Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[al3xu5 via Dng]

Mon, 3 Jan 2022 22:02:48 +0100 - aitor :

> Hi,
> 
> On 3/1/22 12:05, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:
> > After upgraded to Chimaera, I wsa able to install snetaid .deb
> > packets without problems.
> >
> > It seems it works as expected.
> >
> > Many thanks Aitor!  
> 
> Good :)
> 
> > PS:  I would also kindly ask you for information on the status of
> > simple-netaid-gtk
> >
> > Thanks again  
> 
> I do not dare giving a precise date for the packages of the gtk
> interface, because there are also other key-areas on which i would like
> to spend my time, such as vdev or the live-sdk documentation, among
> others. Even though, if it appears to be a widespread desire on
> prioritize any of these concrete areas, it could be carred out in the
> short term.

The snetaid gtk inteface would be nice, but certainly not urgent.


> Cheers, and thanks for your interest!

Thanks to you.
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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[aitor]

On 3/1/22 22:02, aitor wrote:

it could be carred out in the short term.

*carried*
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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[aitor]

Hi,

On 3/1/22 12:05, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:

After upgraded to Chimaera, I wsa able to install snetaid .deb
packets without problems.

It seems it works as expected.

Many thanks Aitor!


Good :)


PS:  I would also kindly ask you for information on the status of
simple-netaid-gtk

Thanks again


I do not dare giving a precise date for the packages of the gtk interface,
because there are also other key-areas on which i would like to spend my time,
such as vdev or the live-sdk documentation, among others. Even though, if it
appears to be a widespread desire on prioritize any of these concrete areas,
it could be carred out in the short term.

Cheers, and thanks for your interest!

Aitor.



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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[al3xu5 via Dng]

Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:32:45 +0100 - al3xu5 via Dng :

> Mon, 22 Nov 2021 01:38:54 +0100 - aitor :
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 6/11/21 10:36, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:  
> > > I tried to install the new packages on Beowulf:

[...]

> I will retry after upgrading to Chimaera...


After upgraded to Chimaera, I wsa able to install snetaid .deb
packets without problems.

It seems it works as expected.

Many thanks Aitor!


PS:  I would also kindly ask you for information on the status of
simple-netaid-gtk 

Thanks again 


al3xu5

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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[aitor]

Hi Edward,

On 11/23/21 10:22 PM, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:

Dear Aitor,
There are no hard feelings from me, notwithstanding my project is now
defunct. I would like to thank you for adopting it in your own way to
modernise it so that it can be secure and enjoyed by everyone.
Sincerily, thanks for all your time and dedication. Thanks to Devuan,
I am using what was known as Debian without the burden of systemd.


You gave me the base to work upon. Didier Kryn also gave me some good ideas
working on hopman that have been really useful for simple-netaid.



As you clearly indicate, the old version uses an SUID executable to
get root privileges which is a security hole which Devuan did very
well to close, even though it broke my latest version of
simple-netaid-*. In my limited use case, I worked around the breakage
by removing the GUI component and using only the backend as root. It
works in my case, but other users may require more functionality,
which thanks to people like you, they can have. Sincerily, THANKS for
your time and effort.


Now the shared library sends a signal to the daemon as a reminder
for client connection requests to be listened to on the server socket.
The cap_kill linux capability allows the shared library to send this signal
to the daemon (a process running with root privilegies) and be successful.
And last the daemon gets the credentials from the received data before
going ahead with the task requested. Have a look at read_arguments() in
snetaid (lines 1056 - 1156):

https://gitea.devuan.dev/aitor_czr/snetaid/src/branch/master/src/main.c 




Regarding the idea of importing functionality from your libraries to
let my latest version of simple-netaid-* connect without the
requirement of an SUID tag, although it can be done, there is no need
for Devuan, as users can already use your project.


I'm a bit stubborn, though :)

Cheers,

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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[al3xu5 via Dng]

Mon, 22 Nov 2021 01:38:54 +0100 - aitor :

> Hi,
> 
> On 6/11/21 10:36, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:
> > I tried to install the new packages on Beowulf:
> >
> > - snetaid 1.0-1 package was installed, but I have:
> >
> > $ sudo service snetaid status
> > /usr/sbin/snetaid: error while loading shared libraries:
> > libnetaid.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> > directory
> >
> > - indeed when trying to install the libnetaid 1.0-1 I get a dependency
> >error being required libc6>=2.29 ...  
> 
> I've got the same error in Void Linux due to other reasons. Setting the
> environmental variable:
> 
> |export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu|
> 
> solved the issue, as you can see in the following screenshot:
> 
> https://www.gnuinos.org/simple-netaid/simple-netaid_voidlinux.png
> 

Thanks for the info. 

On my Beowulf system the path is `/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu` (without the
`/usr` part).

More, my issue is the libc6 version: I am still on Beowulf and libc6 is
2.28.


I will retry after upgrading to Chimaera...

Regards 

 
> However, simple-netaid is not working 100% in Void Linux yet, though
> there is not much left:
> 
> - Configure the runit scripts for snetaid in /etc/sv/snetaid.
> 
> - Install ifupdown, a runtime dependency.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Aitor.



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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[aitor]

Hi,

On 6/11/21 10:36, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:

I tried to install the new packages on Beowulf:

- snetaid 1.0-1 package was installed, but I have:

$ sudo service snetaid status
/usr/sbin/snetaid: error while loading shared libraries: libnetaid.so.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

- indeed when trying to install the libnetaid 1.0-1 I get a dependency
   error being required libc6>=2.29 ...


I've got the same error in Void Linux due to other reasons. Setting the 
environmental variable:

|export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu|

solved the issue, as you can see in the following screenshot:

https://www.gnuinos.org/simple-netaid/simple-netaid_voidlinux.png  


However, simple-netaid is not working 100% in Void Linux yet, though there is 
not much left:

- Configure the runit scripts for snetaid in /etc/sv/snetaid.

- Install ifupdown, a runtime dependency.

Cheers,

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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[aitor]

Hi,

On 6/11/21 10:36, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:

I tried to install the new packages on Beowulf:
- snetaid 1.0-1 package was istalled, but I have:

$ sudo service snetaid status
/usr/sbin/snetaid: error while loading shared libraries: libnetaid.so.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

- indeed when trying to install the libnetaid 1.0-1 I get a dependency
   error being required libc6>=2.29 ...

Since now I have no time to rebuild snetaid sources on Beowulf, I decided
to firstly migrate my system to Chimaera (as soon as possible) and then
"retry" to install snetaid...


Packages have been tested only in chimaera. Anyway, i'm doing some changes in 
the code right now.
Notably i'm removing a double usage of the netlink socket in the daemon [*], 
which makes it redundant
and quite confusing (the global design is still a bit confusing, i know).

On the other hand, i also decided to restart snetaid via [**]:

execv(argv[0], params);

during the connection attempts in order to be able to redirect stdout to 
another tty. I've not been
able to do this redirection after reopening stdin, stdout and stderr so that 
the daemon or its child
processes can detach succesfully from the tty:

stdin  = fopen("/dev/null", "r");
stdout = fopen("/dev/null", "w+");
stderr = fopen("/dev/null", "w+");

Any hints at this point?

As soon as i finish these changes, i'll build an iso image with the live-sdk 
including the packages.
I'll let you know.

Cheers, and thanks again for your interest!

Aitor.


[*] The first one when making use of select(); the second one when making use 
of recvmsg() in nl_monitor.
 
[**] I know the risks of doing this as root, but i'm doing this in a safe mode. Note that execv will restart

snetaid keeping the same pid.




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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[al3xu5 via Dng]

Tue, 2 Nov 2021 08:30:34 +0100 - aitor :

> Hi,
> 
> On 1/11/21 19:48, aitor wrote:
> 
> > The code of simple-netaid is ready to use:
> >

[...]

> Done:
> 
> https://www.gnuinos.org/simple-netaid/
> 


Hi aitor

Thank you a lot for your work. 


> Packages have been tested in a fresh install of devuan chimaera. The
> dependency on libpstat (Jude Nelson) might be replaced with pwdx
> (maybe...) Please, don't forget to configure
> your /etc/network/interfaces properly. 

I tried to install the new packages on Beowulf:

- snetaid 1.0-1 package was istalled, but I have:

$ sudo service snetaid status
/usr/sbin/snetaid: error while loading shared libraries: libnetaid.so.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

- indeed when trying to install the libnetaid 1.0-1 I get a dependency
  error being required libc6>=2.29 ...

Since now I have no time to rebuild snetaid sources on Beowulf, I decided
to firstly migrate my system to Chimaera (as soon as possible) and then
"retry" to install snetaid...


> Next packages will consist of a
> status icon in both Gtk and Qt. I have them working.

Great!!!


> Shortly i'll test simple-netaid in other distributions. Specially, I
> look forward to build packages for Void Linux, including also ifupdown
> -available in github for other distros, de(b|v)uan aside.
> 
> Feedback is welcome.
> 
> Cheers,


Best regards
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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[aitor]

Hi,

On 1/11/21 19:48, aitor wrote:


The code of simple-netaid is ready to use:


- libnetaid: the shared library
https://gitea.devuan.dev/aitor_czr/libnetaid/src/branch/gbp-master  

- snetaid: the daemon

https://gitea.devuan.dev/aitor_czr/snetaid/src/branch/gbp-master  

- simple-netaid-cdk: the ncurses interface

https://gitea.devuan.dev/aitor_czr/simple-netaid-cdk/src/branch/gbp-master  

Packages will be available in a few hours...
Sorry for the delay, and thanks for your interest in the project :)
Cheers,
Aitor.


Done:

https://www.gnuinos.org/simple-netaid/  

Packages have been tested in a fresh install of devuan chimaera. The dependency 
on libpstat (Jude Nelson)
might be replaced with pwdx (maybe...) Please, don't forget to configure your 
/etc/network/interfaces properly.
Next packages will consist of a status icon in both Gtk and Qt. I have them 
working.

Shortly i'll test simple-netaid in other distributions. Specially, I look 
forward to build packages for Void Linux,
including also ifupdown -available in github for other distros, de(b|v)uan 
aside.

Feedback is welcome.

Cheers,

Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[aitor]

Hi,

On 25/10/21 8:22, aitor wrote:


Yesterday night i pushed the new code to git. Packages of libnetaid, snetaid 
and simple-netaid-cdk
(still not updated in gitea.devuan.dev) for chimaera will be available in a 
couple of days.


The code of simple-netaid is ready to use:


- libnetaid: the shared library

https://gitea.devuan.dev/aitor_czr/libnetaid/src/branch/gbp-master  


- snetaid: the daemon

https://gitea.devuan.dev/aitor_czr/snetaid/src/branch/gbp-master  


- simple-netaid-cdk: the ncurses interface

https://gitea.devuan.dev/aitor_czr/simple-netaid-cdk/src/branch/gbp-master  


Packages will be available in a few hours...

Sorry for the delay, and thanks for your interest in the project :)

Cheers,

Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[aitor]

Hi,

On 19/10/21 21:26, aitor wrote:


Hi Edward,
On 18/10/21 17:53,goli...@devuan.org  wrote:

On 2021-10-18 10:07, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:

The name "snetaid" made me remember of my now defunct project.
Searching on the project's git repository I found it has been removed,
so, it is dead and forgotten.
Edward

Hi Edward,
Nice to see that you are still hanging around Devuan. When we moved from
gitlab to gitea, contributing developers were given multiple reminders
and ample time to migrate their projects to the new format. Many
projects fell by the wayside from lack of attention and action on the
part of their creators. Isn't Aitor's project based on your work? If so,
it is still alive and well

We are glad to see you here again!
Being about five years on from what was your simple-netaid project, which has 
substantially
evolved since then hoping that the outcome will be for the good of the project, 
the idea of
reviving both your backend and gui in free pascal, but this time drawn upon 
libnetaid and snetaid
(in replacement of the suid bit) is a challenge that might make this work more 
fun :)
Cheers,
Aitor.


Yesterday night i pushed the new code to git. Packages of libnetaid, snetaid 
and simple-netaid-cdk
(still not updated in gitea.devuan.dev) for chimaera will be available in a 
couple of days.

Cheers,

Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[Ismael L. Donis Garcia]

Greetings Steve.

I have recently decided to program in Lazarus and Firebird, which is a very 
good and free database manager.


If you want I can give you a hand on this issue. If so, you better throw me 
private since for this list it would be off topic.


You can see what I have done in the links below my signature.

Warm greetings
--
Ismael
Devuan User: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan
Web Site: 
https://gitlab.uic.cu/ismael.donis/sistema-de-contabilidad-general/

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- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Litt" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...



Edward Bartolo via Dng said on Tue, 19 Oct 2021 09:53:52 +0200


Hi Golinux,

If Devuan users have other alternatives to my project, it is a
pleasure to know.


Hi Edward,

I find your use of Lazarus interesting and would like to explore that
with you. I think a network-manager type thing is the wrong place for
Lazarus, but there are plenty of right ones. I'd love to do a Lazarus
app that connects to a database, with several tables. But I don't know
how.

The only Lazarus app I have is an alarm clock, which I might be able to
share with you if all my source is still present and accounted for.

Thanks,

SteveT

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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[Steve Litt]

Edward Bartolo via Dng said on Tue, 19 Oct 2021 09:53:52 +0200

>Hi Golinux,
>
>If Devuan users have other alternatives to my project, it is a
>pleasure to know. 

Hi Edward,

I find your use of Lazarus interesting and would like to explore that
with you. I think a network-manager type thing is the wrong place for
Lazarus, but there are plenty of right ones. I'd love to do a Lazarus
app that connects to a database, with several tables. But I don't know
how.

The only Lazarus app I have is an alarm clock, which I might be able to
share with you if all my source is still present and accounted for.

Thanks, 

SteveT

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Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques
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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[aitor]

Hi Edward,

On 18/10/21 17:53, goli...@devuan.org wrote:


On 2021-10-18 10:07, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:

The name "snetaid" made me remember of my now defunct project.
Searching on the project's git repository I found it has been removed,
so, it is dead and forgotten.
Edward

Hi Edward,
Nice to see that you are still hanging around Devuan. When we moved from
gitlab to gitea, contributing developers were given multiple reminders
and ample time to migrate their projects to the new format. Many
projects fell by the wayside from lack of attention and action on the
part of their creators. Isn't Aitor's project based on your work? If so,
it is still alive and well


We are glad to see you here again!

Being about five years on from what was your simple-netaid project, which has 
substantially
evolved since then hoping that the outcome will be for the good of the project, 
the idea of
reviving both your backend and gui in free pascal, but this time drawn upon 
libnetaid and snetaid
(in replacement of the suid bit) is a challenge that might make this work more 
fun :)

Cheers,

Aitor.

 

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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[golinux]

On 2021-10-18 10:07, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote:


The name "snetaid" made me remember of my now defunct project.
Searching on the project's git repository I found it has been removed,
so, it is dead and forgotten.

Edward



Hi Edward,

Nice to see that you are still hanging around Devuan. When we moved from 
gitlab to gitea, contributing developers were given multiple reminders 
and ample time to migrate their projects to the new format. Many 
projects fell by the wayside from lack of attention and action on the 
part of their creators. Isn't Aitor's project based on your work? If so, 
it is still alive and well!


Take care,
golinux
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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[aitor]

Hi,

On 16/10/21 12:35, al3xu5 wrote:

On 16/10/21 12:14, al3xu5 wrote:

Hi Aitor

As you know Wicd is no longer available in Bullseye / Chimaera.

I would like to upgrade to Chimaera eliminating Wicd (regardless of
whether it is not available), and I would like to use snetaid, which
seems to me to be a good alternative.

So I wondered if there are news on development, even about the GTK
interface.

Thanks
Reegrads

al3xu5

I've read the warning about the missing wicd in Chimaera and i want to
notice you that i've been working a lot on simple-netaid during these
last days. There will be a lot of new features, being the most important
of them the removal of the suid binary on the one hand, and the addition. I'm
of a netlink socket in the code of the daemon (snetaid) on the other,
making the ncurses interface reactive not only to the callbacks of the
interface itself, but also to any netlink event coming from foreign
processes, whether network managers or command line scripts. Packages
will be available soon, and i hope it won't take me more than one week.

That sounds great!!!
Thank you a lot.


The following video shows how snetaid reacts to other network-managers
(i used wicd for the demo) and also to shell commands. I'm still testing
it in order to find any possible segmentation fault. Shortly i'll push the
new code to gitea.

Here you are the link:

https://www.gnuinos.org/videos/simple-netaid-cdk-2021-10-17_23.56.04.mkv  


Cheers,

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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[al3xu5]

Sat, 16 Oct 2021 12:30:06 +0200 - aitor :

> Hi all,
> 
> On 16/10/21 12:14, al3xu5 wrote:
> > Hi Aitor
> >
> > As you know Wicd is no longer available in Bullseye / Chimaera.
> >
> > I would like to upgrade to Chimaera eliminating Wicd (regardless of
> > whether it is not available), and I would like to use snetaid, which
> > seems to me to be a good alternative.
> >
> > So I wondered if there are news on development, even about the GTK
> > interface.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Reegrads
> >
> > al3xu5  
> 
> I've read the warning about the missing wicd in Chimaera and i want to
> notice you that i've been working a lot on simple-netaid during these
> last days. There will be a lot of new features, being the most important
> of them the removal of the suid binary on the one hand, and the addition
> of a netlink socket in the code of the daemon (snetaid) on the other,
> making the ncurses interface reactive not only to the callbacks of the
> interface itself, but also to any netlink event coming from foreign
> processes, whether network managers or command line scripts. Packages
> will be available soon, and i hope it won't take me more than one week.

That sounds great!!!
Thank you a lot.

Regards
al3xu5

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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[aitor]

Hi all,

On 16/10/21 12:14, al3xu5 wrote:

Hi Aitor

As you know Wicd is no longer available in Bullseye / Chimaera.

I would like to upgrade to Chimaera eliminating Wicd (regardless of
whether it is not available), and I would like to use snetaid, which seems
to me to be a good alternative.

So I wondered if there are news on development, even about the GTK
interface.

Thanks
Reegrads

al3xu5


I've read the warning about the missing wicd in Chimaera and i want to notice 
you that
i've been working a lot on simple-netaid during these last days. There will be 
a lot of
new features, being the most important of them the removal of the suid binary 
on the
one hand, and the addition of a netlink socket in the code of the daemon 
(snetaid) on the other,
making the ncurses interface reactive not only to the callbacks of the 
interface itself,
but also to any netlink event coming from foreign processes, whether network 
managers
or command line scripts. Packages will be available soon, and i hope it won't 
take me more
than one week.

Cheer and thanks again for your work on Chimaera,

Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[al3xu5]

Sun, 22 Aug 2021 09:45:53 +0200 - aitor :

> Hi,
> 
> On 22/8/21 8:33, al3xu5 wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > I am running Devuan Beowulf && LXDE, and I want to try snetaid &&
> > simple-netaid-cdk || simple-netaid-gtk...  
> 
> Thanks for your interest on simple-netaid.
> 
> > I have found some debs are at:
> >
> > http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/s/
> >
> > Please, can anyone tell me if it's the right place?  
> 
> Yes, this is the right way and the last packaging.
> 
> 
> > Are that packages updated? Or is there a better way to install?  
> Though i'm rewriting it the above link is the stable release. Just 
> change in the line:
> 
> Exec=sakura -e "sudo simple-netaid-cdk"
> 
> of /usr/share/applications/simple-netaid-cdk, "sakura" by "lxterminal" 
> or "xterm"
> or whatever you want. There aren't packages for the gtk interface yet, 
> only ncurses.
> I'm rewriting the gtk interface and the snetaid daemon because i have 
> new ideas for the them.
> 
> Any doubt, please tell me.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Aitor.


Hi Aitor

As you know Wicd is no longer available in Bullseye / Chimaera.

I would like to upgrade to Chimaera eliminating Wicd (regardless of
whether it is not available), and I would like to use snetaid, which seems
to me to be a good alternative.

So I wondered if there are news on development, even about the GTK
interface.

Thanks 
Reegrads

al3xu5

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Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...

[aitor]

Hi,

On 22/8/21 8:33, al3xu5 wrote:

Hi all

I am running Devuan Beowulf && LXDE, and I want to try snetaid &&
simple-netaid-cdk || simple-netaid-gtk...


Thanks for your interest on simple-netaid.


I have found some debs are at:

http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/s/

Please, can anyone tell me if it's the right place?


Yes, this is the right way and the last packaging.



Are that packages updated? Or is there a better way to install?
Though i'm rewriting it the above link is the stable release. Just 
change in the line:


Exec=sakura -e "sudo simple-netaid-cdk"

of /usr/share/applications/simple-netaid-cdk, "sakura" by "lxterminal" 
or "xterm"
or whatever you want. There aren't packages for the gtk interface yet, 
only ncurses.
I'm rewriting the gtk interface and the snetaid daemon because i have 
new ideas for the them.


Any doubt, please tell me.

Cheers,

Aitor.


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