Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-03.txt

2022-10-26 Thread Eduardo Duarte

Hi Roy,

Thank you for the explanation. Hopefully there will software that does 
the translation to other reporting tools soon after the Draft is accepted.


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Às 13:38 de 26/10/22, Roy Arends escreveu:





On 26 Oct 2022, at 11:05, Eduardo 
Duarte  wrote:

Hi all,

I'm not active in the WG but some one point out this draft during last week 
DNS-OARC meeting and I have a question for the Authors.
So from my understanding after reading the Draft all the reporting is done over 
DNS itself. Did the Authors think of adding other reporting mechanisms like 
REST+JSON or even email?
I'm bringing this up because I think it will be easier to integrate the error 
reporting to other monitoring tools in this way instead of reading the log file 
from a Reporting Agent.

Hi Eduardo,

First off, thanks for reading it and commenting on it. All input is greatly 
appreciated!

The simplest method available, that included facilities to dampen the amount of 
reports (such as caching) and reducing the additional complexity in validating 
resolvers, was using the DNS.

All of the additional complexity, such as REST+JSON, email etcetera can be 
added to the reporting agent, where all reports come in over DNS, and 
subsequently more audited, in-depth, aggregated, curated and even human 
readable reports can go out via various APIs, protocols, transports, etc.

Hope this helps.

Roy
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Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-03.txt

2022-10-26 Thread Roy Arends



> On 26 Oct 2022, at 11:05, Eduardo Duarte 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm not active in the WG but some one point out this draft during last week 
> DNS-OARC meeting and I have a question for the Authors. 
> So from my understanding after reading the Draft all the reporting is done 
> over DNS itself. Did the Authors think of adding other reporting mechanisms 
> like REST+JSON or even email? 
> I'm bringing this up because I think it will be easier to integrate the error 
> reporting to other monitoring tools in this way instead of reading the log 
> file from a Reporting Agent.

Hi Eduardo,

First off, thanks for reading it and commenting on it. All input is greatly 
appreciated!

The simplest method available, that included facilities to dampen the amount of 
reports (such as caching) and reducing the additional complexity in validating 
resolvers, was using the DNS. 

All of the additional complexity, such as REST+JSON, email etcetera can be 
added to the reporting agent, where all reports come in over DNS, and 
subsequently more audited, in-depth, aggregated, curated and even human 
readable reports can go out via various APIs, protocols, transports, etc.

Hope this helps.

Roy
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Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-03.txt

2022-10-26 Thread Eduardo Duarte

Hi all,

I'm not active in the WG but some one point out this draft during last 
week DNS-OARC meeting and I have a question for the Authors.
So from my understanding after reading the Draft all the reporting is 
done over DNS itself. Did the Authors think of adding other reporting 
mechanisms like REST+JSON or even email?
I'm bringing this up because I think it will be easier to integrate the 
error reporting to other monitoring tools in this way instead of reading 
the log file from a Reporting Agent.


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Thank you and best regards,

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Às 14:50 de 24/10/22, internet-dra...@ietf.org escreveu:



A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF.

 Title   : DNS Error Reporting
 Authors : Roy Arends
   Matt Larson
   Filename: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-03.txt
   Pages   : 10
   Date: 2022-10-24

Abstract:
DNS Error Reporting is a lightweight error reporting mechanism that
provides the operator of an authoritative server with reports on DNS
resource records that fail to resolve or validate, that a Domain
Owner or DNS Hosting organization can use to improve domain hosting.
The reports are based on Extended DNS Errors [RFC8914].

When a domain name fails to resolve or validate due to a
misconfiguration or an attack, the operator of the authoritative
server may be unaware of this.  To mitigate this lack of feedback,
this document describes a method for a validating recursive resolver
to automatically signal an error to an agent specified by the
authoritative server.  DNS Error Reporting uses the DNS to report
errors.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting/

There is also an htmlized version available at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-03

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-03


Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts


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[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-03.txt

2022-10-24 Thread internet-drafts


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF.

Title   : DNS Error Reporting
Authors : Roy Arends
  Matt Larson
  Filename: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-03.txt
  Pages   : 10
  Date: 2022-10-24

Abstract:
   DNS Error Reporting is a lightweight error reporting mechanism that
   provides the operator of an authoritative server with reports on DNS
   resource records that fail to resolve or validate, that a Domain
   Owner or DNS Hosting organization can use to improve domain hosting.
   The reports are based on Extended DNS Errors [RFC8914].

   When a domain name fails to resolve or validate due to a
   misconfiguration or an attack, the operator of the authoritative
   server may be unaware of this.  To mitigate this lack of feedback,
   this document describes a method for a validating recursive resolver
   to automatically signal an error to an agent specified by the
   authoritative server.  DNS Error Reporting uses the DNS to report
   errors.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting/

There is also an htmlized version available at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-03

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-03


Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts


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