Re: [docbook-apps] Image maps in PDF output
Hi Bob, Thank you. I guess I'll have to do something else then if hotspots on graphics are not supported in PDFs. I did some more searching and apparently PDFs do support this (http://www.authorst.com/hot_graphics_in_pdf_file.php) so I guess it is a limitation of the DocBook XSL to PDF conversion (which I guess is what you're saying below although I don't quite understand the concept of extensions in this context.) Thank you for your time, -Tyson On 2012/05/06 1:00 AM, Bob Stayton wrote: Hi Tyson, That message you referred to did not cover imagemaps. It was referring to using callout icons in a programlisting. In that case, an extension function is needed to preprocess the text in the programlisting to place the callout images in with the text, and that mix is then processed by DocBook XSL into PDF output. There is no equivalent extension for mixing callouts or other hot spots with images, as far as I know. I hope someone proves me wrong. Bob Stayton Sagehill Enterprises b...@sagehill.net - Original Message - From: Tyson Marchuk tmarc...@cdlsystems.com To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: [docbook-apps] Image maps in PDF output Hello, I'm new to Docbook and I'm trying to create an image map (click-able image where clicking different sections of the image results in going to different locations in the document) in a PDF document. I've run across this reference (http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/Imagemaps.html) which seems to suggest this can't be done in PDFs with Docbook but it was published in 2007 and I saw a post on this mailing list from 2012 (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/201202/msg00010.html) which seems to suggest it should work in PDFs. I've used the example code from the first link with slight modifications (copied below) on one of my graphics and changed the stylesheet to only use numbers and while the output does have the numbers and text below the graphic there does not appear to be any linking going on in the document between the graphic and callouts. Is this a limitation of PDFs or Docbook or am I doing something wrong? Thank you for your time and help, Tyson Marchuk mediaobjectco imageobjectco areaspec id=map1 units=calspair area linkends=callout1 coords=0,0 5000,1 id=area1/ area linkends=callout2 coords=5000,0 1,1 id=area2/ /areaspec imageobject imagedata fileref=images/myImage.png / /imageobject calloutlist callout arearefs=area1 id=callout1 paraMy only callout1/para /callout callout arearefs=area2 id=callout2 paraMy only callout2/para /callout /calloutlist /imageobjectco /mediaobjectco - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
RE: [docbook-apps] Image maps in PDF output
Hi Tyson, In general docbook documents are transformed to an intermediate representation before they are processed to pdf. The intermediate representation is FO (formatting objects). Have you tried to write down a couple of formatting objects (FO) that FOP is capable of processing them to pdf as you want? If you were able to do that, it shouldn't be much work to put that stuff into the right place within a docbook document and adapt the respective stylesheets to process that data so that it will work in the future. Cheers, Dominik -Original Message- From: Tyson Marchuk [mailto:tmarc...@cdlsystems.com] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:29 PM To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Image maps in PDF output Hi Bob, Thank you. I guess I'll have to do something else then if hotspots on graphics are not supported in PDFs. I did some more searching and apparently PDFs do support this (http://www.authorst.com/hot_graphics_in_pdf_file.php) so I guess it is a limitation of the DocBook XSL to PDF conversion (which I guess is what you're saying below although I don't quite understand the concept of extensions in this context.) Thank you for your time, -Tyson On 2012/05/06 1:00 AM, Bob Stayton wrote: Hi Tyson, That message you referred to did not cover imagemaps. It was referring to using callout icons in a programlisting. In that case, an extension function is needed to preprocess the text in the programlisting to place the callout images in with the text, and that mix is then processed by DocBook XSL into PDF output. There is no equivalent extension for mixing callouts or other hot spots with images, as far as I know. I hope someone proves me wrong. Bob Stayton Sagehill Enterprises b...@sagehill.net - Original Message - From: Tyson Marchuk tmarc...@cdlsystems.com To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: [docbook-apps] Image maps in PDF output Hello, I'm new to Docbook and I'm trying to create an image map (click-able image where clicking different sections of the image results in going to different locations in the document) in a PDF document. I've run across this reference (http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/Imagemaps.html) which seems to suggest this can't be done in PDFs with Docbook but it was published in 2007 and I saw a post on this mailing list from 2012 (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/201202/msg00010.html) which seems to suggest it should work in PDFs. I've used the example code from the first link with slight modifications (copied below) on one of my graphics and changed the stylesheet to only use numbers and while the output does have the numbers and text below the graphic there does not appear to be any linking going on in the document between the graphic and callouts. Is this a limitation of PDFs or Docbook or am I doing something wrong? Thank you for your time and help, Tyson Marchuk mediaobjectco imageobjectco areaspec id=map1 units=calspair area linkends=callout1 coords=0,0 5000,1 id=area1/ area linkends=callout2 coords=5000,0 1,1 id=area2/ /areaspec imageobject imagedata fileref=images/myImage.png / /imageobject calloutlist callout arearefs=area1 id=callout1 paraMy only callout1/para /callout callout arearefs=area2 id=callout2 paraMy only callout2/para /callout /calloutlist /imageobjectco /mediaobjectco - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Image maps in PDF output
FYI, dblatex supports callouts on images (see http://dblatex.sourceforge.net/example/dblatex/example.pdf, section 5.1). The only constraint to have relevant coordinates. Regards, BG On Mon, 07 May 2012 16:29:16 +0200, Tyson Marchuk tmarc...@cdlsystems.com wrote: Hi Bob, Thank you. I guess I'll have to do something else then if hotspots on graphics are not supported in PDFs. I did some more searching and apparently PDFs do support this (http://www.authorst.com/hot_graphics_in_pdf_file.php) so I guess it is a limitation of the DocBook XSL to PDF conversion (which I guess is what you're saying below although I don't quite understand the concept of extensions in this context.) Thank you for your time, -Tyson On 2012/05/06 1:00 AM, Bob Stayton wrote: Hi Tyson, That message you referred to did not cover imagemaps. It was referring to using callout icons in a programlisting. In that case, an extension function is needed to preprocess the text in the programlisting to place the callout images in with the text, and that mix is then processed by DocBook XSL into PDF output. There is no equivalent extension for mixing callouts or other hot spots with images, as far as I know. I hope someone proves me wrong. Bob Stayton Sagehill Enterprises b...@sagehill.net - Original Message - From: Tyson Marchuk tmarc...@cdlsystems.com To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: [docbook-apps] Image maps in PDF output Hello, I'm new to Docbook and I'm trying to create an image map (click-able image where clicking different sections of the image results in going to different locations in the document) in a PDF document. I've run across this reference (http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/Imagemaps.html) which seems to suggest this can't be done in PDFs with Docbook but it was published in 2007 and I saw a post on this mailing list from 2012 (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/201202/msg00010.html) which seems to suggest it should work in PDFs. I've used the example code from the first link with slight modifications (copied below) on one of my graphics and changed the stylesheet to only use numbers and while the output does have the numbers and text below the graphic there does not appear to be any linking going on in the document between the graphic and callouts. Is this a limitation of PDFs or Docbook or am I doing something wrong? Thank you for your time and help, Tyson Marchuk mediaobjectco imageobjectco areaspec id=map1 units=calspair area linkends=callout1 coords=0,0 5000,1 id=area1/ area linkends=callout2 coords=5000,0 1,1 id=area2/ /areaspec imageobject imagedata fileref=images/myImage.png / /imageobject calloutlist callout arearefs=area1 id=callout1 paraMy only callout1/para /callout callout arearefs=area2 id=callout2 paraMy only callout2/para /callout /calloutlist /imageobjectco /mediaobjectco - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Image maps in PDF output
Ben and Tyson: Callouts on images are very different than image maps. To get image callouts to work with docbook you have to use either Saxon or Xalan as they need extension packages written for the specific processors (the functionality does not work with XSLT 1.0 stylesheets) These packages come as part of the stylesheet distribution under the extension directory. Pick the one that matches the processor you are using (I strongly suggest Saxon) and make sure that it is in your Java classpath. You can find more and better instructions in Bob's book: http://sagehill.net/docbookxsl/AnnotateListing.html#CalloutsGraphics Carlos On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:55 AM, ben.guillon ben.guil...@gmail.com wrote: FYI, dblatex supports callouts on images (see http://dblatex.sourceforge.* *net/example/dblatex/example.**pdfhttp://dblatex.sourceforge.net/example/dblatex/example.pdf, section 5.1). The only constraint to have relevant coordinates. Regards, BG On Mon, 07 May 2012 16:29:16 +0200, Tyson Marchuk tmarc...@cdlsystems.com wrote: Hi Bob, Thank you. I guess I'll have to do something else then if hotspots on graphics are not supported in PDFs. I did some more searching and apparently PDFs do support this (http://www.authorst.com/hot_** graphics_in_pdf_file.phphttp://www.authorst.com/hot_graphics_in_pdf_file.php) so I guess it is a limitation of the DocBook XSL to PDF conversion (which I guess is what you're saying below although I don't quite understand the concept of extensions in this context.) Thank you for your time, -Tyson On 2012/05/06 1:00 AM, Bob Stayton wrote: Hi Tyson, That message you referred to did not cover imagemaps. It was referring to using callout icons in a programlisting. In that case, an extension function is needed to preprocess the text in the programlisting to place the callout images in with the text, and that mix is then processed by DocBook XSL into PDF output. There is no equivalent extension for mixing callouts or other hot spots with images, as far as I know. I hope someone proves me wrong. Bob Stayton Sagehill Enterprises b...@sagehill.net - Original Message - From: Tyson Marchuk tmarc...@cdlsystems.com To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-**open.orgdocbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: [docbook-apps] Image maps in PDF output Hello, I'm new to Docbook and I'm trying to create an image map (click-able image where clicking different sections of the image results in going to different locations in the document) in a PDF document. I've run across this reference (http://www.sagehill.net/**docbookxsl/Imagemaps.htmlhttp://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/Imagemaps.html) which seems to suggest this can't be done in PDFs with Docbook but it was published in 2007 and I saw a post on this mailing list from 2012 ( http://lists.oasis-open.org/**archives/docbook-apps/201202/** msg00010.htmlhttp://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/201202/msg00010.html) which seems to suggest it should work in PDFs. I've used the example code from the first link with slight modifications (copied below) on one of my graphics and changed the stylesheet to only use numbers and while the output does have the numbers and text below the graphic there does not appear to be any linking going on in the document between the graphic and callouts. Is this a limitation of PDFs or Docbook or am I doing something wrong? Thank you for your time and help, Tyson Marchuk mediaobjectco imageobjectco areaspec id=map1 units=calspair area linkends=callout1 coords=0,0 5000,1 id=area1/ area linkends=callout2 coords=5000,0 1,1 id=area2/ /areaspec imageobject imagedata fileref=images/myImage.png / /imageobject calloutlist callout arearefs=area1 id=callout1 paraMy only callout1/para /callout callout arearefs=area2 id=callout2 paraMy only callout2/para /callout /calloutlist /imageobjectco /mediaobjectco --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscribe@**lists.oasis-open.orgdocbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-help@lists.oasis-** open.org docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscribe@**lists.oasis-open.orgdocbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-help@lists.oasis-** open.org docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscribe@**lists.oasis-open.orgdocbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-help@lists.oasis-**open.orgdocbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Image maps in PDF output
Ben: After reading the section I indicated from Bob's book I realized that you're correct. You can not do callouts on image files even when using the Java Extensions. The explanation for using the callout images as explained in Bob's book is still valid. Question for the Java/XSL experts on the list. Would it be possible to use callouts or links in an image if we set the z-index on the image to a negative number and then just put the image/link with a possitive z-index so they'll be above the image and thus appear as an image map? Carlos On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Carlos Araya carlos.ar...@gmail.com wrote: Ben and Tyson: Callouts on images are very different than image maps. To get image callouts to work with docbook you have to use either Saxon or Xalan as they need extension packages written for the specific processors (the functionality does not work with XSLT 1.0 stylesheets) These packages come as part of the stylesheet distribution under the extension directory. Pick the one that matches the processor you are using (I strongly suggest Saxon) and make sure that it is in your Java classpath. You can find more and better instructions in Bob's book: http://sagehill.net/docbookxsl/AnnotateListing.html#CalloutsGraphics Carlos On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:55 AM, ben.guillon ben.guil...@gmail.com wrote: FYI, dblatex supports callouts on images (see http://dblatex.sourceforge. **net/example/dblatex/example.**pdfhttp://dblatex.sourceforge.net/example/dblatex/example.pdf, section 5.1). The only constraint to have relevant coordinates. Regards, BG On Mon, 07 May 2012 16:29:16 +0200, Tyson Marchuk tmarc...@cdlsystems.com wrote: Hi Bob, Thank you. I guess I'll have to do something else then if hotspots on graphics are not supported in PDFs. I did some more searching and apparently PDFs do support this (http://www.authorst.com/hot_** graphics_in_pdf_file.phphttp://www.authorst.com/hot_graphics_in_pdf_file.php) so I guess it is a limitation of the DocBook XSL to PDF conversion (which I guess is what you're saying below although I don't quite understand the concept of extensions in this context.) Thank you for your time, -Tyson On 2012/05/06 1:00 AM, Bob Stayton wrote: Hi Tyson, That message you referred to did not cover imagemaps. It was referring to using callout icons in a programlisting. In that case, an extension function is needed to preprocess the text in the programlisting to place the callout images in with the text, and that mix is then processed by DocBook XSL into PDF output. There is no equivalent extension for mixing callouts or other hot spots with images, as far as I know. I hope someone proves me wrong. Bob Stayton Sagehill Enterprises b...@sagehill.net - Original Message - From: Tyson Marchuk tmarc...@cdlsystems.com To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-**open.orgdocbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: [docbook-apps] Image maps in PDF output Hello, I'm new to Docbook and I'm trying to create an image map (click-able image where clicking different sections of the image results in going to different locations in the document) in a PDF document. I've run across this reference (http://www.sagehill.net/**docbookxsl/Imagemaps.htmlhttp://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/Imagemaps.html) which seems to suggest this can't be done in PDFs with Docbook but it was published in 2007 and I saw a post on this mailing list from 2012 ( http://lists.oasis-open.org/**archives/docbook-apps/201202/** msg00010.htmlhttp://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/201202/msg00010.html) which seems to suggest it should work in PDFs. I've used the example code from the first link with slight modifications (copied below) on one of my graphics and changed the stylesheet to only use numbers and while the output does have the numbers and text below the graphic there does not appear to be any linking going on in the document between the graphic and callouts. Is this a limitation of PDFs or Docbook or am I doing something wrong? Thank you for your time and help, Tyson Marchuk mediaobjectco imageobjectco areaspec id=map1 units=calspair area linkends=callout1 coords=0,0 5000,1 id=area1/ area linkends=callout2 coords=5000,0 1,1 id=area2/ /areaspec imageobject imagedata fileref=images/myImage.png / /imageobject calloutlist callout arearefs=area1 id=callout1 paraMy only callout1/para /callout callout arearefs=area2 id=callout2 paraMy only callout2/para /callout /calloutlist /imageobjectco /mediaobjectco --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscribe@** lists.oasis-open.org docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-help@lists.oasis-** open.org docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
Re: [docbook-apps] Image maps in PDF output
Hi Tyson, That message you referred to did not cover imagemaps. It was referring to using callout icons in a programlisting. In that case, an extension function is needed to preprocess the text in the programlisting to place the callout images in with the text, and that mix is then processed by DocBook XSL into PDF output. There is no equivalent extension for mixing callouts or other hot spots with images, as far as I know. I hope someone proves me wrong. Bob Stayton Sagehill Enterprises b...@sagehill.net - Original Message - From: Tyson Marchuk tmarc...@cdlsystems.com To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: [docbook-apps] Image maps in PDF output Hello, I'm new to Docbook and I'm trying to create an image map (click-able image where clicking different sections of the image results in going to different locations in the document) in a PDF document. I've run across this reference (http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/Imagemaps.html) which seems to suggest this can't be done in PDFs with Docbook but it was published in 2007 and I saw a post on this mailing list from 2012 (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/201202/msg00010.html) which seems to suggest it should work in PDFs. I've used the example code from the first link with slight modifications (copied below) on one of my graphics and changed the stylesheet to only use numbers and while the output does have the numbers and text below the graphic there does not appear to be any linking going on in the document between the graphic and callouts. Is this a limitation of PDFs or Docbook or am I doing something wrong? Thank you for your time and help, Tyson Marchuk mediaobjectco imageobjectco areaspec id=map1 units=calspair area linkends=callout1 coords=0,0 5000,1 id=area1/ area linkends=callout2 coords=5000,0 1,1 id=area2/ /areaspec imageobject imagedata fileref=images/myImage.png / /imageobject calloutlist callout arearefs=area1 id=callout1 paraMy only callout1/para /callout callout arearefs=area2 id=callout2 paraMy only callout2/para /callout /calloutlist /imageobjectco /mediaobjectco - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: docbook-apps-h...@lists.oasis-open.org
