Re: Requesting MWiki Account

2014-09-09 Thread Dave
Dear Andrea,

The English, German and French are practically identical. I made a couple
of very minor additions to the German version yesterday which I will add to
the English version.

I'm not so sure about the concept of stability. Over time (six years now)
it has become quite rounded, so basically stable I suppose.

I would quite like to give it to the community. So far I'm the only one
updating the files and I always make sure they really are parallel. But
what is the best way of going about it? As it is, it is a direct reflection
of my teaching to first year students at the Frankfurt University of
Applied Sciences. But since I will be quitting in April next year, I guess
I won't have any more new ideas to add - except for a planned video
exercise.

What would you suggest is the best way of going about it? I think it would
be a pity if my input sort of just "died out of existence".

Yours
Dave

On 9 September 2014 23:45, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> Dave wrote:
>
>> Perhaps I'm confused. But my documentation in English, Chinese (kindly
>> translated by Mark Hung), French and German is, so I thought, on the
>> official site openoffice.org.
>>
>
> It's advertised on the openoffice.org domain, but it's not hosted there.
> It's third-party documentation. Which is fine.
>
>  Then OpenOffice Wiki: Documentation area.
>> Then look under the title "User Guides for OpenOffice 3.3, 3.4 and 4.
>>
>
> Yes, if I open
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation
> I see a link to your (external, third-party) site. It's perfectly welcome
> to be there, as all other links to third-party documentation. But priority
> for us (for the OpenOffice project) is to get our collaboratively edited
> documentation available first.
>
> So in general I will prefer that people help the community efforts (and
> gain thus merit in the community) rather than helping third-party efforts.
> Especially if volunteers write to the community lists.
>
> That said, your model is clearly working well. It works surely better than
> the community efforts on the wiki at
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide
> So if you see something that in your experience works well in enabling
> volunteers to translate we can surely share ideas. For example, it seems
> that your case you provide new volunteers with an ODT file and ask that
> they translate it. How does it work with updates? Are you the only person
> authorized to edit the English version? Are translations aligned in some
> way? Does it help to have a "stable" English text to be translated first,
> and focus on translations only then?
>
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: Introduction

2014-09-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 09/09/2014 Aarti Varma wrote:

My name is Aarti Varma (I go by Sonu) and I have just joined the mailing
list. I am a software developer focusing on Android. I've been wanting to
contribute to some open source projects for a while, and since I love
writing I thought documentation and tutorials would be a good place to
start.


OK, so your favorite choice would be to write some new documentation. 
This is excellent, since we have dozens of pages that are simply waiting 
for volunteers. You find them here:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide
and there's a lot of choice, covering all modules: just click around to 
find the incomplete pages and tell us what you would like to work on.


There are some community priorities also for Hindi translations (like 
translating the Hindi site: http://www.openoffice.org/hi ) but since 
your favorite field is documentation we'll be happy with that at the moment!


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Requesting MWiki Account

2014-09-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Dave wrote:

Perhaps I'm confused. But my documentation in English, Chinese (kindly
translated by Mark Hung), French and German is, so I thought, on the
official site openoffice.org.


It's advertised on the openoffice.org domain, but it's not hosted there. 
It's third-party documentation. Which is fine.



Then OpenOffice Wiki: Documentation area.
Then look under the title "User Guides for OpenOffice 3.3, 3.4 and 4.


Yes, if I open
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation
I see a link to your (external, third-party) site. It's perfectly 
welcome to be there, as all other links to third-party documentation. 
But priority for us (for the OpenOffice project) is to get our 
collaboratively edited documentation available first.


So in general I will prefer that people help the community efforts (and 
gain thus merit in the community) rather than helping third-party 
efforts. Especially if volunteers write to the community lists.


That said, your model is clearly working well. It works surely better 
than the community efforts on the wiki at

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide
So if you see something that in your experience works well in enabling 
volunteers to translate we can surely share ideas. For example, it seems 
that your case you provide new volunteers with an ODT file and ask that 
they translate it. How does it work with updates? Are you the only 
person authorized to edit the English version? Are translations aligned 
in some way? Does it help to have a "stable" English text to be 
translated first, and focus on translations only then?


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Requesting MWiki Account

2014-09-09 Thread Dave
Dear Andrea, dear Sonu,

Perhaps I'm confused. But my documentation in English, Chinese (kindly
translated by Mark Hung), French and German is, so I thought, on the
official site openoffice.org.

Start from there, then open "I need help with my OpenOffice".

Then open "Product documentation".

Then OpenOffice Wiki: Documentation area.

Then look under the title "User Guides for OpenOffice 3.3, 3.4 and 4.

I do think this guide is useful for students with very little time to
google around for solutions when writing a thesis. Of course, most students
around the world master English to a greater or lesser degree. But having
something in their own native language could be an added incentive.

It would be interesting to do a small survey to find out if students who
have Hindi as their mother tongue would find a translation useful.

Yours,
Dave

On 9 September 2014 11:06, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> On 09/09/2014 Aarti Varma wrote:
>
>> I speak Hindi and English fluently. I don't think most Hindi speakers
>> would
>> require a translation as they can usually also speak English quite well.
>> However, I would be happy to translate it if there is any demand.
>>
>
> As for translations, we very much prefer that volunteers help with the
> official project resources (those hosted under the openoffice.org domain)
> before moving on to other documentation, since resources hosted on the
> openoffice.org domain are more visible and benefit more people. But I'll
> give you more details when replying to your introduction mail!
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: Requesting MWiki Account

2014-09-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 09/09/2014 Isha thk wrote:

I see that the user guide doc is minimal for Open Office Draw and wish to
add a few topics there. Specifically, I would like to work on the topic of
Connectors under Styles on Draw as it is listed as TODO.
Let me know if I can go forward with this.


Sure, thanks! It's very good if you take initiative. Feel free to start 
drafting content directly at

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Draw/Styles#Connector
then you can ask for review here.

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  Andrea.

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Re: Requesting MWiki Account

2014-09-09 Thread Isha thk
Hi,

My name is Isha and I would like to get started as a volunteer with the
documentation team.
I see that the user guide doc is minimal for Open Office Draw and wish to
add a few topics there. Specifically, I would like to work on the topic of
Connectors under Styles on Draw as it is listed as TODO.
Let me know if I can go forward with this.

Isha

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Isha thk  wrote:

> Hi Andrea,
> I'd like to work on the topic of* Connectors* in *Apache Open Office User
> Guide: Draw* under the topic of *Styles on Draw*.
>
> I see that documentation on Connectors is non-existent and is listed as
> TODO under the main page Styles on Draw.
> Let me know if I should go forward with this.
>
> After that I would also like to add a section on 'Creating Charts' in
> Draw.
>
> Isha
>
> On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
> wrote:
>
>> On 06/09/2014 Isha thk wrote:
>>
>>> My name is Isha Thaker and I would like to get started as a volunteer
>>> with
>>> the documentation team. I request you to create an MWiki account for me.
>>>
>>
>> Welcome, account created. You will receive a temporary password within a
>> few minutes.
>>
>> The part that you should have a look at is:
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide
>> Please take a look and come back with suggestions on how we can improve
>> it or what you'd like to work on!
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>
>
>


Re: Requesting MWiki Account

2014-09-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 09/09/2014 Aarti Varma wrote:

I speak Hindi and English fluently. I don't think most Hindi speakers would
require a translation as they can usually also speak English quite well.
However, I would be happy to translate it if there is any demand.


As for translations, we very much prefer that volunteers help with the 
official project resources (those hosted under the openoffice.org 
domain) before moving on to other documentation, since resources hosted 
on the openoffice.org domain are more visible and benefit more people. 
But I'll give you more details when replying to your introduction mail!


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Introduction

2014-09-09 Thread Aarti Varma
Hi Everyone,

My name is Aarti Varma (I go by Sonu) and I have just joined the mailing
list. I am a software developer focusing on Android. I've been wanting to
contribute to some open source projects for a while, and since I love
writing I thought documentation and tutorials would be a good place to
start. Please let me know what projects are currently in progress that I
can contribute on. I would really like to get started!

Cheers,
Sonu


Re: Requesting MWiki Account

2014-09-09 Thread Aarti Varma
Hi Dave,

I speak Hindi and English fluently. I don't think most Hindi speakers would
require a translation as they can usually also speak English quite well.
However, I would be happy to translate it if there is any demand. :)

Cheers,
Sonu

On Tuesday, September 9, 2014, Dave  wrote:

> Hi Sonu,
>
> May I enquire which is your native tongue? My introduction for students has
> now been translated into Chinese, I myself did English, French and German,
> friends of mine are progressing with the Arabic translation. Have a look:
>
> openoffice-uni.org
>
> Yours
> Dave
>
> On 9 September 2014 00:00, Aarti Varma  > wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to request an MWiki Account with
> >
> > email address: ms.aartiva...@gmail.com 
> > username:sonusonu
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Sonu
> >
>


Re: Whitelist CWiki Account

2014-09-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 09/09/2014 Aarti Varma wrote:

Can the account with username "sonusonu" please be whitelisted?


Welcome, whitelisted.

Andrea

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Re: Requesting MWiki Account

2014-09-09 Thread Dave
Hi Sonu,

May I enquire which is your native tongue? My introduction for students has
now been translated into Chinese, I myself did English, French and German,
friends of mine are progressing with the Arabic translation. Have a look:

openoffice-uni.org

Yours
Dave

On 9 September 2014 00:00, Aarti Varma  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I would like to request an MWiki Account with
>
> email address: ms.aartiva...@gmail.com
> username:sonusonu
>
> Thank you,
> Sonu
>