[libreoffice-documentation] Differences between PowerPoint and Impress (ODP) files

2011-07-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
In the Impress Guide, we warn people that there are some differences
between the file formats that mean not everything in one format will
convert and work in the other format.

I would like to reference a list of differences between the two, but the
only list I can find is one produced by Microsoft, and I would prefer
not to link to that.
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/powerpoint-help/differences-between-the-opendocument-presentation-odp-format-and-the-powerpoint-pptx-format-HA010287723.aspx

Is such a list available for LibreOffice? 

--Jean


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Error in Getting started - introducing impress

2011-07-24 Thread Richard
I'll look for the relevant portion of the GS chapter.
Richard.

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:

> On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 23:32 +0200, Sigrid Carrera wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > we're translating the guides currently and we found the following error
> in the getting started guide:
> >
> > You'll find the following text there:
> >
> > Caution
> > In Linux-based systems such as Ubuntu, media do not work straight out of
> the box. You need to download the Java Media Framework API (JMF) and add the
> path to jmf.jar to the Class Path in Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Java.
> >
> > I just had the confirmation, that LibreOffice 3.3 uses gstreamer instead
> of the JMF. So this caution box needs changing. And possibly the full
> impress guide too.
>
>
> Thanks, Sigrid. Indeed that will need to be changed in the Impress Guide
> as well as in the GS chapter. That's one of several items I hope we find
> and change while working on the IG chapters. (I've got to look up what
> the others are.)
>
> --Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Error in Getting started - introducing impress

2011-07-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 23:32 +0200, Sigrid Carrera wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> we're translating the guides currently and we found the following error in 
> the getting started guide: 
> 
> You'll find the following text there: 
> 
> Caution
> In Linux-based systems such as Ubuntu, media do not work straight out of the 
> box. You need to download the Java Media Framework API (JMF) and add the path 
> to jmf.jar to the Class Path in Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Java.
> 
> I just had the confirmation, that LibreOffice 3.3 uses gstreamer instead of 
> the JMF. So this caution box needs changing. And possibly the full impress 
> guide too. 


Thanks, Sigrid. Indeed that will need to be changed in the Impress Guide
as well as in the GS chapter. That's one of several items I hope we find
and change while working on the IG chapters. (I've got to look up what
the others are.)

--Jean


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco: Should we upgrade from Alfresco Community 3.4c to 3.4d?

2011-07-24 Thread David Nelson
Hi all,

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:41 AM, David Nelson  wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Jean Hollis Weber  
> wrote:
>> Just logged in again and found the text is now black. Thank you! Much
>> easier for me to read.
>
> Yes, I've been tweaking it more to get it looking OK, and was going to
> post back when done. I'm still working on that: minor details to sort
> out with the footer, so if you're working right now then the footer
> might jump about a bit - no worries, take no notice.

OK, I've finished work on the site theming. Next, I'll do the upgrade
- probably later this week, after I've properly prepared. I'll post
back to warn before going ahead.

If anyone has any other wishes as regards the site's presentation,
please do say so.

-- 
David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress -- please use LibO 3.3.x

2011-07-24 Thread John Cleland

Hi

Thanks Sigrid.  That solved the problem.

Regards


John Cleland


-Original Message- 
From: Sigrid Carrera

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 10:59 PM
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress -- please use LibO 3.3.x

Hi John,

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:37:01 +0100
"John Cleland"  wrote:


Hi

I have installed Linux, Ubuntu 10.2.  I downloaded LibreOffice from PPA.
There is no option to use Galaxy in the Options > view.  Is this because I
have downloaded the version from the PPA and not from the LibreOffice
website.  Or is this because of Linux/Ubuntu.


If I remember correctly, Ubuntu has separate packages for the other themes. 
On person on the German list had the same problem.


The links he got were the following:


http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libreoffice-style&searchon=names&suite=natty§ion=all

http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libreoffice-style-galaxy
http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libreoffice-style-tango


Maybe this is of some help for you too?

Sigrid

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress

2011-07-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Files in the English Content > Documentation > Impress Guide > Reviewed
space are ready for proofing/copyediting/further review.

Or you are welcome to review any of the files (that are not checked out
by someone else) in English Content > Documentation > Impress Guide >
Drafts.

Regarding the Base Guide chapters, you'll notice that in addition to
other things, some sections need serious editing to improve the English,
and some reorganisation of the material may improve the flow and
usability for readers. As I'm sure you can tell, these are very much
draft chapters and need a lot more work than chapters in the other
books. So whatever you can do should be an improvement.

--Jean

On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 21:59 +0100, John Cleland wrote:
> Hi Jean
> Glad you enjoyed your holiday.  I have rebranded the Base Guides and started 
> to check them and update the screenshots.
> 
> If there is anything else you need doing more than this please let me know.
> 
> I will download the impress chapters and proof read them/ work through the 
> instructions when they are ready.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> John
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Jean Hollis Weber
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:29 PM
> To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress
> 
> On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 19:06 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > Does anyone know how close the Impress Guide is to being published?  This 
> > seems
> > to be the guide that is most required at the moment.
> 
> Update:
> In the interest of faster publication, and given the SC's decision that
> Windows screenshots are acceptable, I am taking the approach that any
> screenshots not otherwise needing replacement (to change OOo to LibO,
> for example) can be left as they are for this release of the book... as
> we've done for the other already-published books.
> 
> Therefore I have started going through the Impress Guide, reviewing
> chapters against the software and making changes to text and/or
> screenshots as needed, and putting the reviewed chapters in the Reviewed
> space. I should be done with that later this week.
> 
> It would be good (and part of our standard procedures) to have someone
> else "proofread", copyedit, or otherwise check my work; but IMO if that
> doesn't happen within a week or so, we should just go ahead and publish
> what we've got... again as was done with the other books.
> 
> --Jean




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress -- please use LibO 3.3.x

2011-07-24 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi John, 

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:37:01 +0100
"John Cleland"  wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I have installed Linux, Ubuntu 10.2.  I downloaded LibreOffice from PPA. 
> There is no option to use Galaxy in the Options > view.  Is this because I 
> have downloaded the version from the PPA and not from the LibreOffice 
> website.  Or is this because of Linux/Ubuntu.

If I remember correctly, Ubuntu has separate packages for the other themes. On 
person on the German list had the same problem. 

The links he got were the following: 


http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libreoffice-style&searchon=names&suite=natty§ion=all

http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libreoffice-style-galaxy
http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libreoffice-style-tango


Maybe this is of some help for you too? 

Sigrid

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress -- please use LibO 3.3.x

2011-07-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Hmmm... On the LibO (3.3.2) that was installed with my upgrade to Ubuntu
11.04, I see Galaxy as one of the icon style choices in Options >
LibreOffice > View. So I don't know what's going on with your setup.

--Jean

On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 22:37 +0100, John Cleland wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have installed Linux, Ubuntu 10.2.  I downloaded LibreOffice from PPA. 
> There is no option to use Galaxy in the Options > view.  Is this because I 
> have downloaded the version from the PPA and not from the LibreOffice 
> website.  Or is this because of Linux/Ubuntu.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> John
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Jean Hollis Weber
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:42 PM
> To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress -- please use LibO 3.3.x
> 
> A reminder to anyone working on the Impress or Draw Guides: please use
> LibreOffice 3.3.x, NOT 3.4.x, for the first edition of these books. This
> is because there are differences between the 3.3 and 3.4 versions.
> 
> Linux users please note: for documentation, it's also best to use the
> 3.3.x downloaded from the LibreOffice website, NOT the one included with
> your distribution. Again, there are (or may be) some differences.
> 
> When we update all the books, we'll use 3.4.x.
> 
> --Jean




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco: Should we upgrade from Alfresco Community 3.4c to 3.4d?

2011-07-24 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jean,

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Jean Hollis Weber  wrote:
> Just logged in again and found the text is now black. Thank you! Much
> easier for me to read.

Yes, I've been tweaking it more to get it looking OK, and was going to
post back when done. I'm still working on that: minor details to sort
out with the footer, so if you're working right now then the footer
might jump about a bit - no worries, take no notice.

-- 
David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress -- please use LibO 3.3.x

2011-07-24 Thread John Cleland

Hi

I have installed Linux, Ubuntu 10.2.  I downloaded LibreOffice from PPA. 
There is no option to use Galaxy in the Options > view.  Is this because I 
have downloaded the version from the PPA and not from the LibreOffice 
website.  Or is this because of Linux/Ubuntu.


Regards


John

-Original Message- 
From: Jean Hollis Weber

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:42 PM
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress -- please use LibO 3.3.x

A reminder to anyone working on the Impress or Draw Guides: please use
LibreOffice 3.3.x, NOT 3.4.x, for the first edition of these books. This
is because there are differences between the 3.3 and 3.4 versions.

Linux users please note: for documentation, it's also best to use the
3.3.x downloaded from the LibreOffice website, NOT the one included with
your distribution. Again, there are (or may be) some differences.

When we update all the books, we'll use 3.4.x.

--Jean


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[libreoffice-documentation] Error in Getting started - introducing impress

2011-07-24 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi, 

we're translating the guides currently and we found the following error in the 
getting started guide: 

You'll find the following text there: 

Caution
In Linux-based systems such as Ubuntu, media do not work straight out of the 
box. You need to download the Java Media Framework API (JMF) and add the path 
to jmf.jar to the Class Path in Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Java.

I just had the confirmation, that LibreOffice 3.3 uses gstreamer instead of the 
JMF. So this caution box needs changing. And possibly the full impress guide 
too. 


Sigrid

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress

2011-07-24 Thread John Cleland

Hi Jean
Glad you enjoyed your holiday.  I have rebranded the Base Guides and started 
to check them and update the screenshots.


If there is anything else you need doing more than this please let me know.

I will download the impress chapters and proof read them/ work through the 
instructions when they are ready.


Regards


John

-Original Message- 
From: Jean Hollis Weber

Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:29 PM
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress

On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 19:06 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Does anyone know how close the Impress Guide is to being published?  This 
seems

to be the guide that is most required at the moment.


Update:
In the interest of faster publication, and given the SC's decision that
Windows screenshots are acceptable, I am taking the approach that any
screenshots not otherwise needing replacement (to change OOo to LibO,
for example) can be left as they are for this release of the book... as
we've done for the other already-published books.

Therefore I have started going through the Impress Guide, reviewing
chapters against the software and making changes to text and/or
screenshots as needed, and putting the reviewed chapters in the Reviewed
space. I should be done with that later this week.

It would be good (and part of our standard procedures) to have someone
else "proofread", copyedit, or otherwise check my work; but IMO if that
doesn't happen within a week or so, we should just go ahead and publish
what we've got... again as was done with the other books.

--Jean




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress -- please use LibO 3.3.x

2011-07-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
A reminder to anyone working on the Impress or Draw Guides: please use
LibreOffice 3.3.x, NOT 3.4.x, for the first edition of these books. This
is because there are differences between the 3.3 and 3.4 versions.

Linux users please note: for documentation, it's also best to use the
3.3.x downloaded from the LibreOffice website, NOT the one included with
your distribution. Again, there are (or may be) some differences.

When we update all the books, we'll use 3.4.x. 

--Jean


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[libreoffice-documentation] PING Song Chuan Low Re: Impress Guide

2011-07-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Hi, you have Chapters 5 and 7 of the Impress Guide checked out for over
a month (since 18 June). Are you still working on them? 

--Jean


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress

2011-07-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 19:06 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Does anyone know how close the Impress Guide is to being published?  This 
> seems 
> to be the guide that is most required at the moment.

Update:
In the interest of faster publication, and given the SC's decision that
Windows screenshots are acceptable, I am taking the approach that any
screenshots not otherwise needing replacement (to change OOo to LibO,
for example) can be left as they are for this release of the book... as
we've done for the other already-published books. 

Therefore I have started going through the Impress Guide, reviewing
chapters against the software and making changes to text and/or
screenshots as needed, and putting the reviewed chapters in the Reviewed
space. I should be done with that later this week.

It would be good (and part of our standard procedures) to have someone
else "proofread", copyedit, or otherwise check my work; but IMO if that
doesn't happen within a week or so, we should just go ahead and publish
what we've got... again as was done with the other books.

--Jean




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco: Should we upgrade from Alfresco Community 3.4c to 3.4d?

2011-07-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 10:13 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 05:29 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> > 
> > Your revisions of the Share interface look good.
> 
> Now that I'm using it, I find the green text difficult to read in the
> pop-up dialogs and in the boxes on the home page (especially the paler
> green and/or dark green on a pale green background).
> 
> If it's possible, I would much prefer the text to be black. The
> navigation tree on the left is good that way. (I don't mind the
> filenames and user names in the repository lists on the right being in
> green.)


Just logged in again and found the text is now black. Thank you! Much
easier for me to read.

--Jean


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco: Should we upgrade from Alfresco Community 3.4c to 3.4d?

2011-07-24 Thread Juan C. Sanz

El 23/07/2011 21:29, Jean Hollis Weber escribió:

On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 21:10 +0300, David Nelson wrote:

Hi,

The Alfresco project has recently released a new minor version of
Alfresco Community Edition (the version we're using): we're on 3.4c
and 3.4d is out.

It looks like the new version would resolve an issue we are currently
having with the use of accented characters in folder names under the
Share interface at http://documentation.libreoffice.org (problem
reported by Juan Sanz of the Spanish community - it does not arise if
you use the Explorer interface at http://alfresco.libreoffice.org).

My inclination would be to go ahead with the upgrade, but I wanted to
ask for your opinions first.

If there were no comments or if the consensus was to upgrade, I'd
probably work on it at sometime over the next week, after properly
backing-up our content and preparing for a rollback if needed.

Similarly, I'd be inclined to retire the Explorer interface and just
keep the Share interface, because this would make it simpler to learn
and document how to use Alfresco.

Any thoughts about this?

BTW, FYI, this week I worked on the presentation of the Share
interface to align it with the LibreOffice color pallet, to adjust the
footer content to TDF requirements and to collect visitation stats via
Piwik.


My opinion: upgrade to the latest version of Alfresco. If this does in
fact solve the problem of accented characters in folder names under the
Share interface, then go ahead and retire the Explorer interface.

Your revisions of the Share interface look good.

--Jean




+1

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress

2011-07-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Fantastic, thanks :)  I really meant that it would be good to finish off 
something that was nearly complete and get it published just to get a result 
out 
there fairly fast.  However, work on the Impress Guide would be very much 
appreciated.  


Work outside TDF is a higher priority than work here for everyone so there is 
no 
need to apologise for that!  It is great to see you return tho :)
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)





From: Jaimon Jacob 
To: "documentation@global.libreoffice.org" 

Sent: Sun, 24 July, 2011 4:45:19
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress

Hi all,

Sorry...I was too busy at work to be involved here. I will try to help what I 
can though. I have checked out a document from Impress for reviewing.

Jaimon


- Original Message -
From: Tom Davies 
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress

Hi :)
Ahah.  For some reason i thought Impress just needed a few moments work to 
complete but had been stuck at that stage for a month or so.  I was probably 
getting muddled with the Math guide, which i thought was a long way off.  

Thanks and regards from
Tom :)


From: Jean Hollis Weber 
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 23 July, 2011 21:00:25
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress

On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 19:06 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Does anyone know how close the Impress Guide is to being published?  This 
> seems 
>
>
> to be the guide that is most required at the moment.  Draw, Base and Math 
> would 
>
>
> be nice but Impress is the one app that people seem to be asking about the 
>most.

Looking at the status of the files, I suspect the Impress Guide is quite
a ways from being published. Some chapters have been worked on, but need
further review; two have been checked out by Song Chuan Low over a month
ago but not returned; and others haven't been touched since I uploaded
them two months ago.

Now that I am home again, and expect to be here for awhile, I plan to
get back to work on this book as soon as I have tidied up some other
things, including finishing the OOo Draw Guide and bringing in any
changes to the LibO Draw Guide.

BTW, the Math Guide is done, but I notice that I failed to update the
offical docs list on http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
to include it and the printed copy of the Calc Guide. The wiki page
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation includes the Math Guide
but not the printed copy of the Calc Guide. I'll update both of those
pages later today.

--Jean


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