Re: [DNG] motherboard BIOS update
On 1/8/21 8:09 AM, Antony Stone wrote: On Friday 08 January 2021 at 15:43:37, Fred wrote: Is there a Devuan program that can update the motherboard BIOS? I don't do Windows. I can't imagine there being anything Devuan-specific for this sort of thing (ie: it'll either be standard Debian, or generic Linux), but to get a meaningful answer to the question the main bit of information you need to supply is "what make / model of motherboard". Antony. I don't understand what you mean. As far as I know one has to use Windows to update a BIOS. I bought a Gigabyte GA-H170-HD3 mb and an Intel i5-7500 CPU which is listed as compatible with that mb. Unfortunately that CPU requires F20 version BIOS and the mb came with F3. It will not run at all without F20. I will need to buy an older CPU that will work with F3 which will allow the computer to power up. If there is a Linux program to update the BIOS then I can install Devuan and then update. Otherwise I will still have to buy the old CPU and find someone that has a bootable Windows HD useable on the mb and have them update the BIOS. Best regards, Fred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] motherboard BIOS update
Hello, Is there a Devuan program that can update the motherboard BIOS? I don't do Windows. Best regards, Fred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] DeVuan deleted partitons table.
Hello. I had a very stange behaviour of DeVuan ssytem. -- I had MBR 3 TB HDD that worked well on old system with DDR RAM, LiLo booted the system. Then i moved the HDD to a bit newer system, with DDR2 RAM on the board. There system did boot, work well. Then, after normal shutdown, when i turned it on again, system did not boot! I checked the HDD w/ bootable CD and found that all partitions table was removed -- the HDD was as if never partitioned! What on the DeVuan system could do such an evil? Andrey. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] motherboard BIOS update
On 1/8/21 10:05 AM, ael wrote: On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 07:43:37AM -0700, Fred wrote: Is there a Devuan program that can update the motherboard BIOS? I don't do Windows. Maybe https://github.com/fwupd/fwupdi, https://fwupd.org/ ? From what I remember, it has a lot of limitations and requires the cooperation of the motherboard manufacturer. Presumably libreboot must include a something to write the BIOS. ael ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Hi, fwupd.org doesn't work with Gigabyte. Best regards, Fred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] DeVuan deleted partitons table.
On Friday 08 January 2021 at 15:48:31, А. Сорокин via Dng wrote: > I had a very stange behaviour of DeVuan ssytem. -- I had MBR 3 TB HDD > that worked well on old system with DDR RAM, LiLo booted the system. LiLo!? Wow. > Then i moved the HDD to a bit newer system, Still a pure Bios motherboard, or UEFI? > with DDR2 RAM on the board. There system did boot, work well. Then, after > normal shutdown, when i turned it on again, system did not boot! I checked > the HDD w/ bootable CD and found that all partitions table was removed -- > the HDD was as if never partitioned! What on the DeVuan system could do such > an evil? I can't suggest what might do that, but as a general suggestion I advise using GPT partitioning for anything >2Tbytes. Antony. -- Please apologise my errors, since I have a very small device. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] motherboard BIOS update
On Friday 08 January 2021 at 15:43:37, Fred wrote: > Is there a Devuan program that can update the motherboard BIOS? I don't > do Windows. I can't imagine there being anything Devuan-specific for this sort of thing (ie: it'll either be standard Debian, or generic Linux), but to get a meaningful answer to the question the main bit of information you need to supply is "what make / model of motherboard". Antony. -- Why is "dyslexia" so difficult to spell, and why can I never remember "aphasia" when I want to? Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] motherboard BIOS update
On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 07:43:37AM -0700, Fred wrote: > Is there a Devuan program that can update the motherboard BIOS? I don't do > Windows. Maybe https://github.com/fwupd/fwupdi, https://fwupd.org/ ? From what I remember, it has a lot of limitations and requires the cooperation of the motherboard manufacturer. Presumably libreboot must include a something to write the BIOS. ael ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] motherboard BIOS update
Am 8. Januar 2021 16:09:49 MEZ schrieb Antony Stone : > On Friday 08 January 2021 at 15:43:37, Fred wrote: > > > Is there a Devuan program that can update the motherboard BIOS? I don't > > do Windows. > > I can't imagine there being anything Devuan-specific for this sort of thing > (ie: it'll either be standard Debian, or generic Linux), but to get a > meaningful answer to the question the main bit of information you need to > supply is "what make / model of motherboard". > > > Antony. I usually use a FreeDOS image (if neccessary enlarged to fit the required binaries), dd'ed to a thumbdrive. libre Grüße, Florian -- [message sent otg] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Busy cursor icon in X session.
Hello. Once i saw in Ubuntu turning around two balls in X session instead of a watch icon when an application was started. How to install the same balls icon for the OpenBox session? Andrey. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] DeVuan deleted partitons table.
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 21:48:31 +0700 А. Сорокин via Dng wrote: > Hello. > > > I had a very stange behaviour of DeVuan ssytem. -- I had MBR 3 TB HDD > that worked well on old system with DDR RAM, LiLo booted the system. > Then i moved the HDD to a bit newer system, with DDR2 RAM on the > board. There system did boot, work well. Then, after normal shutdown, > when i turned it on again, system did not boot! I checked the HDD w/ > bootable CD and found that all partitions table was removed -- the > HDD was as if never partitioned! What on the DeVuan system could do > such an evil? I hope you got it recovered... if not: 'testdisk' is quite powerful! libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Busy cursor icon in X session.
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 21:54:49 +0700 А. Сорокин via Dng wrote: > Hello. > > > Once i saw in Ubuntu turning around two balls in X session instead of > a watch icon when an application was started. How to install the same > balls icon for the OpenBox session? On the Ubuntu system, I'd run $ cat ~/.icons/default/index.theme and/or $ /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme to identify the hairy (SCNR;) cursor theme and then try to match it against the output of $ apt-cache search cursor | grep theme to get its package name. libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] motherboard BIOS update
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:08:29 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 1/8/21 1:08 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > > On 08-01-2021 20:52, Fred wrote: > >> On 1/8/21 8:09 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > >>> On Friday 08 January 2021 at 15:43:37, Fred wrote: > >>> > Is there a Devuan program that can update the motherboard BIOS? > I don't > do Windows. > >>> > >>> I can't imagine there being anything Devuan-specific for this > >>> sort of thing > >>> (ie: it'll either be standard Debian, or generic Linux), but to > >>> get a meaningful answer to the question the main bit of > >>> information you need to > >>> supply is "what make / model of motherboard". > >>> > >>> > >>> Antony. > >>> > >> I don't understand what you mean. As far as I know one has to use > >> Windows to update a BIOS. > >> > >> I bought a Gigabyte GA-H170-HD3 mb and an Intel i5-7500 CPU which > >> is listed as compatible with that mb. Unfortunately that CPU > >> requires F20 version BIOS and the mb came with F3. It will not > >> run at all without F20. I will need to buy an older CPU that will > >> work with F3 which will allow the computer to power up. If there > >> is a Linux program to update the BIOS then I can install Devuan > >> and then update. Otherwise I will still have to buy the old CPU > >> and find someone that has a bootable Windows HD useable on the mb > >> and have them update the BIOS. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Fred > >> ___ > >> Dng mailing list > >> Dng@lists.dyne.org > >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > > > You do not need Windows to update a BIOS on a Gigabyte mb but can > > use Q-Flash from BIOS instead. Too bad you still need a working > > processor and memory to make this work. Your motherboard does not > > support Q-Flash Plus with which you even do not need a processor to > > update the BIOS. > > > > Grtz. > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > ___ > > Dng mailing list > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > > Hi Nick, > The Gigabyte web site Q-Flash instructions say it needs a USB-floppy I suspect an OR is implied as in USB or floppy. > device. Do you know if it will work with a USB flash drive instead? It should. > And which USB port is to be used? Try them in order. Ref manual? > The update is a zip file. Does it > need to be unzipped first? Probably. > I have ordered a CPU that supposedly will > work with the existing F3 BIOS. Unfortunately it cost $120. FWIW, I stopped using gigabyte mobos years(decade?) ago as their attitude to Linux was unhelpful. YMMV, but I also found them to suffer short lives. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] motherboard BIOS update
On 08-01-2021 22:08, Fred wrote: > On 1/8/21 1:08 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: >> On 08-01-2021 20:52, Fred wrote: >>> On 1/8/21 8:09 AM, Antony Stone wrote: On Friday 08 January 2021 at 15:43:37, Fred wrote: > Is there a Devuan program that can update the motherboard BIOS? I > don't > do Windows. I can't imagine there being anything Devuan-specific for this sort of thing (ie: it'll either be standard Debian, or generic Linux), but to get a meaningful answer to the question the main bit of information you need to supply is "what make / model of motherboard". Antony. >>> I don't understand what you mean. As far as I know one has to use >>> Windows to update a BIOS. >>> >>> I bought a Gigabyte GA-H170-HD3 mb and an Intel i5-7500 CPU which is >>> listed as compatible with that mb. Unfortunately that CPU requires >>> F20 version BIOS and the mb came with F3. It will not run at all >>> without F20. I will need to buy an older CPU that will work with F3 >>> which will allow the computer to power up. If there is a Linux >>> program to update the BIOS then I can install Devuan and then update. >>> Otherwise I will still have to buy the old CPU and find someone that >>> has a bootable Windows HD useable on the mb and have them update the >>> BIOS. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Fred >>> ___ >>> Dng mailing list >>> Dng@lists.dyne.org >>> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng >> >> You do not need Windows to update a BIOS on a Gigabyte mb but can use >> Q-Flash from BIOS instead. Too bad you still need a working processor >> and memory to make this work. Your motherboard does not support Q-Flash >> Plus with which you even do not need a processor to update the BIOS. >> >> Grtz. >> >> Nick >> >> >> >> ___ >> Dng mailing list >> Dng@lists.dyne.org >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng >> > Hi Nick, > The Gigabyte web site Q-Flash instructions say it needs a USB-floppy > device. Do you know if it will work with a USB flash drive instead? > And which USB port is to be used? The update is a zip file. Does it > need to be unzipped first? I have ordered a CPU that supposedly will > work with the existing F3 BIOS. Unfortunately it cost $120. > > Best regards, > Fred > > Hi Fred, Any USB disk device should work. As a precaution you could use a USB2 port. You have to unzip the file to the USB device to let the BIOS find the file with the new version. $120 is a lot of money hopefully you can sell it after the upgrade. Grtz. Nick signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] motherboard BIOS update
On 08-01-2021 20:52, Fred wrote: > On 1/8/21 8:09 AM, Antony Stone wrote: >> On Friday 08 January 2021 at 15:43:37, Fred wrote: >> >>> Is there a Devuan program that can update the motherboard BIOS? I >>> don't >>> do Windows. >> >> I can't imagine there being anything Devuan-specific for this sort of >> thing >> (ie: it'll either be standard Debian, or generic Linux), but to get a >> meaningful answer to the question the main bit of information you >> need to >> supply is "what make / model of motherboard". >> >> >> Antony. >> > I don't understand what you mean. As far as I know one has to use > Windows to update a BIOS. > > I bought a Gigabyte GA-H170-HD3 mb and an Intel i5-7500 CPU which is > listed as compatible with that mb. Unfortunately that CPU requires > F20 version BIOS and the mb came with F3. It will not run at all > without F20. I will need to buy an older CPU that will work with F3 > which will allow the computer to power up. If there is a Linux > program to update the BIOS then I can install Devuan and then update. > Otherwise I will still have to buy the old CPU and find someone that > has a bootable Windows HD useable on the mb and have them update the > BIOS. > > Best regards, > Fred > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng You do not need Windows to update a BIOS on a Gigabyte mb but can use Q-Flash from BIOS instead. Too bad you still need a working processor and memory to make this work. Your motherboard does not support Q-Flash Plus with which you even do not need a processor to update the BIOS. Grtz. Nick signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] motherboard BIOS update
On 1/8/21 1:08 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: On 08-01-2021 20:52, Fred wrote: On 1/8/21 8:09 AM, Antony Stone wrote: On Friday 08 January 2021 at 15:43:37, Fred wrote: Is there a Devuan program that can update the motherboard BIOS? I don't do Windows. I can't imagine there being anything Devuan-specific for this sort of thing (ie: it'll either be standard Debian, or generic Linux), but to get a meaningful answer to the question the main bit of information you need to supply is "what make / model of motherboard". Antony. I don't understand what you mean. As far as I know one has to use Windows to update a BIOS. I bought a Gigabyte GA-H170-HD3 mb and an Intel i5-7500 CPU which is listed as compatible with that mb. Unfortunately that CPU requires F20 version BIOS and the mb came with F3. It will not run at all without F20. I will need to buy an older CPU that will work with F3 which will allow the computer to power up. If there is a Linux program to update the BIOS then I can install Devuan and then update. Otherwise I will still have to buy the old CPU and find someone that has a bootable Windows HD useable on the mb and have them update the BIOS. Best regards, Fred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng You do not need Windows to update a BIOS on a Gigabyte mb but can use Q-Flash from BIOS instead. Too bad you still need a working processor and memory to make this work. Your motherboard does not support Q-Flash Plus with which you even do not need a processor to update the BIOS. Grtz. Nick ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Hi Nick, The Gigabyte web site Q-Flash instructions say it needs a USB-floppy device. Do you know if it will work with a USB flash drive instead? And which USB port is to be used? The update is a zip file. Does it need to be unzipped first? I have ordered a CPU that supposedly will work with the existing F3 BIOS. Unfortunately it cost $120. Best regards, Fred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
