[docbook-apps] RE: [docbook] RE: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
I added another proposal for the candidate to go through the open DocBook xsl feature requests and knock some out: http://docbook.xmlpress.net/tiki-index.php?page=ImplementSomeFeatureRequ ests Not sure if that would sound attractive to a candidate or not, but it would be nice if that list were shorter than 160 open requests :-) This one could really use co-mentor(s) because the range of the requests is so broad and some of the requests would involve touching complex code deep in the xsls. David -Original Message- From: Dick Hamilton [mailto:rlhamil...@frii.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:49 PM To: 'docbook'; 'DocBook Apps Mailing List' Subject: [docbook] RE: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? David, I think co-mentoring makes great sense. I see that you signed up on the Wiki and did exactly what I was going to suggest, which was to leave a line with Your name here for another volunteer. Generally, let's go with co-mentors, though if in some situation a mentor with a backup makes better sense, just mark it up that way. Best, Dick - XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net (970) 231-3624 -Original Message- From: David Cramer [mailto:dcra...@motive.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:43 PM To: Dick Hamilton; docbook; DocBook Apps Mailing List Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? Hi Dick, Thanks from me as well for keeping this idea going. Perhaps we should think in terms of co-mentoring (rather than mentor and backup). I would be willing to co-mentor the Webhelp proposal. Thanks, David -Original Message- From: Dick Hamilton [mailto:rlhamil...@frii.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:21 PM To: 'docbook'; 'DocBook Apps Mailing List' Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? Stefan and the DocBook community, Stefan, thanks for bringing the deadline to everyone's attention. I would be glad to act as administrator for the DocBook project. To that end, there are a few things that need to happen that I cannot do on my own: 1) We need some mentors; so far, Stefan is the only person who has signed on as a mentor. Seems to me that we need at least two or three projects with mentors to make a credible application. 2) We need backup mentor for each project. It's not essential, but it would help the application and would also make sure that students have more than one person to work with in case someone is out of town, etc. I suggest the following schedule: 1) Until March 8 (next Monday) I'll leave the wiki open (http://docbook.xmlpress.net) for anyone to edit (for those just looking into this, you need to sign up, but it's automatic and easy). Please look at the projects, add any you are willing to be mentor for, and sign up as mentor or backup mentor for any project. Also, if you sign up as a mentor, please fill out the description if it needs some extra information, and send me your contact information. 2) On March 8, I'll remove any projects that don't have mentors, and if we have at least two projects with mentors, I'll begin preparing the application. 3) During the week I'll work with the mentors on the application and make it available for review on the wiki. 4) By Friday the 12th, I'll submit the application. This is the first time I've been involved with the Google Summer of Code, so I'm open to input from anyone concerning the process and anything else to do with this project. Best Regards, Dick Hamilton - XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net (970) 231-3624 -Original Message- From: Stefan Seefeld [mailto:seef...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:27 AM To: docbook; DocBook Apps Mailing List; Norman Walsh Subject: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? This is just a little reminder that the deadline for mentoring organization applications is drawing near (march 8th - 12th: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/g soc2010/timeline) We have had some discussion on possible tasks, and even a temporary wiki set up for this purpose (http://docbook.xmlpress.net). Even though, I'm afraid it isn't quite clear whether to move forward or not, and in particular, who is in charge of this. I'd be happy to help, as I have participated as mentor a couple of times in the past), but I'm not able to lead the effort, mostly because I'm not a docbook (core) developer myself. Yet I think this presents
RE: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
Stefan and the DocBook community, Stefan, thanks for bringing the deadline to everyone's attention. I would be glad to act as administrator for the DocBook project. To that end, there are a few things that need to happen that I cannot do on my own: 1) We need some mentors; so far, Stefan is the only person who has signed on as a mentor. Seems to me that we need at least two or three projects with mentors to make a credible application. 2) We need backup mentor for each project. It's not essential, but it would help the application and would also make sure that students have more than one person to work with in case someone is out of town, etc. I suggest the following schedule: 1) Until March 8 (next Monday) I'll leave the wiki open (http://docbook.xmlpress.net) for anyone to edit (for those just looking into this, you need to sign up, but it's automatic and easy). Please look at the projects, add any you are willing to be mentor for, and sign up as mentor or backup mentor for any project. Also, if you sign up as a mentor, please fill out the description if it needs some extra information, and send me your contact information. 2) On March 8, I'll remove any projects that don't have mentors, and if we have at least two projects with mentors, I'll begin preparing the application. 3) During the week I'll work with the mentors on the application and make it available for review on the wiki. 4) By Friday the 12th, I'll submit the application. This is the first time I've been involved with the Google Summer of Code, so I'm open to input from anyone concerning the process and anything else to do with this project. Best Regards, Dick Hamilton - XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net (970) 231-3624 -Original Message- From: Stefan Seefeld [mailto:seef...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:27 AM To: docbook; DocBook Apps Mailing List; Norman Walsh Subject: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? This is just a little reminder that the deadline for mentoring organization applications is drawing near (march 8th - 12th: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/g soc2010/timeline) We have had some discussion on possible tasks, and even a temporary wiki set up for this purpose (http://docbook.xmlpress.net). Even though, I'm afraid it isn't quite clear whether to move forward or not, and in particular, who is in charge of this. I'd be happy to help, as I have participated as mentor a couple of times in the past), but I'm not able to lead the effort, mostly because I'm not a docbook (core) developer myself. Yet I think this presents a great opportunity to a) spread the word about DB, b) help work on issues and features that core developers haven't enough time to address themselves. Norm, Dave, Bob, et al.: Do you think this is worthwhile ? Thanks, Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
Dick, thanks a lot for your initiative, again ! On 03/01/2010 02:21 PM, Dick Hamilton wrote: Stefan and the DocBook community, Stefan, thanks for bringing the deadline to everyone's attention. I would be glad to act as administrator for the DocBook project. To that end, there are a few things that need to happen that I cannot do on my own: 1) We need some mentors; so far, Stefan is the only person who has signed on as a mentor. Seems to me that we need at least two or three projects with mentors to make a credible application. I'm not quite convinced of this. In this stage the goal is for the DocBook project to be accepted as mentoring organization. I don't think that DB requires much work to be considered by Google as credible, given its long and successful history. It is once that potential applicants are looking for things to work on that we need to show mentor availability. Similarly with tasks: they are merely suggestions for students who want to work on DB, but don't have made up their mind on what specifically to work on. It may also happen that a student shows up with a fully thought-out project, only looking for a mentor. 2) We need backup mentor for each project. It's not essential, but it would help the application and would also make sure that students have more than one person to work with in case someone is out of town, etc. This is the next step: By April 21st, student applications need to be handed in, matched with mentors. Google will assign slots to mentoring organizations based on that application list. (See http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline) So, all that needs to happen for the March 12th deadline is that we apply to be accepted as an organization, quite independently of how many slots we will end up getting. Thanks, Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
RE: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
Hi Dick, Thanks from me as well for keeping this idea going. Perhaps we should think in terms of co-mentoring (rather than mentor and backup). I would be willing to co-mentor the Webhelp proposal. Thanks, David -Original Message- From: Dick Hamilton [mailto:rlhamil...@frii.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:21 PM To: 'docbook'; 'DocBook Apps Mailing List' Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? Stefan and the DocBook community, Stefan, thanks for bringing the deadline to everyone's attention. I would be glad to act as administrator for the DocBook project. To that end, there are a few things that need to happen that I cannot do on my own: 1) We need some mentors; so far, Stefan is the only person who has signed on as a mentor. Seems to me that we need at least two or three projects with mentors to make a credible application. 2) We need backup mentor for each project. It's not essential, but it would help the application and would also make sure that students have more than one person to work with in case someone is out of town, etc. I suggest the following schedule: 1) Until March 8 (next Monday) I'll leave the wiki open (http://docbook.xmlpress.net) for anyone to edit (for those just looking into this, you need to sign up, but it's automatic and easy). Please look at the projects, add any you are willing to be mentor for, and sign up as mentor or backup mentor for any project. Also, if you sign up as a mentor, please fill out the description if it needs some extra information, and send me your contact information. 2) On March 8, I'll remove any projects that don't have mentors, and if we have at least two projects with mentors, I'll begin preparing the application. 3) During the week I'll work with the mentors on the application and make it available for review on the wiki. 4) By Friday the 12th, I'll submit the application. This is the first time I've been involved with the Google Summer of Code, so I'm open to input from anyone concerning the process and anything else to do with this project. Best Regards, Dick Hamilton - XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net (970) 231-3624 -Original Message- From: Stefan Seefeld [mailto:seef...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:27 AM To: docbook; DocBook Apps Mailing List; Norman Walsh Subject: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? This is just a little reminder that the deadline for mentoring organization applications is drawing near (march 8th - 12th: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/g soc2010/timeline) We have had some discussion on possible tasks, and even a temporary wiki set up for this purpose (http://docbook.xmlpress.net). Even though, I'm afraid it isn't quite clear whether to move forward or not, and in particular, who is in charge of this. I'd be happy to help, as I have participated as mentor a couple of times in the past), but I'm not able to lead the effort, mostly because I'm not a docbook (core) developer myself. Yet I think this presents a great opportunity to a) spread the word about DB, b) help work on issues and features that core developers haven't enough time to address themselves. Norm, Dave, Bob, et al.: Do you think this is worthwhile ? Thanks, Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
RE: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
David, I think co-mentoring makes great sense. I see that you signed up on the Wiki and did exactly what I was going to suggest, which was to leave a line with Your name here for another volunteer. Generally, let's go with co-mentors, though if in some situation a mentor with a backup makes better sense, just mark it up that way. Best, Dick - XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net (970) 231-3624 -Original Message- From: David Cramer [mailto:dcra...@motive.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:43 PM To: Dick Hamilton; docbook; DocBook Apps Mailing List Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? Hi Dick, Thanks from me as well for keeping this idea going. Perhaps we should think in terms of co-mentoring (rather than mentor and backup). I would be willing to co-mentor the Webhelp proposal. Thanks, David -Original Message- From: Dick Hamilton [mailto:rlhamil...@frii.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:21 PM To: 'docbook'; 'DocBook Apps Mailing List' Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? Stefan and the DocBook community, Stefan, thanks for bringing the deadline to everyone's attention. I would be glad to act as administrator for the DocBook project. To that end, there are a few things that need to happen that I cannot do on my own: 1) We need some mentors; so far, Stefan is the only person who has signed on as a mentor. Seems to me that we need at least two or three projects with mentors to make a credible application. 2) We need backup mentor for each project. It's not essential, but it would help the application and would also make sure that students have more than one person to work with in case someone is out of town, etc. I suggest the following schedule: 1) Until March 8 (next Monday) I'll leave the wiki open (http://docbook.xmlpress.net) for anyone to edit (for those just looking into this, you need to sign up, but it's automatic and easy). Please look at the projects, add any you are willing to be mentor for, and sign up as mentor or backup mentor for any project. Also, if you sign up as a mentor, please fill out the description if it needs some extra information, and send me your contact information. 2) On March 8, I'll remove any projects that don't have mentors, and if we have at least two projects with mentors, I'll begin preparing the application. 3) During the week I'll work with the mentors on the application and make it available for review on the wiki. 4) By Friday the 12th, I'll submit the application. This is the first time I've been involved with the Google Summer of Code, so I'm open to input from anyone concerning the process and anything else to do with this project. Best Regards, Dick Hamilton - XML Press XML for Technical Communicators http://xmlpress.net (970) 231-3624 -Original Message- From: Stefan Seefeld [mailto:seef...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:27 AM To: docbook; DocBook Apps Mailing List; Norman Walsh Subject: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? This is just a little reminder that the deadline for mentoring organization applications is drawing near (march 8th - 12th: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/g soc2010/timeline) We have had some discussion on possible tasks, and even a temporary wiki set up for this purpose (http://docbook.xmlpress.net). Even though, I'm afraid it isn't quite clear whether to move forward or not, and in particular, who is in charge of this. I'd be happy to help, as I have participated as mentor a couple of times in the past), but I'm not able to lead the effort, mostly because I'm not a docbook (core) developer myself. Yet I think this presents a great opportunity to a) spread the word about DB, b) help work on issues and features that core developers haven't enough time to address themselves. Norm, Dave, Bob, et al.: Do you think this is worthwhile ? Thanks, Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail
[docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
This is just a little reminder that the deadline for mentoring organization applications is drawing near (march 8th - 12th: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline) We have had some discussion on possible tasks, and even a temporary wiki set up for this purpose (http://docbook.xmlpress.net). Even though, I'm afraid it isn't quite clear whether to move forward or not, and in particular, who is in charge of this. I'd be happy to help, as I have participated as mentor a couple of times in the past), but I'm not able to lead the effort, mostly because I'm not a docbook (core) developer myself. Yet I think this presents a great opportunity to a) spread the word about DB, b) help work on issues and features that core developers haven't enough time to address themselves. Norm, Dave, Bob, et al.: Do you think this is worthwhile ? Thanks, Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
Skopik Pavel wrote: the application you mention already exists - see http://sourceforge.net/projects/db-xsl-cfg/. But it does not cover all aspects described bellow. There is also: http://sourceforge.net/projects/docbook/files/fo-editor/ -- -- Jirka Kosek e-mail: ji...@kosek.cz http://www.kosek.cz -- Profesionální školení a poradenství v oblasti technologií XML. Podrobný přehled školení http://xmlguru.cz/skoleni/ -- Nejbližší termíny školení *** XML pro vývojáře 16.-18.2. ** XML schémata 30.3.-1.4. *** *** XSLT 19.-22.4. ** XSL-FO 18.-19.5. ** XSLT 2.0 9.6. *** *** Office Open XML 10.6. *** -- http://docbook.czStránky o dokumentačním formátu DocBook http://xmlguru.czBlog mostly about XML for English readers -- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
Hello, dbdtidbit provides support for many of the docbook xsl parameters and also the attribute sets. Perhaps you want to give it a try. You can find 2 screenshoots at http://www.dbdoclet.org/Screenshots.html Regards Michael I have always dreamed of a graphical application that would allow someone without a CS degree to customize the XSL-FO stylesheets. A first version would concentrate on customizing specific parts of the stylesheet, like: - standard customization parameters, clearly organized, with choice or value validation - personalization of attribute sets, proposing a reduced set of parameters available in XSL-FO - customization of specific zones like title pages, headers, footers All this should be very flexible: aka it must be easy for a programmer to propose new parameters (for example the logo filename to appear on the title page) to be added to the interface. So I thought maybe the extra information needed to build the interface could be coded in the XSL itself... To be discussed. Anyone interested in that? Camille. master pages, David Cramer wrote: I believe the DocBook wiki is broken at the moment, but yes, having a list somewhere to start from would be useful. My vote would be for a WebHelp output with toc, search, and index tabs in the nav pane. It would be like http://www.thingbag.net/docbook/docbook-webhelp/index.html but better: the toc pane would synchronize with the content (or perhaps it wouldn't be use frames at all, but be more like website's nav mechansim), the search would ideally be more i18nized, etc., and it would be part of the DocBook XSL distribution. David -Original Message- From: Stefan Seefeld [mailto:seef...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:48 PM To: docb...@lists.oasis-open.org; DocBook Apps Mailing List Subject: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? Mid-december I sent a mail to this list, suggesting that DocBook applies to participate in Google's Summer of Code program. A couple of people followed up with interest and ideas, so I'd like to send out a little note with some details. Google just sent out this: http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/b rowse_thread/thread/d839c0b02ac15b3f?pli=1 The most important bit is this: We will begin accepting application from would-be mentoring organizations beginning March 8th at approximately 19:00 UTC, with applications closing on March 12th at 23:00 UTC. I would like to suggest that, as a start, we collect project ideas on the wiki. (I was going to do that, then realized that the pages I looked at where marked immutable. May be I'm just lacking enough karma to edit them. Can someone help ? A new GSoCIdeas page would be a good start !) Thanks, Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
RE: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
Just throwing one idea out there for this project: Upgrade the refdb-lite code to take it from DocBook 4.6 using DTDs to DocBook 5 using RelaxNG. The code started as part of RefDB proper and lightened by Doug du Boulay. The sourceforge site is here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/refdb-lite/ Pure XSLT 1 based formatting of bibliographies and citations in DocBook XMLdocuments. Bibliographic data can be accessed either from a real RefDB database, or from an XML data file. The refdb-lite XSLT code base is in good shape and it provides a simple method of using straight XSLT1.0 to create bibliographies and can create different citation methods for html (author-year for one example). Additionally, it can use a raw DocBook bibliography and does not require a RefDB database setup (although it can use one if needed). It's a solid place to start with some obvious modifications that are needed and the scope can be kept to fit in with the Summer of Code time frame. I'm biased since I have a docbook system that requires author-year citations. However, it does seem to me that DocBook would benefit from a simple and straightforward way to create bibliographies that could be folded back into the DocBook stylesheets; a method that requires no extra setup, just using DocBook bibliography collection and XSLT (1.0). Any comments? Would such a project benefit enough users? thanks, --Tim Arnold -Original Message- From: Stefan Seefeld [mailto:seef...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:48 PM To: docb...@lists.oasis-open.org; DocBook Apps Mailing List Subject: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? Mid-december I sent a mail to this list, suggesting that DocBook applies to participate in Google's Summer of Code program. A couple of people followed up with interest and ideas, so I'd like to send out a little note with some details. Google just sent out this: http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code- discuss/browse_thread/thread/d839c0b02ac15b3f?pli=1 The most important bit is this: We will begin accepting application from would-be mentoring organizations beginning March 8th at approximately 19:00 UTC, with applications closing on March 12th at 23:00 UTC. I would like to suggest that, as a start, we collect project ideas on the wiki. (I was going to do that, then realized that the pages I looked at where marked immutable. May be I'm just lacking enough karma to edit them. Can someone help ? A new GSoCIdeas page would be a good start !) Thanks, Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
Hello, I have always dreamed of a graphical application that would allow someone without a CS degree to customize the XSL-FO stylesheets. A first version would concentrate on customizing specific parts of the stylesheet, like: - standard customization parameters, clearly organized, with choice or value validation - personalization of attribute sets, proposing a reduced set of parameters available in XSL-FO - customization of specific zones like title pages, headers, footers All this should be very flexible: aka it must be easy for a programmer to propose new parameters (for example the logo filename to appear on the title page) to be added to the interface. So I thought maybe the extra information needed to build the interface could be coded in the XSL itself... To be discussed. Anyone interested in that? Camille. master pages, David Cramer wrote: I believe the DocBook wiki is broken at the moment, but yes, having a list somewhere to start from would be useful. My vote would be for a WebHelp output with toc, search, and index tabs in the nav pane. It would be like http://www.thingbag.net/docbook/docbook-webhelp/index.html but better: the toc pane would synchronize with the content (or perhaps it wouldn't be use frames at all, but be more like website's nav mechansim), the search would ideally be more i18nized, etc., and it would be part of the DocBook XSL distribution. David -Original Message- From: Stefan Seefeld [mailto:seef...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:48 PM To: docb...@lists.oasis-open.org; DocBook Apps Mailing List Subject: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? Mid-december I sent a mail to this list, suggesting that DocBook applies to participate in Google's Summer of Code program. A couple of people followed up with interest and ideas, so I'd like to send out a little note with some details. Google just sent out this: http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/b rowse_thread/thread/d839c0b02ac15b3f?pli=1 The most important bit is this: We will begin accepting application from would-be mentoring organizations beginning March 8th at approximately 19:00 UTC, with applications closing on March 12th at 23:00 UTC. I would like to suggest that, as a start, we collect project ideas on the wiki. (I was going to do that, then realized that the pages I looked at where marked immutable. May be I'm just lacking enough karma to edit them. Can someone help ? A new GSoCIdeas page would be a good start !) Thanks, Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org attachment: camille.vcf- To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Camille Bégnis cami...@neodoc.biz wrote: I have always dreamed of a graphical application that would allow someone without a CS degree to customize the XSL-FO stylesheets. I'm sure this was just a figure of speech, but of the four people that developed (and maintain) O'Reilly's *gigantic*, successful customization of the XSL-FO stylesheets, only one has a CS degree. I have a history degree, for example. Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
RE: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
Hello, the application you mention already exists - see http://sourceforge.net/projects/db-xsl-cfg/. But it does not cover all aspects described bellow. Pavel -Původní zpráva- Od: Camille Bégnis [mailto:cami...@neodoc.biz] Odesláno: st 27.1.2010 18:05 Komu: apps docbook Předmět: Re: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? Hello, I have always dreamed of a graphical application that would allow someone without a CS degree to customize the XSL-FO stylesheets. A first version would concentrate on customizing specific parts of the stylesheet, like: - standard customization parameters, clearly organized, with choice or value validation - personalization of attribute sets, proposing a reduced set of parameters available in XSL-FO - customization of specific zones like title pages, headers, footers All this should be very flexible: aka it must be easy for a programmer to propose new parameters (for example the logo filename to appear on the title page) to be added to the interface. So I thought maybe the extra information needed to build the interface could be coded in the XSL itself... To be discussed. Anyone interested in that? Camille. master pages, David Cramer wrote: I believe the DocBook wiki is broken at the moment, but yes, having a list somewhere to start from would be useful. My vote would be for a WebHelp output with toc, search, and index tabs in the nav pane. It would be like http://www.thingbag.net/docbook/docbook-webhelp/index.html but better: the toc pane would synchronize with the content (or perhaps it wouldn't be use frames at all, but be more like website's nav mechansim), the search would ideally be more i18nized, etc., and it would be part of the DocBook XSL distribution. David -Original Message- From: Stefan Seefeld [mailto:seef...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:48 PM To: docb...@lists.oasis-open.org; DocBook Apps Mailing List Subject: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? Mid-december I sent a mail to this list, suggesting that DocBook applies to participate in Google's Summer of Code program. A couple of people followed up with interest and ideas, so I'd like to send out a little note with some details. Google just sent out this: http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/b rowse_thread/thread/d839c0b02ac15b3f?pli=1 The most important bit is this: We will begin accepting application from would-be mentoring organizations beginning March 8th at approximately 19:00 UTC, with applications closing on March 12th at 23:00 UTC. I would like to suggest that, as a start, we collect project ideas on the wiki. (I was going to do that, then realized that the pages I looked at where marked immutable. May be I'm just lacking enough karma to edit them. Can someone help ? A new GSoCIdeas page would be a good start !) Thanks, Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
[docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
Mid-december I sent a mail to this list, suggesting that DocBook applies to participate in Google's Summer of Code program. A couple of people followed up with interest and ideas, so I'd like to send out a little note with some details. Google just sent out this: http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/d839c0b02ac15b3f?pli=1 The most important bit is this: We will begin accepting application from would-be mentoring organizations beginning March 8th at approximately 19:00 UTC, with applications closing on March 12th at 23:00 UTC. I would like to suggest that, as a start, we collect project ideas on the wiki. (I was going to do that, then realized that the pages I looked at where marked immutable. May be I'm just lacking enough karma to edit them. Can someone help ? A new GSoCIdeas page would be a good start !) Thanks, Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
Regarding the DocBook Wiki, it is currently broken. No one seems to have write access any more, including the main administrator Norm Walsh. He is working on fixing it, or perhaps recreating it if that does not work. Bob Stayton Sagehill Enterprises b...@sagehill.net - Original Message - From: Stefan Seefeld seef...@sympatico.ca To: docb...@lists.oasis-open.org; DocBook Apps Mailing List docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:47 PM Subject: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ? Mid-december I sent a mail to this list, suggesting that DocBook applies to participate in Google's Summer of Code program. A couple of people followed up with interest and ideas, so I'd like to send out a little note with some details. Google just sent out this: http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/d839c0b02ac15b3f?pli=1 The most important bit is this: We will begin accepting application from would-be mentoring organizations beginning March 8th at approximately 19:00 UTC, with applications closing on March 12th at 23:00 UTC. I would like to suggest that, as a start, we collect project ideas on the wiki. (I was going to do that, then realized that the pages I looked at where marked immutable. May be I'm just lacking enough karma to edit them. Can someone help ? A new GSoCIdeas page would be a good start !) Thanks, Stefan -- ...ich hab' noch einen Koffer in Berlin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
[docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] DocBook and Google Summer of Code ?
On Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 15:28:56 Stefan Seefeld wrote: All, Google is sponsoring each year many organizations to allow students to contribute to free software projects over the summer. This is known as the Google Summer of Code. Such organizations would apply to become a mentoring organization, sometime in early March. Being a mentoring organization means to provide project ideas, as well as mentors who would help the student(s) over the summer keep in touch with the community, as well as make progress on the project. I have been a mentor for different projects and mentoring organizations in the past (notably, the Python Software Foundation and Boost.org), and I know firsthand what a great way to help advance a project this is, as well as allow students to get involved with Free Software. I have been wondering whether there was any interest in the DocBook community to apply to become a GSoC mentoring organization, too. I can see many projects that are doable in such a context (I have a couple of specific ideas that I would very much like to see realized, and I think GSoC would be an ideal framework for this). Before diving into such details, I'd just like to ask for feedback about the general idea. What do you think ? Sounds good to me, but until now I've only been a DocBook/XML end-user - not an active developer (though I've reported and triaged a few bugs). I've also been active to some extent in the Perl GSoC. Regards, Shlomi Fish (For details about the program, see http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs) Thanks, Stefan -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ My Aphorisms - http://www.shlomifish.org/humour.html Bzr is slower than Subversion in combination with Sourceforge. ( By: http://dazjorz.com/ ) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
