Re: [docbook-apps] Re: Indexing.

2012-05-06 Thread davep

On 05/05/12 17:15, Norman Walsh wrote:

The sources for The Definitive Guide have quite a bit of index markup from
the O'Reilly copyedit. That might be a good place to look for examples.




Indexing is an art.


Yes. Exactly how it's described in this book I'm reading.
Tks for the reference, I'll take a look at  tdg Norm



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Re: [docbook-apps] Re: Indexing.

2012-05-06 Thread davep

On 05/05/12 17:17, Norman Walsh wrote:

davepda...@dpawson.co.uk  writes:

I did made a note to for myself some time back that anindexterm   inside a
footnote caused an error. I was using oXygenXML v12 at the time. Not sure
if this is still the case.


Footnotes aren't normally indexed is one piece of advice. So perhaps
docbook is right.


I have a vague recollection that we may have loosened that restriction.

 Be seeing you,
   norm



To be precise the 'guideline' is Don't, unless they contain substantive
content relevant to the text.
I.e. bit gray?





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Re: [docbook-apps] Re: Indexing.

2012-05-06 Thread David Cramer
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On 05/05/2012 11:15 AM, Norman Walsh wrote:
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 Indexing is an art.

'Kurt Vonnegut's novel Cat's Cradle includes a character who is a
professional indexer and believes that indexing [is] a thing that
only the most amateurish author [undertakes] to do for his own book.
She claims to be able to read an author's character through the index
he created for his own history text, and warns the narrator, an
author, Never index your own book.' from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_(publishing)#References_in_popular_culture
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[docbook-apps] Re: Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread Norman Walsh
davep da...@dpawson.co.uk writes:
 Are you asking more about the indexing task itself or about the technical
 aspect?

 The docbook aspects please Thomas

The sources for The Definitive Guide have quite a bit of index markup from
the O'Reilly copyedit. That might be a good place to look for examples.

 Speaking about the indexing task itself, IHMO this is something that some
 books don't take it seriously enough. An index is a service to make the book
 more accessible to readers. I've seen lots of bad index which came just as an
 alibi, but with no value.
 So it isn't a surprise that a good index takes time and energy. When I've
 created the index of my book, it took lots of iterations and I guess it still
 isn't perfect. :)

Indexing is an art.

Be seeing you,
  norm

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[docbook-apps] Re: Indexing.

2012-05-05 Thread Norman Walsh
davep da...@dpawson.co.uk writes:
 I did made a note to for myself some time back that anindexterm  inside a
 footnote caused an error. I was using oXygenXML v12 at the time. Not sure
 if this is still the case.

 Footnotes aren't normally indexed is one piece of advice. So perhaps
 docbook is right.

I have a vague recollection that we may have loosened that restriction.

Be seeing you,
  norm

-- 
Norman Walsh n...@nwalsh.com  | She was mostly immensely relieved
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | to think that virtually everything
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | that anybody had ever told her was
   | wrong. (Mrs. E. Kapelsen)--Douglas
   | Adams


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