Re: [docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code 2015 -- Last call for participants
On 10/02/15 08:47 PM, Steve Ball wrote: Hi All, My current project is to implement the DocBook roundtripping subsystem in a Web browser, using Saxon-CE. However, I feel it needs to be more advanced before getting a student to work on it. Happy to be convinced otherwise… Interesting idea. I think that, quite independent from GSoC, it would be very useful to keep project ideas as well as projects that are actively being worked on documented somewhere (on the DocBook wiki, perhaps), if only to display that there (still) is life in the DocBook project and community. Sometimes it feels to me as if it has gone into maintenance mode, with no or very little effort on development. To me, proposing again to participate in GSoC is (also) an attempt to see whether that's actually true or not. Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code 2015 -- Last call for participants
Hi All, My current project is to implement the DocBook roundtripping subsystem in a Web browser, using Saxon-CE. However, I feel it needs to be more advanced before getting a student to work on it. Happy to be convinced otherwise… Cheers, Steve Ball On 10 Feb 2015, at 8:32 am, Richard Hamilton hamil...@xmlpress.net wrote: So far, I've only received one message expressing interest in having the DocBook project apply to participate in the Google Summer of Code this year. The applications open today (Feb 9) and close in 10 days (Feb 20), so unless I hear from a few more people, I don't think it will make sense to apply this time around. I've enclosed my original message for your reference. If you're interested, now's your last chance to raise your hand. Best regards, Dick Hamilton --- XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net hamil...@xmlpress.net === As many of you know, the DocBook project (as distinct from the DocBook TC, though many people participate in both activities) applied to the program several times and was accepted twice. The program has brought us some useful software and, even more important, new contributors to the DocBook community. To participate this year, we need two things: 1) Mentors: we need at least 5 or 6 people who are willing to participate as mentors. 2) Ideas: we need ideas for projects that students can work on. I'm willing to be the organization administrator again this year, but I'm glad to hand over responsibility if someone else wants the job this year. For the full schedule and more information about the program, go to: https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page February 20 is the deadline for applications. To participate, we need to have mentors lined up by February 9, which is the opening date for filing applications. If you're interested in participating, you can reply to this message on the list or send me email directly at the address below. Best regards, Dick Hamilton - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
[docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code 2015 -- Last call for participants
So far, I've only received one message expressing interest in having the DocBook project apply to participate in the Google Summer of Code this year. The applications open today (Feb 9) and close in 10 days (Feb 20), so unless I hear from a few more people, I don't think it will make sense to apply this time around. I've enclosed my original message for your reference. If you're interested, now's your last chance to raise your hand. Best regards, Dick Hamilton --- XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net hamil...@xmlpress.net === As many of you know, the DocBook project (as distinct from the DocBook TC, though many people participate in both activities) applied to the program several times and was accepted twice. The program has brought us some useful software and, even more important, new contributors to the DocBook community. To participate this year, we need two things: 1) Mentors: we need at least 5 or 6 people who are willing to participate as mentors. 2) Ideas: we need ideas for projects that students can work on. I'm willing to be the organization administrator again this year, but I'm glad to hand over responsibility if someone else wants the job this year. For the full schedule and more information about the program, go to: https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page February 20 is the deadline for applications. To participate, we need to have mentors lined up by February 9, which is the opening date for filing applications. If you're interested in participating, you can reply to this message on the list or send me email directly at the address below. Best regards, Dick Hamilton - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
[docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code 2015
At today's DocBook TC meeting, we discussed the possibility of applying to be a mentoring organization for this year's Google Summer of Code. As many of you know, the DocBook project (as distinct from the DocBook TC, though many people participate in both activities) applied to the program several times and was accepted twice. The program has brought us some useful software and, even more important, new contributors to the DocBook community. To participate this year, we need two things: 1) Mentors: we need at least 5 or 6 people who are willing to participate as mentors. 2) Ideas: we need ideas for projects that students can work on. I'm willing to be the organization administrator again this year, but I'm glad to hand over responsibility if someone else wants the job this year. For the full schedule and more information about the program, go to: https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page February 20 is the deadline for applications. To participate, we need to have mentors lined up by February 9, which is the opening date for filing applications. If you're interested in participating, you can reply to this message on the list or send me email directly at the address below. Best regards, Dick Hamilton P.S. Sorry for the cross posting, but I wanted to make sure this gets out to the widest audience. --- XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net hamil...@xmlpress.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code 2012
Hi all, I have added new mandatory questions to our application page, and also changed the student template a little (the one inside the application page). Appreciate if someone can do a quick review to make sure no standards of DocBook are violated! http://docbook.xmlpress.net/tiki-index.php?page=application On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Tobias Anstett (K15t Software) tob...@k15t.com wrote: Hi Kasun, Our company developed a single source publishing core for the Confluence wiki - one of its implementations supports docbook export but also docbook import. The idea is that people leverage the collaborative and social features when writing their technical documentation or e.g. books (@sarahmaddox recently published a book at xmlpress using this approach - http://ffeathers.wordpress.com/ - Richard could tell you more about it) Of course the core can export to PDF, EPUB, Microsoft Word 2007/2010, EclipseHelp and others also providing a kind of customization layer (called templates) to reflect your layout. But docbook itself was still very important for us because people should be able to leverage their existing publication chain. Hi Tobias, Thanks for your views. I haven't completely understand the point you were trying to make. Were you referring to DocBook WebHelp output when saying your layout? If so, I think it's off-topic here. Cheers, Tobias -- Tobias Anstett, CTO Email: tob...@k15t.com | Mob. +49 (163) 1630 970 | Tel. +49 (711) 935 935-36 K15t Software GmbH, Senefelderstr. 17a, 70176 Stuttgart, GERMANY Tel. +49 (711) 935 935-30 | Fax. +49 (711) 935 935-39 Registration: Stuttgart HRB 729752, VAT ID: DE264753756 Geschaeftsfuehrer (CEO): Stefan Kleineikenscheidt http://www.k15t.com Single Source your Wiki. | Tools for wiki-based documentation. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Kasun Gajasinghe kasu...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Richard Hamilton hamil...@xmlpress.netwrote: Kasun, I have done neither, so far. If you know of any organizations that we should speak with, let me know and I'll approach them. I'll think about it. MoinMoin comes to my mind. Especially since we already have an idea related to MoinMoin (Improve DocBook integration of MoinMoin). Regarding the application page, my plan was to save a copy of the current page and start a new page using the new application. If you've got a little time and could start a new page with the application, that would be a big help because I'm in the middle of a very busy period for the next day or two. Sure. I'll move the current application page content to a new page application2011, and make the current application page the 2012 one. That way, the links to application won't be broken. We can do this again in 2013, by moving this application to application2012 and so on... Thanks, --KasunG Also, thanks for volunteering to be a mentor. I really appreciate it. Richard On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Kasun Gajasinghe wrote: Hi Richard, Have you or any other asked from other organizations to vouch for DocBook? Further, can I know your plan to update the application page? Some mandatory questions by Google [1] are not yet included in the application page. So, I was wondering whether you are keeping a draft of the application page in your local machine to get it to a certain standard before releasing! [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#mentoring_application Thanks, --Kasun On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Richard Hamilton hamil...@xmlpress.net wrote: Google Summer of Code is beginning to ramp up again for 2012. I just updated the DocBook GSoC wiki (http://docbook.xmlpress.net) for 2012, and it is now open for ideas, mentor sign-ups, and other input. Stefan Seefeld has volunteered to be co-administrator again (thanks Stefan), and XML Press is glad to be administrative contact. If you're interested in participating, check out the wiki, add some ideas, and sign up as a mentor. Right now, the ideas page and the application page are copied from 2011, so feel free to update/remove information as appropriate. As soon as I get a few minutes, I'll update the application page with any changes for 2012. Our ability to make a credible application that gets accepted by GSoC depends almost entirely on the level of interest and participation from the community, so if you're interested, speak up. The requirements on mentors are not that large, and it's a great chance to work with smart, dedicated students. Some of the students from 2010 have become active members of the DocBook community, so we know the program helps grow our base. The application period opens up on Feb 27 and extends to March 9. You can see more of the schedule, and pointers to Google's pages about the program, at http://docbook.xmlpress.net. Best Regards, Dick Hamilton --- XML
Re: [docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code 2012
Hi Richard, About getting vouched by other organizations - The question related to this in the application is, Are you a new organization who has a Googler or other organization to vouch for you? If so, please list their name(s) here We are not a new organization, but since we got unlucky last year, I think we should get another organization to vouch for us. MoinMoin is a good candidate as I've told you before. [1] Thomas Waldmann was their Google Summer of Code Organization Administrator in 2011, so may be you should contact him first. His contact info. can be found at [2]. Can organizations outside of GSoC vouch? I couldn't find the documentation by Google about the vouching process! Has OpenStack participated in GSoC before? If so, that's also a very good addition. They already uses a DocBook product that was developed as part of GSoC 2010 (Webhelp). And, in case, I wasn't clear before, I was thinking to be a co-mentor this year, because of limited knowledge about DocBook, I don't think I can fulfill the needs a student. I was thinking of co-mentoring WebHelp, if David is OK with it. :) David? [1] http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/10/moinmoins-google-summer-of-code-wrap-up.html [2] http://moinmo.in/ThomasWaldmann/Contact Thanks, --Kasun On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Kasun Gajasinghe kasu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have added new mandatory questions to our application page, and also changed the student template a little (the one inside the application page). Appreciate if someone can do a quick review to make sure no standards of DocBook are violated! http://docbook.xmlpress.net/tiki-index.php?page=application On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Tobias Anstett (K15t Software) tob...@k15t.com wrote: Hi Kasun, Our company developed a single source publishing core for the Confluence wiki - one of its implementations supports docbook export but also docbook import. The idea is that people leverage the collaborative and social features when writing their technical documentation or e.g. books (@sarahmaddox recently published a book at xmlpress using this approach - http://ffeathers.wordpress.com/ - Richard could tell you more about it) Of course the core can export to PDF, EPUB, Microsoft Word 2007/2010, EclipseHelp and others also providing a kind of customization layer (called templates) to reflect your layout. But docbook itself was still very important for us because people should be able to leverage their existing publication chain. Hi Tobias, Thanks for your views. I haven't completely understand the point you were trying to make. Were you referring to DocBook WebHelp output when saying your layout? If so, I think it's off-topic here. Cheers, Tobias -- Tobias Anstett, CTO Email: tob...@k15t.com | Mob. +49 (163) 1630 970 | Tel. +49 (711) 935 935-36 K15t Software GmbH, Senefelderstr. 17a, 70176 Stuttgart, GERMANY Tel. +49 (711) 935 935-30 | Fax. +49 (711) 935 935-39 Registration: Stuttgart HRB 729752, VAT ID: DE264753756 Geschaeftsfuehrer (CEO): Stefan Kleineikenscheidt http://www.k15t.com Single Source your Wiki. | Tools for wiki-based documentation. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Kasun Gajasinghe kasu...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Richard Hamilton hamil...@xmlpress.net wrote: Kasun, I have done neither, so far. If you know of any organizations that we should speak with, let me know and I'll approach them. I'll think about it. MoinMoin comes to my mind. Especially since we already have an idea related to MoinMoin (Improve DocBook integration of MoinMoin). Regarding the application page, my plan was to save a copy of the current page and start a new page using the new application. If you've got a little time and could start a new page with the application, that would be a big help because I'm in the middle of a very busy period for the next day or two. Sure. I'll move the current application page content to a new page application2011, and make the current application page the 2012 one. That way, the links to application won't be broken. We can do this again in 2013, by moving this application to application2012 and so on... Thanks, --KasunG Also, thanks for volunteering to be a mentor. I really appreciate it. Richard On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Kasun Gajasinghe wrote: Hi Richard, Have you or any other asked from other organizations to vouch for DocBook? Further, can I know your plan to update the application page? Some mandatory questions by Google [1] are not yet included in the application page. So, I was wondering whether you are keeping a draft of the application page in your local machine to get it to a certain standard before releasing! [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#mentoring_application Thanks, --Kasun On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Richard Hamilton hamil...@xmlpress.net
Re: [docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code 2012
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/2012 06:48 AM, Kasun Gajasinghe wrote: Hi Richard, About getting vouched by other organizations - The question related to this in the application is, Are you a new organization who has a Googler or other organization to vouch for you? If so, please list their name(s) here We are not a new organization, but since we got unlucky last year, I think we should get another organization to vouch for us. MoinMoin is a good candidate as I've told you before. [1] Thomas Waldmann was their Google Summer of Code Organization Administrator in 2011, so may be you should contact him first. His contact info. can be found at [2]. I think MoinMoin is promising. My sense is that the vouches should come from open source orgs that have participated in GSoC before. MoinMoin has a long record of participating in GSoC. Can organizations outside of GSoC vouch? I couldn't find the documentation by Google about the vouching process! Has OpenStack participated in GSoC before? If so, that's also a very good addition. They already uses a DocBook product that was developed as part of GSoC 2010 (Webhelp). OpenStack hasn't participated before. Not sure if they'll apply this year. And, in case, I wasn't clear before, I was thinking to be a co-mentor this year, because of limited knowledge about DocBook, I don't think I can fulfill the needs a student. I was thinking of co-mentoring WebHelp, if David is OK with it. :) David? That would be great! I think next we need to turn our attention to the ideas page. Thanks, David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPUkrvAAoJEMHeSXG7afUhPaoH+wU+/w+i1Bo+/DgoFq1l0HVg ++t+rXl8HbN5LiYOhEkmS+W1OIUZdcrWUBBtsXblpVXwaIEgCpuLjXboMkQJ4qfS d8zgXpA/UpnONN3kdcnm8pPakp3XZl1EsBOiWRImvH2iW2vTn0QLA/CdNGSTC7dm TxekL7CrMsqBhSesEDMGjgKlCkT9cOQ9fb0taXeKlSErLIGj4ci3I7MP72PphG15 Bes5B3ox5nP1vXSIQysA0GTs/R+FKLtJw+E881vD77pvJFCHmh+75PM5K4bLvIuQ XXoo4XELRjfn+0tFmwSNRxv8D2ZpNdAUw2lW7uGoLLYqutvhFEoOZ7s8SgHmMtw= =jm30 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code 2012
Hi Richard, Have you or any other asked from other organizations to vouch for DocBook? Further, can I know your plan to update the application page? Some mandatory questions by Google [1] are not yet included in the application page. So, I was wondering whether you are keeping a draft of the application page in your local machine to get it to a certain standard before releasing! [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#mentoring_application Thanks, --Kasun On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Richard Hamilton hamil...@xmlpress.netwrote: Google Summer of Code is beginning to ramp up again for 2012. I just updated the DocBook GSoC wiki (http://docbook.xmlpress.net) for 2012, and it is now open for ideas, mentor sign-ups, and other input. Stefan Seefeld has volunteered to be co-administrator again (thanks Stefan), and XML Press is glad to be administrative contact. If you're interested in participating, check out the wiki, add some ideas, and sign up as a mentor. Right now, the ideas page and the application page are copied from 2011, so feel free to update/remove information as appropriate. As soon as I get a few minutes, I'll update the application page with any changes for 2012. Our ability to make a credible application that gets accepted by GSoC depends almost entirely on the level of interest and participation from the community, so if you're interested, speak up. The requirements on mentors are not that large, and it's a great chance to work with smart, dedicated students. Some of the students from 2010 have become active members of the DocBook community, so we know the program helps grow our base. The application period opens up on Feb 27 and extends to March 9. You can see more of the schedule, and pointers to Google's pages about the program, at http://docbook.xmlpress.net. Best Regards, Dick Hamilton --- XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net hamil...@xmlpress.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org -- ~~~***'***~~~ *Kasun Gajasinghe* Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com, *linked-in: *http://lk.linkedin.com/in/gajasinghe* * *blog: **http://blog.kasunbg.org* http://blog.kasunbg.org/ * twitter: **http://twitter.com/kasunbg* http://twitter.com/kasunbg
Re: [docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code 2012
Kasun, I have done neither, so far. If you know of any organizations that we should speak with, let me know and I'll approach them. Regarding the application page, my plan was to save a copy of the current page and start a new page using the new application. If you've got a little time and could start a new page with the application, that would be a big help because I'm in the middle of a very busy period for the next day or two. Also, thanks for volunteering to be a mentor. I really appreciate it. Richard On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Kasun Gajasinghe wrote: Hi Richard, Have you or any other asked from other organizations to vouch for DocBook? Further, can I know your plan to update the application page? Some mandatory questions by Google [1] are not yet included in the application page. So, I was wondering whether you are keeping a draft of the application page in your local machine to get it to a certain standard before releasing! [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#mentoring_application Thanks, --Kasun On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Richard Hamilton hamil...@xmlpress.net wrote: Google Summer of Code is beginning to ramp up again for 2012. I just updated the DocBook GSoC wiki (http://docbook.xmlpress.net) for 2012, and it is now open for ideas, mentor sign-ups, and other input. Stefan Seefeld has volunteered to be co-administrator again (thanks Stefan), and XML Press is glad to be administrative contact. If you're interested in participating, check out the wiki, add some ideas, and sign up as a mentor. Right now, the ideas page and the application page are copied from 2011, so feel free to update/remove information as appropriate. As soon as I get a few minutes, I'll update the application page with any changes for 2012. Our ability to make a credible application that gets accepted by GSoC depends almost entirely on the level of interest and participation from the community, so if you're interested, speak up. The requirements on mentors are not that large, and it's a great chance to work with smart, dedicated students. Some of the students from 2010 have become active members of the DocBook community, so we know the program helps grow our base. The application period opens up on Feb 27 and extends to March 9. You can see more of the schedule, and pointers to Google's pages about the program, at http://docbook.xmlpress.net. Best Regards, Dick Hamilton --- XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net hamil...@xmlpress.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org -- ~~~***'***~~~ Kasun Gajasinghe Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com, linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/in/gajasinghe blog: http://blog.kasunbg.org twitter: http://twitter.com/kasunbg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code 2012
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Richard Hamilton hamil...@xmlpress.netwrote: Kasun, I have done neither, so far. If you know of any organizations that we should speak with, let me know and I'll approach them. I'll think about it. MoinMoin comes to my mind. Especially since we already have an idea related to MoinMoin (Improve DocBook integration of MoinMoin). Regarding the application page, my plan was to save a copy of the current page and start a new page using the new application. If you've got a little time and could start a new page with the application, that would be a big help because I'm in the middle of a very busy period for the next day or two. Sure. I'll move the current application page content to a new page application2011, and make the current application page the 2012 one. That way, the links to application won't be broken. We can do this again in 2013, by moving this application to application2012 and so on... Thanks, --KasunG Also, thanks for volunteering to be a mentor. I really appreciate it. Richard On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Kasun Gajasinghe wrote: Hi Richard, Have you or any other asked from other organizations to vouch for DocBook? Further, can I know your plan to update the application page? Some mandatory questions by Google [1] are not yet included in the application page. So, I was wondering whether you are keeping a draft of the application page in your local machine to get it to a certain standard before releasing! [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#mentoring_application Thanks, --Kasun On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Richard Hamilton hamil...@xmlpress.net wrote: Google Summer of Code is beginning to ramp up again for 2012. I just updated the DocBook GSoC wiki (http://docbook.xmlpress.net) for 2012, and it is now open for ideas, mentor sign-ups, and other input. Stefan Seefeld has volunteered to be co-administrator again (thanks Stefan), and XML Press is glad to be administrative contact. If you're interested in participating, check out the wiki, add some ideas, and sign up as a mentor. Right now, the ideas page and the application page are copied from 2011, so feel free to update/remove information as appropriate. As soon as I get a few minutes, I'll update the application page with any changes for 2012. Our ability to make a credible application that gets accepted by GSoC depends almost entirely on the level of interest and participation from the community, so if you're interested, speak up. The requirements on mentors are not that large, and it's a great chance to work with smart, dedicated students. Some of the students from 2010 have become active members of the DocBook community, so we know the program helps grow our base. The application period opens up on Feb 27 and extends to March 9. You can see more of the schedule, and pointers to Google's pages about the program, at http://docbook.xmlpress.net. Best Regards, Dick Hamilton --- XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net hamil...@xmlpress.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org -- ~~~***'***~~~ Kasun Gajasinghe Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com, linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/in/gajasinghe blog: http://blog.kasunbg.org twitter: http://twitter.com/kasunbg -- ~~~***'***~~~ *Kasun Gajasinghe* Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com, *linked-in: *http://lk.linkedin.com/in/gajasinghe* * *blog: **http://blog.kasunbg.org* http://blog.kasunbg.org/ * twitter: **http://twitter.com/kasunbg* http://twitter.com/kasunbg
Re: [docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code 2012
Hi Kasun, Our company developed a single source publishing core for the Confluence wiki - one of its implementations supports docbook export but also docbook import. The idea is that people leverage the collaborative and social features when writing their technical documentation or e.g. books (@sarahmaddox recently published a book at xmlpress using this approach - http://ffeathers.wordpress.com/ - Richard could tell you more about it) Of course the core can export to PDF, EPUB, Microsoft Word 2007/2010, EclipseHelp and others also providing a kind of customization layer (called templates) to reflect your layout. But docbook itself was still very important for us because people should be able to leverage their existing publication chain. Cheers, Tobias -- Tobias Anstett, CTO Email: tob...@k15t.com | Mob. +49 (163) 1630 970 | Tel. +49 (711) 935 935-36 K15t Software GmbH, Senefelderstr. 17a, 70176 Stuttgart, GERMANY Tel. +49 (711) 935 935-30 | Fax. +49 (711) 935 935-39 Registration: Stuttgart HRB 729752, VAT ID: DE264753756 Geschaeftsfuehrer (CEO): Stefan Kleineikenscheidt http://www.k15t.com Single Source your Wiki. | Tools for wiki-based documentation. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Kasun Gajasinghe kasu...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Richard Hamilton hamil...@xmlpress.netwrote: Kasun, I have done neither, so far. If you know of any organizations that we should speak with, let me know and I'll approach them. I'll think about it. MoinMoin comes to my mind. Especially since we already have an idea related to MoinMoin (Improve DocBook integration of MoinMoin). Regarding the application page, my plan was to save a copy of the current page and start a new page using the new application. If you've got a little time and could start a new page with the application, that would be a big help because I'm in the middle of a very busy period for the next day or two. Sure. I'll move the current application page content to a new page application2011, and make the current application page the 2012 one. That way, the links to application won't be broken. We can do this again in 2013, by moving this application to application2012 and so on... Thanks, --KasunG Also, thanks for volunteering to be a mentor. I really appreciate it. Richard On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Kasun Gajasinghe wrote: Hi Richard, Have you or any other asked from other organizations to vouch for DocBook? Further, can I know your plan to update the application page? Some mandatory questions by Google [1] are not yet included in the application page. So, I was wondering whether you are keeping a draft of the application page in your local machine to get it to a certain standard before releasing! [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#mentoring_application Thanks, --Kasun On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Richard Hamilton hamil...@xmlpress.net wrote: Google Summer of Code is beginning to ramp up again for 2012. I just updated the DocBook GSoC wiki (http://docbook.xmlpress.net) for 2012, and it is now open for ideas, mentor sign-ups, and other input. Stefan Seefeld has volunteered to be co-administrator again (thanks Stefan), and XML Press is glad to be administrative contact. If you're interested in participating, check out the wiki, add some ideas, and sign up as a mentor. Right now, the ideas page and the application page are copied from 2011, so feel free to update/remove information as appropriate. As soon as I get a few minutes, I'll update the application page with any changes for 2012. Our ability to make a credible application that gets accepted by GSoC depends almost entirely on the level of interest and participation from the community, so if you're interested, speak up. The requirements on mentors are not that large, and it's a great chance to work with smart, dedicated students. Some of the students from 2010 have become active members of the DocBook community, so we know the program helps grow our base. The application period opens up on Feb 27 and extends to March 9. You can see more of the schedule, and pointers to Google's pages about the program, at http://docbook.xmlpress.net. Best Regards, Dick Hamilton --- XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net hamil...@xmlpress.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org -- ~~~***'***~~~ Kasun Gajasinghe Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com, linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/in/gajasinghe blog: http://blog.kasunbg.org twitter: http://twitter.com/kasunbg -- ~~~***'***~~~ *Kasun Gajasinghe* Software Engineer;
[docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code 2012
Google Summer of Code is beginning to ramp up again for 2012. I just updated the DocBook GSoC wiki (http://docbook.xmlpress.net) for 2012, and it is now open for ideas, mentor sign-ups, and other input. Stefan Seefeld has volunteered to be co-administrator again (thanks Stefan), and XML Press is glad to be administrative contact. If you're interested in participating, check out the wiki, add some ideas, and sign up as a mentor. Right now, the ideas page and the application page are copied from 2011, so feel free to update/remove information as appropriate. As soon as I get a few minutes, I'll update the application page with any changes for 2012. Our ability to make a credible application that gets accepted by GSoC depends almost entirely on the level of interest and participation from the community, so if you're interested, speak up. The requirements on mentors are not that large, and it's a great chance to work with smart, dedicated students. Some of the students from 2010 have become active members of the DocBook community, so we know the program helps grow our base. The application period opens up on Feb 27 and extends to March 9. You can see more of the schedule, and pointers to Google's pages about the program, at http://docbook.xmlpress.net. Best Regards, Dick Hamilton --- XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net hamil...@xmlpress.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
[docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code communication
I just spoke with one of the GSoC students, and we discussed possibilities for email communication related to the GSoC projects. Our conclusion was that the docbook apps mailing list was probably the best place for us to hold all but private email conversations, because this the mailing list seems to have the widest concentration of interested and knowledgeable people. Our concern was that if we created another list, members of the DocBook community would be out-of-the-loop and it would be harder for students to get feedback. I would not expect the volume to be large, and if the volume gets out of hand, we can always move to another list. Of course, we would use the docbook developers list for information that is appropriate for that list (repository issues, etc.). But, I think it would be good for the whole community to see what the students are doing and to have the opportunity to comment and help as appropriate. Therefore, I'd like to propose that we do that and ask the members of this list to comment or express any concerns you have about the idea. Best Regards, Dick Hamilton - XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net (970) 231-3624 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
[docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code Projects
As many of you know, the DocBook project is participating in the Google Summer of Code. This message is to introduce the five selected projects to the DocBook community. We received a lot of excellent proposals, and the ones we chose are all strong proposals that should significantly broaden the DocBook code base. Please welcome the students to the project. Here are the five projects: Project title Student Mentor - Web Help Output for Kasun Gajasinghe David Cramer DocBook Web Publishing using Sina Heshmati Stefan Seefeld DocBook5 Create Transformation of Docbook to epubAnn-Marie Horcher Dick Hamilton Reimplementation of the Jirka Kosek Norman Walsh DocBook XSL stylesheets in XSLT 2.0 Integration of BoostBook Muhammad RehanStefan Seefeld with DocBook Shaukat In addition to our official mentors, we have several co-mentors, some official and some un-official, including Hannes Magnusson for the Web Publishing proposal, and Keith Fahlgren, Liza Daly, Adam Witwer, and Sanders Kleinfeld for the epub proposal. Thanks to them and the mentors for participating. Best Regards, Dick Hamilton - XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net (970) 231-3624 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Google summer of code
On 03/18/2010 12:49 AM, Mike Maxwell wrote: Stefan Seefeld wrote: On 03/14/2010 03:26 PM, Mike Maxwell wrote: My sense (which I guess I've voiced a couple times) is that there is already an awfully lot (too much, IMO) about DB that is specific to programming languages. Our localization has over 200 lines like define name=db.classsynopsisnotAllowed//define My guess is that if you were to add programming elements in a separate namespace, you would want to move all the existing programming-specific elements into that namespace too. I don't think this is possible without breaking lots of existing documentation. If backward-compatibility wasn't an issue, I would very much like the suggestion. Given that the root element of a DocBook 5 file looks something like chapter xmlns=http://docbook.org/ns/docbook;... is this really a problem? Couldn't a DB document written for the new modular DocBook schema have something like chapter xmlns=http://docbook.org/ns/ModDocBook; or chapter xmlns=http://docbook.org/ns/docbook6;... ? So any documentation written in the Olde DB could continue to use the old schema, and not get broken. Sure, DocBook 6 could do that. But such an endeavor is entirely out of scope for the task I'm proposing here, or anything else related to this coming GSoC. You may want to lobby Norm for that. :-) Regards, Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Google summer of code
Stefan Seefeld wrote: On 03/14/2010 03:26 PM, Mike Maxwell wrote: My sense (which I guess I've voiced a couple times) is that there is already an awfully lot (too much, IMO) about DB that is specific to programming languages. Our localization has over 200 lines like define name=db.classsynopsisnotAllowed//define My guess is that if you were to add programming elements in a separate namespace, you would want to move all the existing programming-specific elements into that namespace too. I don't think this is possible without breaking lots of existing documentation. If backward-compatibility wasn't an issue, I would very much like the suggestion. Given that the root element of a DocBook 5 file looks something like chapter xmlns=http://docbook.org/ns/docbook;... is this really a problem? Couldn't a DB document written for the new modular DocBook schema have something like chapter xmlns=http://docbook.org/ns/ModDocBook; or chapter xmlns=http://docbook.org/ns/docbook6;... ? So any documentation written in the Olde DB could continue to use the old schema, and not get broken. At any rate, I would think it would be trivial to port a DB 5 document to such a modular docbook, by adding a namespace declaration for programming language-specific elements at the top, and prefixing any programming language-specific element names with the namespace abbreviation. But maybe I'm missing something... -- Mike Maxwell What good is a universe without somebody around to look at it? --Robert Dicke, Princeton physicist - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
[docbook-apps] Google summer of code
Just watching Robin Berjon demo a docbook instance presented using CSS only. Is that a reasonable project for the summer of code? Present docbook using CSS only? regards -- Dave Pawson XSLT XSL-FO FAQ. http://www.dpawson.co.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
RE: [docbook-apps] Google summer of code
Sounds interesting to me; feel free to add it to the ideas page. Dick - XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net (970) 231-3624 -Original Message- From: Dave Pawson [mailto:da...@dpawson.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 10:00 AM To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [docbook-apps] Google summer of code Just watching Robin Berjon demo a docbook instance presented using CSS only. Is that a reasonable project for the summer of code? Present docbook using CSS only? regards -- Dave Pawson XSLT XSL-FO FAQ. http://www.dpawson.co.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
RE: [docbook-apps] Google summer of code
Dick Hamilton rlhamil...@frii.com said: -Original Message- From: Dave Pawson [mailto:da...@dpawson.co.uk] Just watching Robin Berjon demo a docbook instance presented using CSS only. Is that a reasonable project for the summer of code? Present docbook using CSS only? Sounds interesting to me; feel free to add it to the ideas page. I also added a new idea [1]. Sina [1] http://docbook.xmlpress.net/tiki-index.php?page=DocBook5Website - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Google summer of code
On 14/03/10 17:11, Sina Khakbaz Heshmati wrote: Dick Hamiltonrlhamil...@frii.com said: -Original Message- From: Dave Pawson [mailto:da...@dpawson.co.uk] Just watching Robin Berjon demo a docbook instance presented using CSS only. Is that a reasonable project for the summer of code? Present docbook using CSS only? Sounds interesting to me; feel free to add it to the ideas page. I also added a new idea [1]. Sina [1] http://docbook.xmlpress.net/tiki-index.php?page=DocBook5Website I have a copy of that if you want it. We did that some time ago, just that it's never been picked up by the sourceforge maintainers. regards -- Dave Pawson XSLT XSL-FO FAQ. http://www.dpawson.co.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Google summer of code
Dave Pawson da...@dpawson.co.uk said: On 14/03/10 17:11, Sina Khakbaz Heshmati wrote: Dick Hamiltonrlhamil...@frii.com said: -Original Message- From: Dave Pawson [mailto:da...@dpawson.co.uk] Just watching Robin Berjon demo a docbook instance presented using CSS only. Is that a reasonable project for the summer of code? Present docbook using CSS only? Sounds interesting to me; feel free to add it to the ideas page. I also added a new idea [1]. I have a copy of that if you want it. We did that some time ago, just that it's never been picked up by the sourceforge maintainers. Absolutely. I've been meaning to work on this project since some time ago. I just found [2], which I believe is the work you alluded to. In any case, I'd be glad to help take the DocBook Website to a new stage of its development. Sina [1] http://docbook.xmlpress.net/tiki-index.php?page=DocBook5Website [2] http://www.dpawson.co.uk/docbook/website/v5/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Google summer of code
On 03/14/2010 01:54 PM, Dave Pawson wrote: On 14/03/10 17:11, Sina Khakbaz Heshmati wrote: Dick Hamiltonrlhamil...@frii.com said: -Original Message- From: Dave Pawson [mailto:da...@dpawson.co.uk] Just watching Robin Berjon demo a docbook instance presented using CSS only. Is that a reasonable project for the summer of code? Present docbook using CSS only? Sounds interesting to me; feel free to add it to the ideas page. I also added a new idea [1]. Sina [1] http://docbook.xmlpress.net/tiki-index.php?page=DocBook5Website I have a copy of that if you want it. We did that some time ago, just that it's never been picked up by the sourceforge maintainers. Now that you are mentioning it, let me throw in some comments: I have been watching with interest the transition from DB 4 to DB 5, and in particular, the discussions about extensibility of a core vocabulary. A long time ago we discussed DocBook's limited support for programming language representations, and what to do about it. Norm argued that DB was not a modeling language, and thus, that it wasn't a good idea to add more elements akin to ooclass, methodsynopsis, etc. to the core. Well, I hope that as part of my project proposal (http://docbook.xmlpress.net/tiki-index.php?page=api-markup), we can in fact add more elements, but keep them in a separate namespace, so the extension is better defined as such. I would hope that other extensions (slides, website, etc.) could use a similar approach, i.e. all become domain-specific extensions (or profiles). This has a couple of important advantages, not the least that users are free to mix these vocabularies for their own purpose. Thoughts ? Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Google summer of code
Stefan Seefeld wrote: I have been watching with interest the transition from DB 4 to DB 5, and in particular, the discussions about extensibility of a core vocabulary. A long time ago we discussed DocBook's limited support for programming language representations, and what to do about it. Norm argued that DB was not a modeling language, and thus, that it wasn't a good idea to add more elements akin to ooclass, methodsynopsis, etc. to the core. Well, I hope that as part of my project proposal (http://docbook.xmlpress.net/tiki-index.php?page=api-markup), we can in fact add more elements, but keep them in a separate namespace, so the extension is better defined as such. I would hope that other extensions (slides, website, etc.) could use a similar approach, i.e. all become domain-specific extensions (or profiles). This has a couple of important advantages, not the least that users are free to mix these vocabularies for their own purpose. I come to this discussion as a DocBook user, but don't have any background on why DB got to where it is today. Our use case is probably different from anyone else's: we're doing grammars of natural languages (Bengali, Urdu, Pashto...), so we have some grammar-specific extensions in their own name space. We also use the literate programming extension that Norm wrote some years ago, so that we can automatically turn our grammars into parsers. That said-- My sense (which I guess I've voiced a couple times) is that there is already an awfully lot (too much, IMO) about DB that is specific to programming languages. Our localization has over 200 lines like define name=db.classsynopsisnotAllowed//define My guess is that if you were to add programming elements in a separate namespace, you would want to move all the existing programming-specific elements into that namespace too. I think the result would be a very much more modular DocBook, rather like a modern programming language (Python, say) in which the generic stuff is in the main language, and constructs that deal with particular domains are in library modules. In case it's not clear, I'm entirely for such modularization. -- Mike Maxwell What good is a universe without somebody around to look at it? --Robert Dicke, Princeton physicist - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Google summer of code
On 03/14/2010 03:26 PM, Mike Maxwell wrote: My sense (which I guess I've voiced a couple times) is that there is already an awfully lot (too much, IMO) about DB that is specific to programming languages. Our localization has over 200 lines like define name=db.classsynopsisnotAllowed//define My guess is that if you were to add programming elements in a separate namespace, you would want to move all the existing programming-specific elements into that namespace too. I don't think this is possible without breaking lots of existing documentation. If backward-compatibility wasn't an issue, I would very much like the suggestion. Regards, Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
[docbook-apps] Google Summer of Code Application Draft
I just posted a very rough draft of the application for the Google Summer of Code. You can find a link at http://docbook.xmlpress.net Feel free to comment either by editing the page or sending me email. I will also be working on the page over the next few days. IMPORTANT NOTE: There needs to be a backup administrator who has a google account, and I need to include information about that administrator in the application. If you are able to act as the backup administrator, please let me know right way (rlhamil...@frii.com). If we can't find a backup, we can't participate. Best Regards, Dick Hamilton - XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net (970) 231-3624 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
