Re: [dns-privacy] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dprive-early-data-00.txt

2020-04-22 Thread Ilari Liusvaara
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 06:41:39AM -0700, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the DNS PRIVate Exchange WG of the IETF.
> 
> Title   : Using Early Data in DNS over TLS
> Author  : Alessandro Ghedini
>   Filename: draft-ietf-dprive-early-data-00.txt
>   Pages   : 6
>   Date: 2020-04-22

That RRTYPE whitelist looks quite questionable. Any Data RRTYPE (numbers
1-127 and 256-61439) needs to be safe as QTYPE, or there are major
problems already (since servers MUST answer all of them).

Meta RRTYPEs (numbers 128-255) might be unsafe (and servers are
allowed to reject such queries already). Then there is the unassigned,
private use and reserved stuff (numbers 0, 61440-65535) and who knows
what is there.

Unfortunately there is the special snowflake that is OPT (number 41).
Despite being in DATA RRTYPE range, it is special (usually not even used
as QTYPE). Now, the base structure absolutely has to be allowed in
0-RTT. The problem with it is that it can carry its own extensions. I
have no idea of what most of those even do, and there are probably at
least some that are unsafe in 0-RTT, and at least some that are
actually useful in 0-RTT.

(As sidenote, I discovered that Unbound does not like OPT as QTYPE
and answers with FORMERR, but there are servers out there that answer
OPT queries like any other datatype they have no records for).


-Ilari

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Re: [dns-privacy] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dprive-early-data-00.txt

2020-04-22 Thread Bob Harold
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 9:41 AM  wrote:

>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the DNS PRIVate Exchange WG of the IETF.
>
> Title   : Using Early Data in DNS over TLS
> Author  : Alessandro Ghedini
> Filename: draft-ietf-dprive-early-data-00.txt
> Pages   : 6
> Date: 2020-04-22
>
> Abstract:
>This document illustrates the risks of using TLS 1.3 early data with
>DNS over TLS, and specifies behaviors that can be adopted by clients
>and servers to reduce those risks.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dprive-early-data/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dprive-early-data-00
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dprive-early-data-00
>
>
Looks good to me, one nit:

1. Introduction

"tecniques" -> "techniques"

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[dns-privacy] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dprive-early-data-00.txt

2020-04-22 Thread internet-drafts


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the DNS PRIVate Exchange WG of the IETF.

Title   : Using Early Data in DNS over TLS
Author  : Alessandro Ghedini
Filename: draft-ietf-dprive-early-data-00.txt
Pages   : 6
Date: 2020-04-22

Abstract:
   This document illustrates the risks of using TLS 1.3 early data with
   DNS over TLS, and specifies behaviors that can be adopted by clients
   and servers to reduce those risks.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dprive-early-data/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dprive-early-data-00
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dprive-early-data-00


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Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-ghedini-dprive-early-data

2020-04-22 Thread Tim Wicinski
All

The call for adoption has ended and we're received feedback on adopting and
working
on this.  Consensus appears the document needs work but is a good starting
point

thanks
tim


On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:45 AM Christopher Wood 
wrote:

> I support adoption and am willing to review.
>
> Best,
> Chris
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> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, at 2:42 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
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> > I support adoption. There's work to be done on it, but
> > it's a good start and should be a useful document.
> >
> > S.
> >
> > On 08/04/2020 18:27, Tim Wicinski wrote:
> > > This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-ghedini-dprive-early-data
> > >
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> > >
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> adoption
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> > >
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Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-huitema-dprive-dnsoquic

2020-04-22 Thread Tim Wicinski
All

The call for adoption has ended and strong consensus to adopt.  Thanks
for all the feedback.

tim


On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:18 AM Benno Overeinder  wrote:

> I support the adoption of the draft and I am willing to contribute/review.
>
> -- Benno
>
>
> On 08/04/2020 18:41, Tim Wicinski wrote:
> >
> > This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-huitema-dprive-dnsoquic
> >
> > The draft is available here:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-huitema-dprive-dnsoquic/
> >
> > Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption
> > by DPRIVE, and comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
> >
> > Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, etc.
> >
> > This call for adoption ends: 22 April 2020
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Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-huitema-dprive-dnsoquic

2020-04-22 Thread Benno Overeinder
I support the adoption of the draft and I am willing to contribute/review.

-- Benno


On 08/04/2020 18:41, Tim Wicinski wrote:
> 
> This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-huitema-dprive-dnsoquic
> 
> The draft is available here:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-huitema-dprive-dnsoquic/
> 
> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption
> by DPRIVE, and comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
> 
> Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, etc.
> 
> This call for adoption ends: 22 April 2020
> 
> Thanks,
> tim/brian
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