Re: [dns-operations] service.gov.scot erroneous NXDOMAIN from "scot" auth servers

2023-06-26 Thread Klaus Malorny

On 20.06.23 04:42, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:

The gov.scot zone is unsigned, with "service.gov.scot" as a subdomain,
but "DS" queries for "service.gov.scot" incorrectly elicit NXDOMAIN,
rather than NODATA responses from the "scot" auth servers.

 $ dig -t ds service.gov.scot @anycast9.irondns.net +norecur +nocmd +noall 
+nostats +comment +noedns
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 22729
 ;; flags: qr aa; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0




Hi Viktor, readers of the dns-operations list,

I just want to let you know that we fixed the problem and updated our 
name server infrastructure last Wednesday/Thursday.


Regards,
Klaus

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Re: [dns-operations] service.gov.scot erroneous NXDOMAIN from "scot" auth servers

2023-06-20 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 02:44:34PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 01:36:10PM +0200,
>  CORE DNS Support Team  wrote 
>  a message of 43 lines which said:
> 
> > since anycast9 is only responsible for scot and not for gov.scot, I
> > believe the desired answer is a delegation to the name servers of
> > gov.scot, and not, as you wrote, a "NODATA" response
> 
> No, Viktor is right, and a NODATA (the correct answer) is indeed what
> the servers return for other query types:

Well, a delegation is in some sense a NODATA response that happens to
have referral NS records (and no SOA) in the authority section.  So in
that sense both are correct, but a delegation is I think closer.

> % dig @anycast23.irondns.net. A service.gov.scot
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.18.12-1-Debian <<>> @anycast23.irondns.net. A service.gov.scot
> ; (2 servers found)
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 30666
> ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 1
> ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
> 
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;service.gov.scot.IN  A
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> gov.scot. 86400   IN  NS  ns0.ja.net.
> gov.scot. 86400   IN  NS  ns4.ja.net.
> gov.scot. 86400   IN  NS  ns2.ja.net.
> gov.scot. 86400   IN  NS  ns3.ja.net.

That's of course a delegation.

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Re: [dns-operations] service.gov.scot erroneous NXDOMAIN from "scot" auth servers

2023-06-20 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 01:36:10PM +0200,
 CORE DNS Support Team  wrote 
 a message of 43 lines which said:

> since anycast9 is only responsible for scot and not for gov.scot, I
> believe the desired answer is a delegation to the name servers of
> gov.scot, and not, as you wrote, a "NODATA" response

No, Viktor is right, and a NODATA (the correct answer) is indeed what
the servers return for other query types:


% dig @anycast23.irondns.net. A service.gov.scot

; <<>> DiG 9.18.12-1-Debian <<>> @anycast23.irondns.net. A service.gov.scot
; (2 servers found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 30666
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;service.gov.scot.  IN  A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
gov.scot.   86400   IN  NS  ns0.ja.net.
gov.scot.   86400   IN  NS  ns4.ja.net.
gov.scot.   86400   IN  NS  ns2.ja.net.
gov.scot.   86400   IN  NS  ns3.ja.net.

;; Query time: 8 msec
;; SERVER: 2a01:5b0:5::b#53(anycast23.irondns.net.) (UDP)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 20 14:43:54 CEST 2023
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 123
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Re: [dns-operations] service.gov.scot erroneous NXDOMAIN from "scot" auth servers

2023-06-20 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 01:36:10PM +0200, CORE DNS Support Team wrote:

> > The gov.scot zone is unsigned, with "service.gov.scot" as a subdomain,
> > but "DS" queries for "service.gov.scot" incorrectly elicit NXDOMAIN,
> > rather than NODATA responses from the "scot" auth servers.
> > 
> >  $ dig -t ds service.gov.scot @anycast9.irondns.net +norecur +nocmd 
> > +noall +nostats +comment +noedns
> >  ;; Got answer:
> >  ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 22729
> >  ;; flags: qr aa; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> The answer is indeed not correct. We will investigate the problem and
> fix it in the next days.

Thanks, that's great.

> However, since anycast9 is only responsible for scot and not for
> gov.scot, I believe the desired answer is a delegation to the name
> servers of gov.scot, and not, as you wrote, a "NODATA" response.

Yes, more precisely a delegation is the expected response, ultimately
(from gov.scot) the response will be NODATA (neither gov.scot, nor
service.gov.scot are signed).

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Re: [dns-operations] service.gov.scot erroneous NXDOMAIN from "scot" auth servers

2023-06-20 Thread CORE DNS Support Team

On 20.06.23 04:42, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:

The gov.scot zone is unsigned, with "service.gov.scot" as a subdomain,
but "DS" queries for "service.gov.scot" incorrectly elicit NXDOMAIN,
rather than NODATA responses from the "scot" auth servers.

 $ dig -t ds service.gov.scot @anycast9.irondns.net +norecur +nocmd +noall 
+nostats +comment +noedns
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 22729
 ;; flags: qr aa; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0




Hi Viktor,

thanks for bringing this to our attention. The answer is indeed not 
correct. We will investigate the problem and fix it in the next days. 
However, since anycast9 is only responsible for scot and not for 
gov.scot, I believe the desired answer is a delegation to the name 
servers of gov.scot, and not, as you wrote, a "NODATA" response. But I 
will check this to be sure.


Regards,
Klaus

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[dns-operations] service.gov.scot erroneous NXDOMAIN from "scot" auth servers

2023-06-19 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
The gov.scot zone is unsigned, with "service.gov.scot" as a subdomain,
but "DS" queries for "service.gov.scot" incorrectly elicit NXDOMAIN,
rather than NODATA responses from the "scot" auth servers.

$ dig -t ds service.gov.scot @anycast9.irondns.net +norecur +nocmd +noall 
+nostats +comment +noedns
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 22729
;; flags: qr aa; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

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