Re: [dns-operations] Why did .KE go insecure? ns36.cdns.net

2022-09-23 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 07:48:50PM +0200, Bill Woodcock wrote:

> > On Sep 23, 2022, at 7:27 PM, Jacques Latour  wrote:
> > Just looking quickly, if you look back in dnsviz on Sept 15, I think a KSK 
> > roll over didn't go as plan...
> 
> That was not the root cause.  I’m sure they’ll discuss it when they’re ready 
> to.

I concur.  There were no observed DNSSEC issues, such as a problem
rollover, ...  The DS records were withdrawn cleanly, with the RRSIGs
still in place long enough to not cause any issues.

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Re: [dns-operations] Why did .KE go insecure? ns36.cdns.net

2022-09-23 Thread Bill Woodcock


> On Sep 23, 2022, at 7:27 PM, Jacques Latour  wrote:
> Just looking quickly, if you look back in dnsviz on Sept 15, I think a KSK 
> roll over didn't go as plan...

That was not the root cause.  I’m sure they’ll discuss it when they’re ready to.

-Bill



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Re: [dns-operations] Why did .KE go insecure? ns36.cdns.net

2022-09-23 Thread Jacques Latour
Just looking quickly, if you look back in dnsviz on Sept 15, I think a KSK roll 
over didn't go as plan... https://dnsviz.net/d/ke/YyK2rw/dnssec/

Now, here's a nice feature, a play button that shows a step by step of key roll 
over.


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> On Sep 23, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Jan-Piet Mens via dns-operations 
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> From: Jan-Piet Mens 
> Subject: Why did .KE go insecure? ns36.cdns.net
> Date: September 23, 2022 at 6:09:04 PM GMT+2
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> Out of curiousity, does anybody know why .KE went insecure just after
> 2022-09-15 18:37Z [1]?  They appear to have removed all DNSSEC related data
> meanwhile [2].

Yes.  I imagine they’ll make an announcement at some point.  It wasn’t to do 
with a failure of DNSSEC systems.

-Bill


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Re: [dns-operations] Why did .KE go insecure? ns36.cdns.net

2022-09-23 Thread Bill Woodcock


> On Sep 23, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Jan-Piet Mens via dns-operations 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Jan-Piet Mens 
> Subject: Why did .KE go insecure? ns36.cdns.net
> Date: September 23, 2022 at 6:09:04 PM GMT+2
> To: dns-operations@lists.dns-oarc.net
> 
> 
> Out of curiousity, does anybody know why .KE went insecure just after
> 2022-09-15 18:37Z [1]?  They appear to have removed all DNSSEC related data
> meanwhile [2].

Yes.  I imagine they’ll make an announcement at some point.  It wasn’t to do 
with a failure of DNSSEC systems.

-Bill



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[dns-operations] Why did .KE go insecure? ns36.cdns.net

2022-09-23 Thread Jan-Piet Mens via dns-operations
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Out of curiousity, does anybody know why .KE went insecure just after
2022-09-15 18:37Z [1]?  They appear to have removed all DNSSEC related data
meanwhile [2].

-JP


[1] https://dnsviz.net/d/ke/YyNw8w/dnssec/
[2] https://dnsviz.net/d/ke/Yy3YYw/dnssec/
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Re: [dns-operations] ENT NXDOMAIN problem at .BS nameserver ns36.cdns.net

2022-09-23 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 02:12:43PM +,
 BS Domain Technical Contact  wrote 
 a message of 64 lines which said:

> Please provide an update regarding the same. Thanks.

Which update? Nothing changed.

% dig @ns36.cdns.net com.bs

; <<>> DiG 9.18.1-1ubuntu1.2-Ubuntu <<>> @ns36.cdns.net com.bs
; (2 servers found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 46699
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;com.bs.IN A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
bs. 9000 IN SOA dns.nic.bs. bsadmin.cob.edu.bs. (
2022092000 ; serial
3600   ; refresh (1 hour)
900; retry (15 minutes)
1814400; expire (3 weeks)
9000   ; minimum (2 hours 30 minutes)
)

;; Query time: 12 msec
;; SERVER: 2001:678:4::24#53(ns36.cdns.net) (UDP)
;; WHEN: Fri Sep 23 09:27:04 CEST 2022
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 101
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Re: [dns-operations] ENT NXDOMAIN problem at .BS nameserver ns36.cdns.net

2022-09-23 Thread Vladimír Čunát via dns-operations
--- Begin Message ---

On 22/09/2022 16.12, BS Domain Technical Contact wrote:

Please provide an update regarding the same. Thanks.


I'm still getting NXDOMAIN.  It's fairly easy for anyone to check by 
running e.g.


dig @ns36.cdns.net com.bs.

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Re: [dns-operations] ENT NXDOMAIN problem at .BS nameserver ns36.cdns.net

2022-09-23 Thread BS Domain Technical Contact
Good morning,

Please provide an update regarding the same. Thanks.

Rudyard Burton
Office of Information Technology
University of The Bahamas
Phone: 242-302-4528 
Email: rudyard.bur...@ub.edu.bs


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From: Viktor Dukhovni  
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 8:34 PM
To: dns-operati...@dns-oarc.net
Cc: BS Domain Technical Contact ; BS Domain Administrator 

Subject: ENT NXDOMAIN problem at .BS nameserver ns36.cdns.net

The .COM.BS is an empty non-terminal with various child domains registered 
beneath.  The "ns36.cdns.net" nameserver for .BS responds with NXDOMAIN to 
"com.bs" qname-minimised queries.

This in turn can and does sometimes lead to NXDOMAIN inference for the child 
domains.

This nameserver needs to be withdrawn and fixed before it is returned to 
service.

2001:678:4::24ns36.cdns.net
194.0.1.36ns36.cdns.net

Example responses:

@194.0.1.36

;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 3297
;; flags: qr aa; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;com.bs.IN SOA

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
bs. SOA dns.nic.bs. bsadmin.cob.edu.bs. 2022092000 
3600 900 1814400 9000

@2001:678:4::24

;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 39616
;; flags: qr aa; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;com.bs.IN SOA

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
bs. SOA dns.nic.bs. bsadmin.cob.edu.bs. 2022092000 
3600 900 1814400 9000

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