DOCBOOK: oasis xml docbook page needs to be updated?
www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml while that page says that DocBook XML V4.2 is the current version of DocBook, the most recent link is to DocBook XML V4.2CR3. perhaps the addition of a link with the more obvious name of simply V4.2? rday
DOCBOOK: Uniq values of ID attributes
Hello! 1. I'm join modular DocBook/XML documents and get errors for already declared values of ID attributes (each in separated documents). It's possible to do common attribute id uniq not for all document, in some levels only ? 2. It's possible to add fallback element within xref element ? And also for all idref's attributes? This may be another way to linking between documents, which located in one set of documents. PS On page http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/ch01.html exist small text error in first para: you only need to skim this chapter. probably must be: ...to skip... -- Regards, Vyt mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DOCBOOK: Uniq values of ID attributes
At 05:34 28/07/2002, Vitaly Ostanin wrote: Hello! 1. I'm join modular DocBook/XML documents and get errors for already declared values of ID attributes (each in separated documents). It's possible to do common attribute id uniq not for all document, in some levels only ? No, the id values must be unique to the whole document you are parsing. 2. It's possible to add fallback element within xref element ? And also for all idref's attributes? I don't think so, but I'm not sure I understand. Do you have an example? This may be another way to linking between documents, which located in one set of documents. PS On page http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/ch01.html exist small text error in first para: you only need to skim this chapter. probably must be: ...to skip... grin/ English, to skim is to read very quickly, without understanding all of it. HTH DaveP
Re: DOCBOOK: Uniq values of ID attributes
Dave Pawson wrote: At 05:34 28/07/2002, Vitaly Ostanin wrote: Hello! 1. I'm join modular DocBook/XML documents and get errors for already declared values of ID attributes (each in separated documents). It's possible to do common attribute id uniq not for all document, in some levels only ? No, the id values must be unique to the whole document you are parsing. Then authors of modular documents must to use long name values for id's. And this names will depend of document's structure :( Ok. May be usable adding element for use XPointer or XLink functionality ? 2. It's possible to add fallback element within xref element ? And also for all idref's attributes? I don't think so, but I'm not sure I understand. Do you have an example? Sorry. In XInclude within element xi:include exist element xi:fallback for control errors of includes. In DocBook DTD idref attributes point to id which must exist, right? It's possible to add element, which will control situation when id not exist in current edition ? id may be visible after join of documents. skipped -- Regards, Vyt mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DOCBOOK: Uniq values of ID attributes
At 08:06 28/07/2002, Vitaly Ostanin wrote: It's possible to do common attribute id uniq not for all document, in some levels only ? No, the id values must be unique to the whole document you are parsing. Then authors of modular documents must to use long name values for id's. And this names will depend of document's structure :( Ok. Having seen what docbook stuff uses, I steal those ideas. E.g. a chapter on subject pages, chapter id='pgs' then example id='pgs.ex.1' etc, so the names relate to the subject? May be usable adding element for use XPointer or XLink functionality ? 2. It's possible to add fallback element within xref element ? And also for all idref's attributes? I don't think so, but I'm not sure I understand. Do you have an example? Sorry. In XInclude within element xi:include exist element xi:fallback for control errors of includes. I will wait for someone else to answer that one! I have tried olink, but not include. In DocBook DTD idref attributes point to id which must exist, right? Yes, at parse time. It's possible to add element, which will control situation when id not exist in current edition ? id may be visible after join of documents. No. Its an error if the id does not exist at parse time. Perhaps olink would help. http://www.sagehill.net/OlinkExtended.html may give you some help. regards DaveP.
Re: DOCBOOK: Uniq values of ID attributes
On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 07:06:26PM +0400, Vitaly Ostanin wrote: Dave Pawson wrote: At 05:34 28/07/2002, Vitaly Ostanin wrote: Hello! 1. I'm join modular DocBook/XML documents and get errors for already declared values of ID attributes (each in separated documents). It's possible to do common attribute id uniq not for all document, in some levels only ? No, the id values must be unique to the whole document you are parsing. Then authors of modular documents must to use long name values for id's. And this names will depend of document's structure :( Ok. May be usable adding element for use XPointer or XLink functionality ? The DocBook Technical Committee is just starting the process of looking at XLinks for the DTD. At some point this may be a feature. 2. It's possible to add fallback element within xref element ? And also for all idref's attributes? I don't think so, but I'm not sure I understand. Do you have an example? Sorry. In XInclude within element xi:include exist element xi:fallback for control errors of includes. The xi:fallback element is not yet supported in the only Xinclude processor I know, which is xsltproc. But xref is not an xinclude, so I'm not sure how this applies. Do you mean you want xref to be able to declare some fallback text if the generated text is not available? In DocBook DTD idref attributes point to id which must exist, right? It's possible to add element, which will control situation when id not exist in current edition ? id may be visible after join of documents. That's true, and you don't find out until you vaildate the joined document. I don't know of another tool that can check across includes or system entities for ID/IDREFs. -- Bob Stayton 400 Encinal Street Publications Architect Santa Cruz, CA 95060 Technical Publications voice: (831) 427-7796 Caldera International, Inc. fax: (831) 429-1887 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
