[dns-privacy] dprive - Update to a Meeting Session Request for IETF 106

2019-09-17 Thread IETF Meeting Session Request Tool 



An update to a meeting session request has just been submitted by Tim Wicinski, 
a Chair of the dprive working group.


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Working Group Name: DNS PRIVate Exchange
Area Name: Internet Area
Session Requester: Tim Wicinski

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  1.5 Hours
Number of Attendees: 120
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 Chair Conflict: doh dnssd dnsop lamps
 Technology Overlap: acme saag homenet



People who must be present:
  Brian Haberman
  Eric Vyncke
  Tim Wicinski

Resources Requested:

Special Requests:
  Please Schedule on Friday.
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Re: [dns-privacy] DoH vs DoT at IMC 2019

2019-09-17 Thread Vladimír Čunát 
> [...] Implementing out-of-order delivery via TLS is akin to
> (re-)implementing the stream multiplexing part of SCTP, QUIC or
> HTTP/2.0. We believe that this is one of the main reasons why
> DNS-over-TLS failed to gain significant traction.

The last sentence really surprises me.  I'm actually not convinced that
protocol details like this can *directly* affect large-scale adoption,
so to find this it might be more interesting to ask the most popular DNS
clients why they chose the way they did.  AFAIK it's not too common to
support both (equally).  I would think the main reasons will be far from
the suggested one, but I didn't try to find out... except that for web
browsers it's probably natural to prefer DoH, as they're all built
around http(s).

--Vladimir

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