[dns-operations] SOA-less (uncacheable) NODATA from `protection.outlook.com` nameservers

2022-10-21 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
The nameservers for both `protection.outlook.com` and 
`olc.protection.outlook.com` are:


ns[12]-gtm.glbdns.o365filtering.com

They return uncacheable NODATA responses with no SOA [RFC2308 Sec. 5].  Any
IPv6 client that asks for the  records of various "olc" hosts will
therefore elicit uncacheable answers:

$ ns=ns2-gtm.glbdns.o365filtering.com
$ qname=hotmail-com.olc.protection.outlook.com.
$ qtype=

$ dig +norecur +nocmd -t $qtype $qname @$ns
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 21255
;; flags: qr aa ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;hotmail-com.olc.protection.outlook.com.IN 

;; Query time: 14 msec
;; SERVER: 104.47.38.8#53(104.47.38.8)
;; WHEN: Fri Oct 21 14:32:47 EDT 2022
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 67

This seems suboptimal to me.  Is anyone at Microsoft in a position to append
addressing this (mis)behaviour to the list of future improvements?

Note that the host in question is the MX host for hotmail.com, for which 


queries would be quite common, given the billions of email messages a day
handled by hotmail.com and outlook.com (same symptoms).

--
Viktor.

[ Cross-posted on OARC Mattermost "Town Hall" forum ]
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Re: [dns-operations] What's going on at Microsoft?

2022-10-21 Thread Borja Marcos


> On 21 Oct 2022, at 09:51, Stephane Bortzmeyer  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 08:49:16AM +0200,
> Borja Marcos  wrote 
> a message of 41 lines which said:
> 
>> Right now I have quite a lot of pollution on my recursive error logs due to 
>> two Microsoft operated domains:
>> 
>> microsoftdnstest.net
>> msedge.net
> 
> For microsoftdnstest.net, the two name servers do reply but they reply
> SERVFAIL (and, unfortunately, without EDE).
> 
> msedge.net works fine for me. (But of course, names like
> t-ring-fallback.msedge.net which redirect to microsoftdnstest.net are
> not useful.)

Yes, for some reason I have some customers querying those like crazy.

Ah didn’t notice that t-ring… is a CNAME. 

Anyway hope someone from MS can jump in!


Thanks :)






Borja.


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Re: [dns-operations] What's going on at Microsoft?

2022-10-21 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 08:49:16AM +0200,
 Borja Marcos  wrote 
 a message of 41 lines which said:

> Right now I have quite a lot of pollution on my recursive error logs due to 
> two Microsoft operated domains:
> 
> microsoftdnstest.net
> msedge.net

For microsoftdnstest.net, the two name servers do reply but they reply
SERVFAIL (and, unfortunately, without EDE).

msedge.net works fine for me. (But of course, names like
t-ring-fallback.msedge.net which redirect to microsoftdnstest.net are
not useful.)

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[dns-operations] What's going on at Microsoft?

2022-10-21 Thread Borja Marcos


Hi,

Right now I have quite a lot of pollution on my recursive error logs due to two 
Microsoft operated domains:

microsoftdnstest.net
msedge.net

The errors begun on October 17th. And I get the same SERVFAILs querying public 
recursive DNS
services such as Google, Quad9, etc.

Is there anyone from Microsoft here? I see both domains are broken according to 
dnsviz.net. 

Thanks,




Borja Marcos.
Sarenet ASN3262

P.S: The offending queries are:


www.microsoftdnstest.net
ns1.microsoftdnstest.net
ns2.microsoftdnstest.net

t-ring-fallback.msedge.net
t-s2-ring.msedge.net
t-ring-fallbacks2.msedge.net
t-ring-fallbacks1.msedge.net





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