check it soon. Another possible cause might be
the non configured live-config scripts. Daniel Baumann would throw up 
his arms, but i always use a very simple script for that

because it just worked for me during years.

Cheers,

Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-08 Thread Mark Hindley
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 08:31:33AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> So, apparently 'slim' since long ago believes something else is
> responsible for registring the session(s), but that something else
> doesn't agree.

Would people who are experiencing missing slim utmp entries mind trying again
with the following configuration added to /etc/slim.conf, please?

sessionstop_cmd exec /usr/bin/sessreg -d -l $DISPLAY %user
sessionstart_cmd exec /usr/bin/sessreg -a -l $DISPLAY %user

If you don't have the sessreg command it is in the package x11-xserver-utils.

Thanks

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):

> Is beowulf already in a state where it is generally useable for an ordinary 
> user on a laptop?

Simple solution:  Define yourself to be extraordinary.  ;->

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 02:31:06PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 08:13:01AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> 
> [cut]
> 
> > 
> > Is beowulf already in a state where it is generally useable for an ordinary 
> > user on a laptop?  Except maybe a few quirks like the one we're now 
> > debugging?  If so I'll upgrade soon and look for problems.  I'd prefer not 
> > to have to downgrade or reinstall if my system becomes unusable.
> >
> 
> Define "ordinary user on a laptop". I have been using beowulf since
> about 8 months ago on my laptop, and haven't experience any major
> breakage (but I should probably also definne "major breakage"
> here). My impression is that beowulf is pretty usable, but I am not
> running a DE so my experience does not cover session-related automagic
> goodies.

That's good enough for me.  Thanks.

> 
> It would be great if more people would actually move on beowulf as
> soon as possible, so that we can identify as many glitches as possible
> and put together a beta of beowulf.

I plan to upgrade this weekend.

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Dimitris via Dng

>> You are right that elogind doesn't seem to be updating lastlog.

submitted bug report #302 minutes ago.

thanks,
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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 08:13:01AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:

[cut]

> 
> Is beowulf already in a state where it is generally useable for an ordinary 
> user on a laptop?  Except maybe a few quirks like the one we're now 
> debugging?  If so I'll upgrade soon and look for problems.  I'd prefer not 
> to have to downgrade or reinstall if my system becomes unusable.
>

Define "ordinary user on a laptop". I have been using beowulf since
about 8 months ago on my laptop, and haven't experience any major
breakage (but I should probably also definne "major breakage"
here). My impression is that beowulf is pretty usable, but I am not
running a DE so my experience does not cover session-related automagic
goodies.

It would be great if more people would actually move on beowulf as
soon as possible, so that we can identify as many glitches as possible
and put together a beta of beowulf.

HND

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 01:58:03PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Thursday 07 March 2019 at 13:27:10, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:43:05AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> > > 
> > > Does anyone else have bogus 'w'/'last' reports?
> > 
> > How does one obtain 'w'/'last' reports?
> 
> 1. Type "w"; you should get something like:
> 
> # w
>  12:55:35 up  2:22,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.11
> USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
> root pts/0xdsl-78-34-235-1 10:330.00s  0.01s  0.00s w
> 
> 2. Type "last"; you should get something like:
> 
> # last
> root pts/1198.51.100.56 Thu Mar  7 12:04 - 12:05  (00:00)
> root pts/0xdsl-78-34-235-1 Thu Mar  7 10:33   still logged in   
> reboot   system boot  3.2.0-5-amd64Thu Mar  7 10:33 - 12:56  (02:22)
> root pts/0xdsl-78-34-235-1 Thu Mar  7 10:08 - 10:31  (00:23)
> root pts/0xdsl-78-34-235-1 Thu Feb 28 16:22 - 11:20 (2+18:58)   
> 
Yes, that's the kind of stuff I see, though I get a few more messages about
the reboots I did.  So it works on ascii.  But that was never in doubt, was it?
And I'm using lightdm.

Is beowulf already in a state where it is generally useable for an ordinary 
user on a laptop?  Except maybe a few quirks like the one we're now 
debugging?  If so I'll upgrade soon and look for problems.  I'd prefer not 
to have to downgrade or reinstall if my system becomes unusable.

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 07 March 2019 at 13:27:10, Hendrik Boom wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:43:05AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> > 
> > Does anyone else have bogus 'w'/'last' reports?
> 
> How does one obtain 'w'/'last' reports?

1. Type "w"; you should get something like:

# w
 12:55:35 up  2:22,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.11
USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
root pts/0xdsl-78-34-235-1 10:330.00s  0.01s  0.00s w

2. Type "last"; you should get something like:

# last
root pts/1198.51.100.56 Thu Mar  7 12:04 - 12:05  (00:00)
root pts/0xdsl-78-34-235-1 Thu Mar  7 10:33   still logged in   
reboot   system boot  3.2.0-5-amd64Thu Mar  7 10:33 - 12:56  (02:22)
root pts/0xdsl-78-34-235-1 Thu Mar  7 10:08 - 10:31  (00:23)
root pts/0xdsl-78-34-235-1 Thu Feb 28 16:22 - 11:20 (2+18:58)   


:)

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:43:05AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> 
> 
> KatolaZ wrote on 7/3/19 9:30 am:
> > Bug report to bugs.devuan.org, please. This is something we definitely
> > need to pin down and fix. Thanks Ralph!
> 
> Yes, though I just discovered it on my system, and whilst I believe it's
> a plain, dist-upgraded ascii with a well-defined couple of variations,
> I've also "fixed things"(tm).
> 
> Does anyone else have bogus 'w'/'last' reports?

How does one obtain 'w'/'last' reports?

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 3/7/19 11:38 AM, Mark Hindley wrote:
> You are right that elogind doesn't seem to be updating lastlog.

too busy right now, will file this bug report later today if nobody else
does.

thanks,
d



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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng


Mark Hindley wrote on 7/3/19 8:38 pm:

> Thanks for these reports. I think there are 2 separate things going on here:
> 
> You are right that elogind doesn't seem to be updating lastlog.
> 
> I think this is a different issue from the slim logins not being
> registered. This seems to be long standing and unreleated to 
> elogind/consolekit.
> 
> I can reproduce both.
> 
> Would you open separate bugs please?

I'm lodging one about 'slim logins not being registered' right now...

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Mark Hindley
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 11:07:41AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> On 3/7/19 2:00 AM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote:
> > 
> > I get nothing listed when running 'w' and 'who'. Checking output of 'last' 
> > shows the reboot time correctly but my slim login doesn’t appear at all.
> 
> same here. w used to work with lightdm. tty logins still show normally.
> also tried with procps/ceres (downgrade from beowulf), but that made no
> difference.
> 
> lastlog also doesn't show any user logins since 30/1.. (right after
> policykit upgrade -
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20190131.103118.c6fc512b.en.html )
> policykit installed version : 0.105-25+devuan1
> elogind installed version : 239.3+20190131-1
> 
> is there a bug report for this yet?
> (will probably try consolekit again, just to check if it makes any
> difference)

Thanks for these reports. I think there are 2 separate things going on here:

You are right that elogind doesn't seem to be updating lastlog.

I think this is a different issue from the slim logins not being
registered. This seems to be long standing and unreleated to elogind/consolekit.

I can reproduce both.

Would you open separate bugs please?

Thanks

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
Further on this:

I've also got a dist-upgraded beowulf with a no-install-recommends
installation of task-xfce-desktop, and this one is fine wrt 'w'/'last'
report for slim using consolekt, and still fine when I downgraded
consolekit to the ascii version. The newest 'slim' is fine btw.

A little bit of digging tells me that my laptop has XDG_SESSION_COOKIE
set which my beowulf VM doesn't. That difference might be enough to
steer things differently for /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90consolekit, which (by
guesswork) has a significant decision point about the session startup.
Basically, X startup only runs /usr/bin/ck-launch-session if the
variable is unset (at that time).

Someone who knows stuff might kindly pull me right, but now I'm chasing
the reason why may latop gets XDG_SESSION_COOKIE set (while my beowulf
VM doesn't)...

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 11:07:41AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> On 3/7/19 2:00 AM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote:
> > 
> > I get nothing listed when running 'w' and 'who'. Checking output of 'last' 
> > shows the reboot time correctly but my slim login doesn’t appear at all.
> 
> same here. w used to work with lightdm. tty logins still show normally.
> also tried with procps/ceres (downgrade from beowulf), but that made no
> difference.
> 
> lastlog also doesn't show any user logins since 30/1.. (right after
> policykit upgrade -
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20190131.103118.c6fc512b.en.html )
> policykit installed version : 0.105-25+devuan1
> elogind installed version : 239.3+20190131-1
> 
> is there a bug report for this yet?
> (will probably try consolekit again, just to check if it makes any
> difference)

Could somebody plese file a bug report on bugs.devuan.org?

Thanks

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 3/7/19 2:00 AM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote:
> 
> I get nothing listed when running 'w' and 'who'. Checking output of 'last' 
> shows the reboot time correctly but my slim login doesn’t appear at all.

same here. w used to work with lightdm. tty logins still show normally.
also tried with procps/ceres (downgrade from beowulf), but that made no
difference.

lastlog also doesn't show any user logins since 30/1.. (right after
policykit upgrade -
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20190131.103118.c6fc512b.en.html )
policykit installed version : 0.105-25+devuan1
elogind installed version : 239.3+20190131-1

is there a bug report for this yet?
(will probably try consolekit again, just to check if it makes any
difference)


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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-06 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng

> Yes, though I just discovered it on my system, and whilst I believe it's
> a plain, dist-upgraded ascii with a well-defined couple of variations,
> I've also "fixed things"(tm).
> 
> Does anyone else have bogus 'w'/'last' reports?

I’m running consolekit with lightdm on a regular ascii.

I just installed slim alongside lightdm and set it as default. Rebooted and 
logged in via slim.

I get nothing listed when running 'w' and 'who'. Checking output of 'last' 
shows the reboot time correctly but my slim login doesn’t appear at all.

I switched back to lightdm and I see my user appearing in the output of both 
'w' and 'who'.  The 'last' output also shows my lightdm login from tty7.

I should note that this login account comes from winbind, but I don’t think 
that should be affecting this at all?

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-06 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng


KatolaZ wrote on 7/3/19 9:30 am:
> Bug report to bugs.devuan.org, please. This is something we definitely
> need to pin down and fix. Thanks Ralph!

Yes, though I just discovered it on my system, and whilst I believe it's
a plain, dist-upgraded ascii with a well-defined couple of variations,
I've also "fixed things"(tm).

Does anyone else have bogus 'w'/'last' reports?

Ralph.
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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-06 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 08:31:33AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:

[cut]

> 
> So, apparently 'slim' since long ago believes something else is
> responsible for registring the session(s), but that something else
> doesn't agree. Maybe that's down to 'consolekit', then?
> 
> A fantastic opportunity for me to gain some "new" knowledge, that I ran
> into by accident :)
>

Bug report to bugs.devuan.org, please. This is something we definitely
need to pin down and fix. Thanks Ralph!

HND

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-06 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng


Mark Hindley wrote on 6/3/19 8:10 pm:
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 08:00:06PM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>> Hmm .. a reboot sorted it(?) I had "0 users" before, but now I'm counted.
> 
> Good!

I was too fast: I'm still getting the 'w' report:
--
 08:06:53 up 0 min,  0 users,  load average: 0.29, 0.08, 0.02
USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
--
(I was logged in on tty1 and confused myself before)

Likewise, 'last' tells about reboot and tty1 login(s) but not my 'slim'
logins.

But, it seems unrelated to the update, since I getting the same with the
previous slim distributions as well; I returned to 1.3.6-5.1+devuan2
just to verify, and I've now also gone "back" to 1.3.6-5+devuan4, which
'apt-cache policy slim' claims is the jessie version; the 'w' report
stays the same (also after reboots).

So, apparently 'slim' since long ago believes something else is
responsible for registring the session(s), but that something else
doesn't agree. Maybe that's down to 'consolekit', then?

A fantastic opportunity for me to gain some "new" knowledge, that I ran
into by accident :)

Ralph.
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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-06 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 08:00:06PM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> Hmm .. a reboot sorted it(?) I had "0 users" before, but now I'm counted.

Good!

> I pulled in the updated slim (downgrade) into my ASCII laptop, and is
> using consolekit (and xfce4), so maybe this is not a useful test at all.

No, it was really useful. I mainly test with elogind so reports of working with
consolekit is very helpful.

Thanks

Mark
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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-06 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
Hmm .. a reboot sorted it(?) I had "0 users" before, but now I'm counted.

I pulled in the updated slim (downgrade) into my ASCII laptop, and is
using consolekit (and xfce4), so maybe this is not a useful test at all.
Sorry for the noise. (It seems though the required libfontconfig1
upgrade was an improvement; so I'll keep this).

Ralph.

Mark Hindley wrote on 6/3/19 7:06 pm:
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 01:38:39PM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>> slim doesn't seem to update /var/run/utmp and /var/log/wtmp anymore?
>> At least, I found 'sessreg' being commented out in /etc/slim.conf
>> Or is that me having done sleep-editing (again) maybe.
>> (My 'w' report is total nonsense, although that'd be 'procps' rather
>> than slim I suppose)
> 
> Thanks for testing.
> 
> I don't see this -- last and w output sane data.
> 
> Are you using consolekit2 or elogind?
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-06 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 01:38:39PM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> slim doesn't seem to update /var/run/utmp and /var/log/wtmp anymore?
> At least, I found 'sessreg' being commented out in /etc/slim.conf
> Or is that me having done sleep-editing (again) maybe.
> (My 'w' report is total nonsense, although that'd be 'procps' rather
> than slim I suppose)

Thanks for testing.

I don't see this -- last and w output sane data.

Are you using consolekit2 or elogind?

Mark
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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-05 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
slim doesn't seem to update /var/run/utmp and /var/log/wtmp anymore?
At least, I found 'sessreg' being commented out in /etc/slim.conf
Or is that me having done sleep-editing (again) maybe.
(My 'w' report is total nonsense, although that'd be 'procps' rather
than slim I suppose)

Ralph

Mark Hindley wrote on 5/3/19 11:30 pm:
> Hello,
> 
> We have a new version of slim in experimental (1.3.6-5+devuan6). It has been
> changed so that it now works with either elogind or consolekit2. It would be a
> great help to have it tested before it moves into ceres/beowulf.
> 
> All reports of problems or success gratefully received.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Mark
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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-05 Thread Clarke Sideroad via Dng

Rebooted to experimental slim, shut down and rebooted again just to see.
AMD64 hardware, beowulf/ceres, elogind, lxqt.

All seems to be running well for me, so a thumbs up from this seat.

Clarke
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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-05 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 3/5/19 2:30 PM, Mark Hindley wrote:
> All reports of problems or success gratefully received.

just rebooted,
slim/experimental + elogind + MATE beowulf/ceres, reporting success :)
no issues so far, everything looks normal. (using lightdm before.)

thx,
d.



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Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-05 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 12:30:02PM +, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> We have a new version of slim in experimental (1.3.6-5+devuan6). It has been
> changed so that it now works with either elogind or consolekit2. It would be a
> great help to have it tested before it moves into ceres/beowulf.
> 
> All reports of problems or success gratefully received.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 

Please everyone using a DE in Beowulf/Ceres, help testing that
package. Just add the experimental repo, get the package, and report
problems on bugs.devuan.org.

If you were asking youself what you could to help Devuan, well,
testing stuff can be one of the answers, and is a very important
contribution.

We are d1rs, and we will get there, won't we? ;P

HND

KatolaZ

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