[docbook-apps] MathML and fo:instream-foreign-object

2007-03-30 Thread Mads Ipsen
Hey,

In order to get MathML rendered with Antenna House's XSLFormatter, you
need to wrap all MathML blocks inside a fo:instream-foreign-object
element. If I (very naively) do

  xsl:template match=mml:* xmlns:mml=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
fo:instream-foreign-object
  xsl:copy
xsl:copy-of select=@*/
xsl:apply-templates/
  /xsl:copy
/fo:instream-foreign-object
  /xsl:template

I get something like this in the FO file

 fo:instream-foreign-object xmlns:mml=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/M
athMLfo:instream-foreign-objectmml:math overflow=scroll
fo:instream-foreign-objectmml:mrow
  fo:instream-foreign-objectmml:msup

etc. All I wanted was to have the outer most MathML wrapped in the
fo:instream-foreign-object element. This naturely puts my inane
XSL capabilities on display, but I would still be very happy if somebody
could point me at a solution.

Cuurently, I use a sed command for solving the issue, but would prefer
somthing that could go inside my cust. layer.

All the best (and happy Easter),

Mads

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Re: [docbook-apps] MathML and fo:instream-foreign-object

2007-03-30 Thread Jirka Kosek
Mads Ipsen wrote:

 In order to get MathML rendered with Antenna House's XSLFormatter, you
 need to wrap all MathML blocks inside a fo:instream-foreign-object
 element. If I (very naively) do

Get the latest snapshot from http://docbook.sf.net/snapshots/
I have fixed exactly this week or two ago.

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Re: [docbook-apps] MathML and fo:instream-foreign-object

2007-03-30 Thread Chris Chiasson

Did you fix this:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1574016group_id=21935atid=373749

[ 1574016 ] docbook 5 imagedata svg and mml support

?

Also, in the namespaced version of the xsl 1 stylesheets, is it now
possible to create a version that doesn't require MathML elements to
have a prefix?

On 3/30/07, Jirka Kosek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mads Ipsen wrote:

 In order to get MathML rendered with Antenna House's XSLFormatter, you
 need to wrap all MathML blocks inside a fo:instream-foreign-object
 element. If I (very naively) do

Get the latest snapshot from http://docbook.sf.net/snapshots/
I have fixed exactly this week or two ago.

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Re: [docbook-apps] MathML and fo:instream-foreign-object

2007-03-30 Thread Jirka Kosek
Chris Chiasson wrote:
 Did you fix this:
 
 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1574016group_id=21935atid=373749
 
 
 [ 1574016 ] docbook 5 imagedata svg and mml support
 
 ?

No, I will look into this issue later, hopefully during the weekend.

 Also, in the namespaced version of the xsl 1 stylesheets, is it now
 possible to create a version that doesn't require MathML elements to
 have a prefix?

XSLT is not prefix aware, so you can use any prefix for your MathML
elements, including using no prefix and relying on default namespace, like:

article
  titleMathML test/title

  paraFraction inlineequationmath
xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;mfracmn1/mnmin/mi/mfrac/math/inlineequation/para
/article

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Re: [docbook-apps] MathML and fo:instream-foreign-object

2007-03-30 Thread Chris Chiasson

On 3/30/07, Jirka Kosek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also, in the namespaced version of the xsl 1 stylesheets, is it now
 possible to create a version that doesn't require MathML elements to
 have a prefix?

XSLT is not prefix aware, so you can use any prefix for your MathML
elements, including using no prefix and relying on default namespace, like:

article
  titleMathML test/title

  paraFraction inlineequationmath
xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;mfracmn1/mnmin/mi/mfrac/math/inlineequation/para
/article



Does this work with the current stylesheets, or is it still looking
for elements with the mml: (or svg: ) prefix? I think the reason the
old stylesheets needed the prefixes was that they did not use
namespaces. Is that true?



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Re: [docbook-apps] MathML and fo:instream-foreign-object

2007-03-30 Thread Jirka Kosek
Chris Chiasson wrote:

 Does this work with the current stylesheets,

Yes, but at this time you have to download snapshot release.

 or is it still looking
 for elements with the mml: (or svg: ) prefix? I think the reason the
 old stylesheets needed the prefixes was that they did not use
 namespaces. Is that true?

No, stylesheet can use completely different prefixes then instance.
Matching is done on namespace name (URI). I'm probably misunderstanding
your problem here.

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Re: [docbook-apps] MathML and fo:instream-foreign-object

2007-03-30 Thread Chris Chiasson

On 3/30/07, Jirka Kosek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chris Chiasson wrote:

 Does this work with the current stylesheets,

Yes, but at this time you have to download snapshot release.

 or is it still looking
 for elements with the mml: (or svg: ) prefix? I think the reason the
 old stylesheets needed the prefixes was that they did not use
 namespaces. Is that true?

No, stylesheet can use completely different prefixes then instance.
Matching is done on namespace name (URI). I'm probably misunderstanding
your problem here.


In html/math.xsl, there were some lines like this:

!-- Support for MathML --

xsl:template match=mml:* xmlns:mml=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
 xsl:copy
   xsl:copy-of select=@*/
   xsl:apply-templates/
 /xsl:copy
/xsl:template

As far as I know, this means that MathML was only passed through if it
had an mml: prefix. I assume this was done because of the
non-namespaced template matching. So, is that a correct assessment? Is
the requirement for the prefix still present?

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RE: [docbook-apps] generating a JavaHelp glossary file

2007-03-30 Thread Mauritz Jeanson
 -Original Message-
 From: Brett Leber 

 I'm wondering if it's possible to generate a JavaHelp 
 glossary file from 
 DocBook source using the existing style sheets. 


No, it is not possible. This JavaHelp 2.0 feature is currently not supported
in the stock JavaHelp stylesheet. 

/MJ



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Re: [docbook-apps] generating a JavaHelp glossary file

2007-03-30 Thread Brett Leber

Thanks. Would be a nice extension to the stock JavaHelp stylesheet.

Brett

On 3/30/2007 11:07 AM, Mauritz Jeanson wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Brett Leber 


I'm wondering if it's possible to generate a JavaHelp 
glossary file from 
DocBook source using the existing style sheets. 



No, it is not possible. This JavaHelp 2.0 feature is currently not supported
in the stock JavaHelp stylesheet. 


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Re: [docbook-apps] MathML and fo:instream-foreign-object

2007-03-30 Thread Bob Stayton
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From: Chris Chiasson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Jirka Kosek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Mads Ipsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] MathML and fo:instream-foreign-object



On 3/30/07, Jirka Kosek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chris Chiasson wrote:

 Does this work with the current stylesheets,

Yes, but at this time you have to download snapshot release.

 or is it still looking
 for elements with the mml: (or svg: ) prefix? I think the reason the
 old stylesheets needed the prefixes was that they did not use
 namespaces. Is that true?

No, stylesheet can use completely different prefixes then instance.
Matching is done on namespace name (URI). I'm probably misunderstanding
your problem here.


In html/math.xsl, there were some lines like this:

!-- Support for MathML --

xsl:template match=mml:* 
xmlns:mml=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;

 xsl:copy
   xsl:copy-of select=@*/
   xsl:apply-templates/
 /xsl:copy
/xsl:template

As far as I know, this means that MathML was only passed through if it
had an mml: prefix. I assume this was done because of the
non-namespaced template matching. So, is that a correct assessment? Is
the requirement for the prefix still present?



Hi Chris,
No, that is not the correct assessment.  8^)
The prefix string does not matter, all that matters in the stylesheet is 
that there is a prefix in the match attribute, and it is assigned to the 
mathml namespace name http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML using the xmlns 
attribute.  That assignment can be done on the root element of the 
stylesheet so the namespace scope is the entire stylesheet, or in the 
individual stylesheet elements as is done here.


Your document can use a different prefix, or use the default namespace, as 
long as the namespace name is assigned.  The above template will match on 
all of these  elements in your document:


m:mml xmlns:m=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;

math:mml xmlns:math=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;

bob:mml xmlns:bob=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;

mml xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;

It will *not* match on mml:mml if the namespace prefix mml: is not 
assigned to the namespace name.


Hope that helps.

Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
DocBook Consulting
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Re: [docbook-apps] Carriage Return/Line Feed within informaltable cells on PDF

2007-03-30 Thread Colin Shapiro

That's a lot simpler than the way I had done it in the past.  Thanks.

Colin


On 3/29/07, Ron Catterall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 It's very easy to put in an extra fo block to act as a line break

!-- PI to cause a line break - usage ?lb? --
xsl:template match=processing-instruction('lb')
fo:block/
/xsl:template
 Does this help?

Ron



I have personally never been able to get any kind of line breaks to work
by attempting to insert them into a source file.

Instead, I have had to do things with a customization layer in XSLT, to
produce separate fo:block elements to break lines.

I can post an example if you'd like, but in the meantime I'd like to know
if anyone else has a better solution.

Colin

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Hello,

I am new here and especially new with using Docbook. I want to create
Reports with results of softwaretests.
I used an informaltable. Within the tablecells I have text with includes a
char(10) -- Carriage return.
The PDF result ignores these CR/LF.
Does someone know to solve this? I can also transform the chr(10) to an
other character before converting.

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Re: [docbook-apps] Stripping comments

2007-03-30 Thread Bob Stayton

You could use XSLT, but you might not like the results.  8^)
You start with an identity stylesheet such as the following:

?xml version=1.0?
xsl:stylesheet xmlns:xsl=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform;
   version=1.0

xsl:output indent=no/

xsl:template match=node()|@*
   xsl:copy
 xsl:apply-templates select=@*/
 xsl:apply-templates/
  /xsl:copy
/xsl:template

/xsl:stylesheet

Then you add a template to strip out comments:

xsl:template match=comment()/

There are several problems with using XSLT though:

1.  Entity references are expanded, not preserved as entity references. 
You can't hide them in XSLT because the parser expands them before the 
stylesheet sees them.


2.  Any DOCTYPE declaration is removed.  You have to copy your doctype 
public and system identifiers to the xsl:output element's doctype-public 
and doctype-system attributes.  The stylesheet can't do it, because the 
DOCTYPE is not accessible to XPath.  Any internal DTD subset is lost, as 
there is no way for xsl:output to specify it.


3.  Default DocBook attributes are added.  You will end up with a lot of 
moreinfo=none attributes on elements like literal.


4.  The output will differ in other ways because the XML is parsed and then 
re-serialized: attribute order may be different, empty elements may be 
expressed differently, character references will become native UTF-8 
(unless you specify a different output encoding).  These differences will 
show up in a text diff program, but not an XML-aware differencing program.


Generally, I use Perl for such filtering.  The XML comment string is a well 
defined regular expression, and Perl doesn't mess with any XML stuff.  I 
read the entire file into a single string, globally replace comments with 
nothing, and then print the string.


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From: Paul Moloney [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:45 AM
Subject: [docbook-apps] Stripping comments




One task I have it to package our source XML files for use by 
integrators;

one thing I'd like to do is first strip the comments from these files as
they may contain sensitive information.

I was thinking that this could be done by processing each file through 
Saxon
using a stylesheet which strips out comments and outputs the XML again. 
But
rather than risk reinventing the wheel, I was wondering if anyone out 
there

has implemented a DocBook comment stripper in their build process?

Thanks,

P.
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Re: [docbook-apps] Stripping comments

2007-03-30 Thread Kells Kearney

 Here's a quick perl solution that doesn't read everything into
memory and seems to handle some of the edge cases.  Try it out on a
few things to verify that everything is okay before completely
trusting it, though. :)

 Copy the lines between '' into a file (say
strip_xml_comments.pl).

(if on Unix do this step first)
chmod 755 strip_xml_comments.pl

  Make a backup copy of any and all files that you'll be using.  (The
script should work fine as is, but it's *MUCH* better to be safe than
sorry. :)

  Now you should be able to run the script on a copy of your input file.

strip_xml_comments.pl my_xml_input_file.xml

  The script will make a backup copy of its own with '.orig' at the
end of the name. (Please don't just rely on this feature -- make your
own backup.)

 Verify that everything looks okay and integrate it into your
application stream.

 Here's the script

--
#!/usr/bin/perl -w -i.orig

#
# NB: Delete the '.orig' portion if backup copies are not desired
#

#
# Delete XML comments.
#


#
# Go through every file given on the command line
#
$in_comment= 0;
while(  ) {

#
# Match inline comments
#
s {
   !--# Match the opening delimiter.
   .*? # Match a minimal number of characters.
   -- # Match the closing delimiter.
} []gsx;

#
# Match multi-line comments
#
 if( /!--/ ) {
   $in_comment= 1;
   next;
 }

 #
 # Find the end of a multi-line comment and remove everything to that point.
 # NB: All other in-line comments have already been removed
 #
 if( /--/ ) {
s/.*--//;
   $in_comment= 0;
 }

 #
 # Ignore every line in the comment
 #
 if( $in_comment ) {
next;
 }

print;  # Print everything on the current line
}

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from the perlre man page (http://perldoc.perl.org/perlre.html).


 Hopefully this will suit your purposes!


kells



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Subject: [docbook-apps] Stripping comments



 One task I have it to package our source XML files for use by
 integrators;
 one thing I'd like to do is first strip the comments from these files as
 they may contain sensitive information.

 I was thinking that this could be done by processing each file through
 Saxon
 using a stylesheet which strips out comments and outputs the XML again.
 But
 rather than risk reinventing the wheel, I was wondering if anyone out
 there
 has implemented a DocBook comment stripper in their build process?

 Thanks,

 P.
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[docbook-apps] Re: [xep-support] cover pages front and back

2007-03-30 Thread Elliotte Harold

Bob Stayton wrote:

Hello,
The DocBook XSL stylesheets currently don't provide direct support for 
covers, only front title pages.  Covers can come in a variety of 
configurations, such as single-sheet for front and back, wrap-around 
with spine, or wrap-around without spine for saddle stitch.  Text 
placement and graphics are highly individual, so it is hard to write a 
general-purpose stylesheet for all possible designs.  Also, cover 
PDFs are often produced separately because their production process 
(color, heavier stock) may differ from the process for the book block.
 


While I agree with all that, it would still be very useful if there were 
some way to automatically stitch a cover provided from another source 
together with the DocBook XSL output; ideally without mucking up the 
page counts either. I.e. assume I have one of these:


1. A PDF or other graphic wrap around cover generated from another program
2. Separate graphic covers fro front and back and spine
3. An XML source document along with my own stylesheet to generate the 
covers in XSL-FO



Given one of those three inputs, would it be possible to somehow 
parameterize the DocBook XSL stylesheets so it could add extra pages for 
the front and back covers and pull in the external PDF (or GIF/PNG/etc.) 
 to make covers in the PDF?


I know we can;t do that now, but would this much be hard to add?

Also is there any sort of de facto standard for where the covers appear 
in pure PDF? e.g. if I buy a Pragmatics or O'Reilly or APress eBook, are 
the covers in the PDF I buy and if so where?


From a quick scan of the few such PDF books I have handy, it seems the 
front cover is included as a graphic on the first page. The back cover 
and spine are not included.


If nothing else, this is actually quite useful for Finder previews in 
Mac OS X.


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RE: [docbook-apps] Re: [xep-support] cover pages front and back

2007-03-30 Thread David Cramer (Tech Pubs)
You can get something pretty cover-like just using titlepages for front covers 
IMO. You can't do full page covers (e.g. with things that look like bleeds). If 
you need something fancy like that you need to write some custom stuff at this 
point. Here's a pretty old and kludgy example 
http://www.dpawson.co.uk/docbook/styling/titlepage.html#d2587e176 

Since covers are so custom, maybe it's just a matter of adding a hook for cover 
code to the base xsls? 

David

 -Original Message-
 From: Elliotte Harold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:35 PM
 To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [docbook-apps] Re: [xep-support] cover pages front and back
 
 Bob Stayton wrote:
  Hello,
  The DocBook XSL stylesheets currently don't provide direct 
 support for 
  covers, only front title pages.  Covers can come in a variety of 
  configurations, such as single-sheet for front and back, 
 wrap-around 
  with spine, or wrap-around without spine for saddle stitch.  Text 
  placement and graphics are highly individual, so it is hard 
 to write a 
  general-purpose stylesheet for all possible designs.  Also, 
 cover PDFs 
  are often produced separately because their production 
 process (color, 
  heavier stock) may differ from the process for the book block.
   
 
 While I agree with all that, it would still be very useful if 
 there were some way to automatically stitch a cover provided 
 from another source together with the DocBook XSL output; 
 ideally without mucking up the page counts either. I.e. 
 assume I have one of these:
 
 1. A PDF or other graphic wrap around cover generated from 
 another program 2. Separate graphic covers fro front and back 
 and spine 3. An XML source document along with my own 
 stylesheet to generate the covers in XSL-FO
 
 
 Given one of those three inputs, would it be possible to somehow 
 parameterize the DocBook XSL stylesheets so it could add 
 extra pages for 
 the front and back covers and pull in the external PDF (or 
 GIF/PNG/etc.) 
   to make covers in the PDF?
 
 I know we can;t do that now, but would this much be hard to add?
 
 Also is there any sort of de facto standard for where the 
 covers appear 
 in pure PDF? e.g. if I buy a Pragmatics or O'Reilly or APress 
 eBook, are 
 the covers in the PDF I buy and if so where?
 
  From a quick scan of the few such PDF books I have handy, it 
 seems the 
 front cover is included as a graphic on the first page. The 
 back cover 
 and spine are not included.
 
 If nothing else, this is actually quite useful for Finder previews in 
 Mac OS X.
 
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Re: [docbook-apps] MathML and fo:instream-foreign-object

2007-03-30 Thread Chris Chiasson

On 3/30/07, Bob Stayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Chris,
No, that is not the correct assessment.  8^)


Heh, my apologies :]


The prefix string does not matter, all that matters in the stylesheet is
that there is a prefix in the match attribute, and it is assigned to the
mathml namespace name http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML using the xmlns
attribute.  That assignment can be done on the root element of the
stylesheet so the namespace scope is the entire stylesheet, or in the
individual stylesheet elements as is done here.

Your document can use a different prefix, or use the default namespace, as
long as the namespace name is assigned.  The above template will match on
all of these  elements in your document:

m:mml xmlns:m=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;

math:mml xmlns:math=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;

bob:mml xmlns:bob=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;

mml xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;


(that last example is the one most like what I am looking to match)

Would the old docbook stylesheets template (the one that did the
namespace stripping) match on this example? What about the new version
that keeps the namespaces? I assume that the new version is able to
match because it can use the namespace instead of just the prefix (so
it doesn't require a prefix).

Example XML:

math xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
some math ml elements in here/
/math

Sorry for so many questions. If I have more I'll resolve them via
experimentation instead of filling up the mailing list :-]


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