Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (The ALT Special Use Top Level Domain) to Proposed Standard

[John Levine]

It appears that Mark Nottingham   said:
>This seems fine. 
>
>I do wonder whether 'alt' is appropriate -- 'alternative' begs the question of 
>'alternative to what?' and the
>answer is a technical detail that most Internet users are blissfully unaware 
>of. It seems to me that it'd be
>better to choose something meaningful to users.
>
>That said, I struggle to suggest anything specific, and we have plenty of 
>examples of seemingly-relative names
>still working in practice -- e.g., 'New York.'  

The original impeteus was the alt.* usenet hierarcy.

This draft has been bouncing around since 2014 and I don't ever recall
anyone suggesting a name that worked beter than "alt". I think we
believe that it doesn't mean something grossly offensive in any
language we know.

R's,
John

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Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (The ALT Special Use Top Level Domain) to Proposed Standard

[Martin Thomson]

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, at 09:44, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> I do wonder whether 'alt' is appropriate -- 'alternative' begs the 
> question of 'alternative to what?' and the answer is a technical detail 
> that most Internet users are blissfully unaware of. It seems to me that 
> it'd be better to choose something meaningful to users.

I still don't know why ".arc" never got off the ground.  An expansion of 
"alternative resolution context" addresses the DNS-centric perspective; the 
word implies OIDs, which interesting properties; and, who can resist the 
homonym, especially when there is Ark B [1].

[1] https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Golgafrinchan_Ark_Fleet_Ship_B

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Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (The ALT Special Use Top Level Domain) to Proposed Standard

[Mark Nottingham]

This seems fine. 

I do wonder whether 'alt' is appropriate -- 'alternative' begs the question of 
'alternative to what?' and the answer is a technical detail that most Internet 
users are blissfully unaware of. It seems to me that it'd be better to choose 
something meaningful to users.

That said, I struggle to suggest anything specific, and we have plenty of 
examples of seemingly-relative names still working in practice -- e.g., 'New 
York.'  

Cheers,


> On 14 Mar 2023, at 1:21 am, The IESG  wrote:
> 
> 
> The IESG has received a request from the Domain Name System Operations WG
> (dnsop) to consider the following document: - 'The ALT Special Use Top Level
> Domain'
>   as Proposed Standard
> 
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> last-c...@ietf.org mailing lists by 2023-04-10. Exceptionally, comments may
> be sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning
> of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
> 
> Abstract
> 
> 
>   This document reserves a TLD label, "alt" to be used in non-DNS
>   contexts.  It also provides advice and guidance to developers
>   developing alternative namespaces.
> 
>   [ This document is being collaborated on in Github at
>   .  The most
>   recent version of the document, open issues, etc should all be
>   available here.  The authors (gratefully) accept pull requests. ]
> 
> 
> The file can be obtained via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld/
> 
> 
> No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
> 
> 
> 
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[DNSOP] Last Call: (The ALT Special Use Top Level Domain) to Proposed Standard

[The IESG]

The IESG has received a request from the Domain Name System Operations WG
(dnsop) to consider the following document: - 'The ALT Special Use Top Level
Domain'
   as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
last-c...@ietf.org mailing lists by 2023-04-10. Exceptionally, comments may
be sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning
of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract


   This document reserves a TLD label, "alt" to be used in non-DNS
   contexts.  It also provides advice and guidance to developers
   developing alternative namespaces.

   [ This document is being collaborated on in Github at
   .  The most
   recent version of the document, open issues, etc should all be
   available here.  The authors (gratefully) accept pull requests. ]


The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.





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