Re: Wordlist in Wiktionary

2005-08-06 الحوار Nadim Shaikli
--- Isam Bayazidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well.. basically they are 2 different licenses, and it isn't possible to 
 have the GPL Wordlist put into the GFDL Wiktionary because the 2 licenses do 
 not allow freely re licencing or moving the content between the different 
 licenses, approval from authors or the copyright holder is a must.

That not withstanding, what are the differences which makes they
incompatible and what are some of their drawbacks - in other
words what is it that you gain/lose with one vs. the other ?  As
noted, I read (via google) all sorts of opinions and wanted to hear
what people on this list think and what the Wikipedia crowd believes.

Simply put - what would we lose if this GPL license became GFDL for
the sake of argument ?  M.Sameer ?

Salam.

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Re: Wordlist in Wiktionary

2005-08-06 الحوار Isam Bayazidi
As I heard from the Wikimedia Lawyer, reason they are incompatible is
that none of the 2 licences said that you could take something that is
under it, and put it in the other license. So nothing in the GPL text
says that you can use the GPL material under FDL, and so it is
incompatible. But knowing that the source of the FDL is the same source
of the GPL, the fears about what will we loose shouldn't prety much
exist.

One thing to put in mind is that the GPL was made with the Programmer
in mind, while the the FDL was made with the Author/writer in mind.. so
the FDL addresses issues that the GPL didn't cover such as making a
print versoin of the work, and the credit to author(s) and so on..

I don't think that the license of the Wordlist should change, but what
I am hoping for is a permission to use it under FDL.. let Wordlist
continue as you see fit, or double license it.. after all what matters
the most is to have the effort utilized while maintaining the freedom
of Free Software. And this is what FDL is about when it comes to
documentation, as GPL is for codeOn 8/6/05, Nadim Shaikli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Isam Bayazidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well.. basically they are 2 different licenses, and it isn't possible to have the GPL Wordlist put into the GFDL Wiktionary because the 2 licenses do
 not allow freely re licencing or moving the content between the different licenses, approval from authors or the copyright holder is a must.That not withstanding, what are the differences which makes they
incompatible and what are some of their drawbacks - in otherwords what is it that you gain/lose with one vs. the other ?Asnoted, I read (via google) all sorts of opinions and wanted to hearwhat people on this list think and what the Wikipedia crowd believes.
Simply put - what would we lose if this GPL license became GFDL forthe sake of argument ?M.Sameer ?Salam. - NadimStart your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
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Re: QaMoose v2.1

2005-08-06 الحوار Nadim Shaikli
--- ghita tijani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can you plz tell me where I need to check to know which encodings I have
 installed. 

Look into 'man locale'.

In the future do _NOT_ email things in private as I won't be replying -
the lists exist for a reason.

In passing, locales have nothing to do with arabic and are a generic
linux/unix issue so if you require more assistance ask your nearest
linux guru.

Salam.

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Re: QaMoose v2.1

2005-08-06 الحوار Youssef Chahibi
Does stardict arabic dictionary use the wordlist ? Is it up to date ?

Le Samedi 6 Août 2005 15:51, Nadim Shaikli a écrit :
 --- ghita tijani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can you plz tell me where I need to check to know which encodings I have
  installed.

 Look into 'man locale'.

 In the future do _NOT_ email things in private as I won't be replying -
 the lists exist for a reason.

 In passing, locales have nothing to do with arabic and are a generic
 linux/unix issue so if you require more assistance ask your nearest
 linux guru.

 Salam.

  - Nadim

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Re: Wordlist in Wiktionary

2005-08-06 الحوار Mohammed Sameer
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On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 08:01:04AM -0700, Nadim Shaikli wrote:
 --- Isam Bayazidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well.. basically they are 2 different licenses, and it isn't possible to 
  have the GPL Wordlist put into the GFDL Wiktionary because the 2 licenses 
  do 
  not allow freely re licencing or moving the content between the different 
  licenses, approval from authors or the copyright holder is a must.
 
 That not withstanding, what are the differences which makes they
 incompatible and what are some of their drawbacks - in other
 words what is it that you gain/lose with one vs. the other ?  As
 noted, I read (via google) all sorts of opinions and wanted to hear
 what people on this list think and what the Wikipedia crowd believes.
 
 Simply put - what would we lose if this GPL license became GFDL for
 the sake of argument ?  M.Sameer ?
 

I need to do some research, But my idea is:
You can't restrict the modifications for GPL'ed code. But with FDL you can say 
that this part shouldn't be modified. I guess this is why they are not 
comatible.

I still think that FDL is the best thing. Maybe CC-non commercial-attribution.

I still need to have a more detailed look.

I'll try to do it tomorrow.

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