Re: [DNSOP] dns data exchanged between host and local dns-sever

2009-04-27 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 01:13:37PM -0500,
 Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com wrote 
 a message of 22 lines which said:

 Of course hopefully ssh is implemented in such a way that it makes
 sure the SSHFP RR has been validated by the resolver before using
 it; I haven't actually tried it, so I don't know.

At least OpenSSH appears to not do that systematically, probably
because there is no secure name resolution API, no standard way to
check the AD bit from an application (and the app will still not know
if the validating resolver was secure, or if it was using random
trust anchors without checking).

There is an option in OpenSSH to activate DNSSEC testing for SSHFP
(see dns.c and openbsd-compat/getrrsetbyname.c) but it seems to depend
on the local stub resolver support and therefore does not work for
each system.
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Re: [DNSOP] HSMs was Re: I-D Action:draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc4641bis-01.txt

2009-04-27 Thread Joe Abley


On 27-Apr-2009, at 09:05, Edward Lewis wrote:

Perhaps we should avoid the RFC 5513 HSM and just spell it out - a  
(cryptographic) hardware support module.


Hardware Security Module is the more usual expanded form, I think?


Joe

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Re: [DNSOP] HSMs was Re: I-D Action:draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc4641bis-01.txt

2009-04-27 Thread Edward Lewis

At 9:16 -0400 4/27/09, Joe Abley wrote:


Hardware Security Module is the more usual expanded form, I think?


Wikipedia sides with you, Joe.

Toh-may-to, Toh-ma-toh. ;)

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Re: [DNSOP] dns data exchanged between host and local dns-sever

2009-04-27 Thread Phil Regnauld
Holger Zuleger (Holger.Zuleger) writes:
 Even BIND as a (local) forwarding name server is not able to use
 GSS-TSIG to protect the communication with the recursive name server.

You can setup TSIG between recursive nameservers.

 Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 I'm looking for a TSIG aware stub-resolver for years.

Well, Unbound does provide the necessary pieces to build one,
but I've yet to see the OS stub resolver implement TSIG.

Phil
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Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: Requirements for Management of Name Servers for the DNS

2009-04-27 Thread Wes Hardaker
 On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:44:42 -0700, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us 
 said:
DB I've read the draft at the URL above and am generally supportive of
DB its moving forward.

Doug,

Thanks for responding with a review about the Management Requirements
document.  I've applied all your very useful changes to the draft.

I only had a question/comment about one of them:

DB 3.1.1 Needed Control Operations
DB The ability to do a reload on an individual zone should probably be
DB mentioned here.

That's probably a good point but I think it's worth checking to make
sure anyone else reading this has a problem with this.  Supporting
partial reloads (be that split line along a zone data set or something
more granular) is potentially more intensive than a complete reload.

You're right the original text didn't really specify anything (though it
implied a complete reload).  How does this bullet replacement sound:

  OLD: Reloading zone data
  NEW: Reloading some or all of the zone data sets

I'm not sure sets should be in there or not...  I think it conveys the
boundary line better though.

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Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: Requirements for Management of Name Servers for the DNS

2009-04-27 Thread Wes Hardaker
 On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:42:39 -0700, SM s...@resistor.net said:

s From the Abstract:

...

Thanks for the comments on the draft; I've incorporated all of your changes.
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