Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-07

2007-07-10 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 05:38:19AM +, Paul Vixie wrote:

 A zone's name servers should be reachable by all IP transport
 protocols (e.g., IPv4 and IPv6) in common use.

 what i meant was that a zone should have servers reachable by every
 IP transport protocol in common use, in order that the zone be reachable
 by all DNS initiators no matter what IP transport protocol they're using.

I haven't seen alternative text proposed; here's some: 

  The set of name servers for a zone should be reachable via all
  versions of IP (e.g. IPv4 and IPv6) in common use.

I think that expresses what you wanted, and also gets rid of the
transport protocols nit that Rob noted.  (To emphasise, though, this
whole discussion is a nit as far as I'm concerned; I'm happy to see it
go ahead without the change.  It seems like an editorial matter to me.)

A

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Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-07

2007-06-11 Thread Kenji Rikitake
I reviewed the draft (sorry I was not in Prague).  My comment which does
not duplicate the previous comments of Joe Abley, Andrew Sullivan, and
Rob Austein:

   4.5. Multi-homing of name servers across protocol families is less
   likely to lead to or encounter truncation, partly because multiprotocol
   clients are more likely to speak EDNS which can use a larger response
   size limit, and partly because the resource records (A and ) are in
   different RRsets and are therefore divisible from each other.

I think a small piece of sentence explaining why multiprotocol clients
are more likely to speak EDNS will make the whole paragraph more clear
to understand, such as by changing the part as

... partly because multiprotocol clients, which is required to
handle larger RRsets such as  RRs, are more likely to ...

In general, I support this document to be proceeded in next phase soon
as possible.

// Kenji Rikitake

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Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-07

2007-06-06 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Sullivan) writes:

 I note that in section 2.2.3, we have this:

A zone's name servers should be reachable by all IP transport
protocols (e.g., IPv4 and IPv6) in common use.
 
 I have read differing opinions on whether it is better to have
 protocol-dedicated servers (on the grounds that it makes
 troubleshooting in a world of poorly implemented dual stacks easier)
 or to have all-protocol name servers.  I think therefore that the
 reasoning for the above claim should be spelled out in more detail.

what i meant was that a zone should have servers reachable by every
IP transport protocol in common use, in order that the zone be reachable
by all DNS initiators no matter what IP transport protocol they're using.

i can see that the writing as quoted above is sloppy, and doesn't say what
i thought it said, and i can clean it up if the WG thinks it's important.

 Other than that, I think this is a good and useful draft, and should
 be advanced.

me too!
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[DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-07

2007-06-05 Thread Andrew Sullivan
Dear colleagues,

It has taken me longer than I expected, but I have reviewed
draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-07.  

I note that in section 2.2.3, we have this:

   
   A zone's name servers should be reachable by all IP transport
   protocols (e.g., IPv4 and IPv6) in common use.

I have read differing opinions on whether it is better to have
protocol-dedicated servers (on the grounds that it makes
troubleshooting in a world of poorly implemented dual stacks easier)
or to have all-protocol name servers.  I think therefore that the
reasoning for the above claim should be spelled out in more detail.

Other than that, I think this is a good and useful draft, and should
be advanced.

A

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