Re: [dns-privacy] After the DNS-over-DTLS WGLC...

[Warren Kumari]

Great.

I just put in the session request...

W

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Dan York  wrote:
>
> On Aug 18, 2016, at 1:15 PM, Hugo Connery  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2016-08-18 at 09:06 -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>
> On 16 Aug 2016, at 10:08, Warren Kumari wrote:
>
>
> At the moment we are expecting to meet  in Seoul, partly to discuss
> the Profiles document, but also as a “BoF style” discussion on the
> Phase 2 work.
>
> Thoughts? Views? etc.
>
> A BoFy kind of discussion about recursive-to-authoritative would be
> very
> useful. The privacy advantages are obvious, but the various types of
> costs are important too.
> --Paul Hoffman
>
>
> +1
>
>
> +1. Agree this discussion would be useful.
>
> Dan
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I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
of pants.
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[dns-privacy] dprive - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 97

["IETF Meeting Session Request Tool"]

A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Warren Kumari, a Chair 
of the dprive working group.


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Working Group Name: DNS PRIVate Exchange
Area Name: Internet Area
Session Requester: Warren Kumari

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  1.5 Hours
Number of Attendees: 100
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 First Priority:  opsawg dnsop dane capport
 Second Priority:  intarea v6ops



Special Requests:
  
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Re: [dns-privacy] After the DNS-over-DTLS WGLC...

[Dan York]

On Aug 18, 2016, at 1:15 PM, Hugo Connery 
> wrote:

On Thu, 2016-08-18 at 09:06 -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote:
On 16 Aug 2016, at 10:08, Warren Kumari wrote:


At the moment we are expecting to meet  in Seoul, partly to discuss
the Profiles document, but also as a “BoF style” discussion on the
Phase 2 work.

Thoughts? Views? etc.
A BoFy kind of discussion about recursive-to-authoritative would be
very
useful. The privacy advantages are obvious, but the various types of
costs are important too.
--Paul Hoffman

+1

+1. Agree this discussion would be useful.

Dan

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Re: [dns-privacy] After the DNS-over-DTLS WGLC...

[Hugo Connery]

On Thu, 2016-08-18 at 09:06 -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> On 16 Aug 2016, at 10:08, Warren Kumari wrote:
> 
> > 
> > At the moment we are expecting to meet  in Seoul, partly to discuss
> > the Profiles document, but also as a “BoF style” discussion on the
> > Phase 2 work.
> > 
> > Thoughts? Views? etc.
> A BoFy kind of discussion about recursive-to-authoritative would be
> very 
> useful. The privacy advantages are obvious, but the various types of 
> costs are important too.
> --Paul Hoffman

+1

-- 
Hugo Connery, Head of IT, DTU Environment
"There is no cloud, only other people's computers".  FSF-Europe

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Re: [dns-privacy] After the DNS-over-DTLS WGLC...

[Paul Hoffman]

On 16 Aug 2016, at 10:08, Warren Kumari wrote:


At the moment we are expecting to meet  in Seoul, partly to discuss
the Profiles document, but also as a “BoF style” discussion on the
Phase 2 work.

Thoughts? Views? etc.


A BoFy kind of discussion about recursive-to-authoritative would be very 
useful. The privacy advantages are obvious, but the various types of 
costs are important too.


--Paul Hoffman

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Re: [dns-privacy] Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-dprive-dnsodtls.

[Bob Harold]

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy) <
tire...@cisco.com> wrote:

> *From:* Bob Harold [mailto:rharo...@umich.edu]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 9:13 PM
> *To:* Warren Kumari 
> *Cc:* dns-privacy@ietf.org; draft-ietf-dprive-dnsod...@ietf.org;
> dprive-cha...@tools.ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [dns-privacy] Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-dprive-dnsodtls.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Warren Kumari  wrote:
>
> Dear DPRIVE WG,
>
> The authors of draft-ietf-dprive-dnsodtls have indicated that they
> believe that the document is ready, and have asked for Working Group
> Last Call.
>
> The draft is available here:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dprive-dnsodtls/
>
> Please review this draft to see if you think it is ready for
> publication and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
>
> This WGLC ends Tue 30-Aug-2016.
>
> In addition, to satisfy RFC 6702 ("Promoting Compliance with
> Intellectual Property Rights (IPR)"):
> Are you personally aware of any IPR that applies to
> draft-ietf-dprive-dnsodtls?  If so, has this IPR been disclosed in
> compliance with IETF IPR rules? (See RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669, and 5378
> for more details.)
>
> Thanks,
> Warren Kumari
>
>
>
> Looks good to me.  A couple grammatical concerns:
>
>
>
> Section "3.1.  Session Initiation"
>
> The last sentance might sound better by adding "therefore" in the middle:
>
>
>
> "There are
>significant security issues in mixing protected and unprotected data,
>
> therefore
>UDP connections on a port designated by a given server for DNS-over-
>DTLS are reserved purely for encrypted communications."
>
>
>
> [TR] Updated in my local copy.
>
>
>
> Section "4. Performance Considerations"
> This sentence does not read well to me:
>
> "TLS False Start] which reduces round-trips
>by allowing the TLS second flight of messages (ChangeCipherSpec) to
>also contain the (encrypted) DNS query. "
>
>
>
> [TR] How about the following line ?
>
> TLS False Start [I-D.ietf-tls-falsestart] can reduce the round-trips in
> certain situations.
>

[BH] That would work.. I was think just change "which reduces" to "can
reduce":
"TLS False Start] can reduce round-trips
   by allowing the TLS second flight of messages (ChangeCipherSpec) to
   also contain the (encrypted) DNS query. "



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> -Tiru
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>
>
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> Bob Harold
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