Re: [dns-operations] dnsviz.net complaining "UDP_-_NOEDNS_" for gtld-servers.net

2020-06-05 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 11:26:55AM +0200, Thomas Mieslinger wrote:

> I have a customer complaining being unable to send/receive email.
> 
> https://dnsviz.net/d/sportsproducts.net/dnssec/

The report as stated does not contain sufficient detail.  What does
"unable" mean, especially in the context of a bidirectional issue.

No inbound email from particular senders?  From all senders?  What
do the senders see as the apparent problem?

No outbound email to particular receivers?  To all receivers?  What
do the MTA logs report as the apparent failure mode?

The domain looks fine for inbound mail.  DNS is OK:

sportsproducts.net. IN DS ? ; NODATA AD=0

sportsproducts.net. IN MX 10 mx00.1and1.com. ; NoError AD=0
sportsproducts.net. IN MX 11 mx01.1and1.com. ; NoError AD=0

Opportunistic TLS is also OK:

$ posttls-finger -l may -L summary -c sportsproducts.net
posttls-finger: Untrusted TLS connection established to 
mx00.1and1.com[74.208.5.3]:25: TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 
(128/128 bits)

-- 
Viktor.
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Re: [dns-operations] dnsviz.net complaining "UDP_-_NOEDNS_" for gtld-servers.net

2020-06-05 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 11:26:55AM +0200,
 Thomas Mieslinger  wrote 
 a message of 29 lines which said:

> I have a customer complaining being unable to send/receive email.

sportsproducts.net appear to DNS-work fine, so the problem is probably
elsewhere.

> https://dnsviz.net/d/sportsproducts.net/dnssec/
> 
> shows errors:
> sportsproducts.net/DS: No response was received from the server
> over UDP (tried 12 times). (2001:502:1ca1::30, 2001:503:d414::30,
> 2001:503:eea3::30, UDP_-_NOEDNS_)

Timeout with Verisign name servers. Unfortunately, it is too common
with the IPv6 Internet. But, unless the resolver is v6-only, it does
not prevent DNS resolution (otherwise, no .net name would work). So,
it is probably not the reason why your customer has problems.

A test with the RIPE Atlas probes, to show that a few of them have the problem:

% blaeu-resolve --nameserver 2001:502:1ca1::30 -r 100 --dnssec -q DS 
sportsproducts.net
Nameserver 2001:502:1ca1::30
[] : 96 occurrences 
[TIMEOUT] : 3 occurrences 
Test #25636763 done at 2020-06-05T11:20:54Z
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[dns-operations] dnsviz.net complaining "UDP_-_NOEDNS_" for gtld-servers.net

2020-06-05 Thread Thomas Mieslinger

I have a customer complaining being unable to send/receive email.

https://dnsviz.net/d/sportsproducts.net/dnssec/

shows errors:
sportsproducts.net/DS: No response was received from the server
over UDP (tried 12 times). (2001:502:1ca1::30, 2001:503:d414::30,
2001:503:eea3::30, UDP_-_NOEDNS_)

sportsproducts.net/NS: No response was received from the server
over UDP (tried 12 times). (2001:502:1ca1::30, 2001:503:d414::30,
2001:503:eea3::30, UDP_-_NOEDNS_)

From Germany (more specific HE-FRA) I can not reproduce this error.

From us-mkc (as8560): no problem.

Answer size reported by dig: 864 (ds)/ 643 (ns)

Anyone an idea what is wrong?

Cheers

Thomas

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