[libreoffice-documentation] Does LibreOffice has official User Guide in Chinese?

2012-05-01 Thread Sunny
Hi All!

I use LibreOffice recently, both in Windows and Linux. But I found
that there was no Official User Guide in Chinese. I search it on
Google, and still didn't find yet. (Maybe I lost something)

So does there have any LibreOffice User Guide in Chinese? If not, I
may start to translate it, first to Simplified, then to Traditional.
If I finished it. I want to submit it to community. To help other people
who spoke Chinese to learn and use LibreOffice easily.
Could someone give me an official answer? 

Thanks!

Regards 
Sun

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide corrections

2012-05-01 Thread Jean Weber
> --- On Tue, 1/5/12, Jean-Francois Nifenecker 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Le 01/05/2012 16:24, Nino Novak a écrit :
>> 
>> Maybe you can find a Macro which does exactly this? Perhaps Andrew can help?
> 
> Well... I'm doing this by "hand" :)
> 

You probably already know that LO has a way to generate a list of the styles in 
use in a document. I don't recall how much detail is included, however; 
probably not as much as you want. 

Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 3.4

2012-05-01 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker

Le 01/05/2012 21:45, John Smith a écrit :

Hi
Chapter 3 of the guide has been uploaded to ODF Calc Drafts.
Chapter 4 now in progress.


The apostrophe!
Just curious here, but ...
Doing a search or a search and replace looking for the apostrophe used
in 'contractions' like 'we'll', returns no hits, even when I'm sitting
three lines above one. It finds the 'we', and it finds the 'll', but not
the whole word, nor the apostrophe alone. Over-typing the apostrophe and
doing the search finds it ok.
So I was just curious about what character is used for the apostrophe in
the documents, if it's not U+0027.
As I said, just curious.


FYI, during the documentation styles cataloging I've started a few hours 
ago, I've noticed that not all paragraph styles have the same language 
defined. Some have EN (USA) while others have EN (Aus). Could this 
language thingy play the trick you're noticing?


Note also, that the FR apostrophe, for instance, is not U+0027 but 
U+2019. BTW, this can be (un)set in Tools / Autocorrect options / 
Localized Options, Single quotes.


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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 3.4

2012-05-01 Thread John Smith

Hi
Chapter 3 of the guide has been uploaded to ODF Calc Drafts.
Chapter 4 now in progress.


The apostrophe!
Just curious here, but ...
Doing a search or a search and replace looking for the apostrophe used 
in 'contractions' like 'we'll', returns no hits, even when I'm sitting 
three lines above one. It finds the 'we', and it finds the 'll', but not 
the whole word, nor the apostrophe alone. Over-typing the apostrophe and 
doing the search finds it ok.
So I was just curious about what character is used for the apostrophe in 
the documents, if it's not U+0027.

As I said, just curious.

John

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide corrections

2012-05-01 Thread Nino Novak
Jean-Francois, 

first, I did not mean to distract you from work! Please go ahead, all the 
ideas are just suggestions for "nice2have" long term improvements. But nothing 
should prevent you from sorting out Documentaton styles.

On Tuesday 01 May 2012, 17:49:32 Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:

> Yes, sure (I have a zero-knowledge wrt to macros and don't want to put
> my toes into that; some kind of an allergy I'd say). I also know the FR
> community have their own styles when they translate the guides (eg, they
> convert OOoXxxx into LibOXxxx). Anyway, we have to start somewhere and,
> to me, the basis is the international documentation.

Full agreement.

 
> 1. Create a catalog of the styles present in the documentation
> There are
> (a) stock styles (very few)
> (b) custom styles (many)
> 
> 2. Analyse the naming
> (a) collisions-like
> (b) names too close between categories
> (c) ambiguous names
> (d) non-fonctional names
> 
> 3. Analyse the uses for styles

(including properties and inheritance)

 
> 4. Propose a move
> (a) Styles that would go from custom to stock
> (b) Custom styles to rename for better understanding
> (c) Custom styles to leave alone
> 
> 5. Document the move
> So that documentation writers know what's up.
> 
> 6. Do the move.
> (a) Create the new template-s
> (b) Convert the guides
> 
> 
> Ouch.

1. Every long journey starts with the first step.
2. You are not alone. 

Regards,
Nino

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[libreoffice-documentation] LO Writer Guide: Chapter 14: Working with fields

2012-05-01 Thread Hazel Russman
p.395. Reference to Fig 399 is wrong. I think he means Fig 407.

p.397. Refernce to Fig 403. Should be Fig 406.

p.398. Reference to Fig 396. Should be Fig 408.

p.399. Reference to Fig 395. Should be Fig 409.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide corrections

2012-05-01 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker

Le 01/05/2012 17:22, Nino Novak a écrit :

On Tuesday 01 May 2012, 16:42:05 Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:


Le 01/05/2012 16:24, Nino Novak a écrit :

Maybe you can find a Macro which does exactly this? Perhaps Andrew can
help?

Well... I'm doing this by "hand" :)


:-)

That's ok for one document.

But remember, there are lots of template based documents in the Documentation
area! E.g. the German translations are based on somewhat different styles with
completely different names. With a macro one could quickly list all the styles
used in that particular document, so comparison would be a lot quicker/easier.



Yes, sure (I have a zero-knowledge wrt to macros and don't want to put 
my toes into that; some kind of an allergy I'd say). I also know the FR 
community have their own styles when they translate the guides (eg, they 
convert OOoXxxx into LibOXxxx). Anyway, we have to start somewhere and, 
to me, the basis is the international documentation.


I can see the documentation styles and templates workflow as:

1. Create a catalog of the styles present in the documentation
There are
(a) stock styles (very few)
(b) custom styles (many)

2. Analyse the naming
(a) collisions-like
(b) names too close between categories
(c) ambiguous names
(d) non-fonctional names

3. Analyse the uses for styles

4. Propose a move
(a) Styles that would go from custom to stock
(b) Custom styles to rename for better understanding
(c) Custom styles to leave alone

5. Document the move
So that documentation writers know what's up.

6. Do the move.
(a) Create the new template-s
(b) Convert the guides


Ouch.
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide corrections

2012-05-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Apparently some people in Mexico were able to access the internet through a 
ham-radio set-up.  Not hugely fast but good for emailing apparently.  I guess 2 
cups and a bit of string is pushing it.  Pigeons have a high "dropped packets" 
rate but packet size can be considerably larger especially with usb-sticks.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 1/5/12, Jean-Francois Nifenecker 
 wrote:

From: Jean-Francois Nifenecker 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide corrections
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 1 May, 2012, 15:42

Hi All,

Le 01/05/2012 16:24, Nino Novak a écrit :
> 
> Maybe you can find a Macro which does exactly this? Perhaps Andrew can help?

Well... I'm doing this by "hand" :)

> 

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide corrections

2012-05-01 Thread Nino Novak
On Tuesday 01 May 2012, 16:42:05 Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:

> Le 01/05/2012 16:24, Nino Novak a écrit :
> > Maybe you can find a Macro which does exactly this? Perhaps Andrew can
> > help?
> Well... I'm doing this by "hand" :)

:-)

That's ok for one document. 

But remember, there are lots of template based documents in the Documentation 
area! E.g. the German translations are based on somewhat different styles with 
completely different names. With a macro one could quickly list all the styles 
used in that particular document, so comparison would be a lot quicker/easier.

 
> > I assume, the styles reside all in the Document Template. So what you
> > propose is cleaning up the Document template, I'd say.
> 
> I didn't remember of the existence of that template (and dunno where it
> template lies), so I'm using the Getting Started Guide for LibO 3.4.
> (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/00/GS3400-GettingStartedLibO.od
> t). I think/hope that document has most if not all the styles needed.
> 
> If someone can point me in the right direction, I'll happily get my
> hands on the template.

I think, Jean knows where the most recent User Guide Template resides.
 

> I'm currently working on a Calc spreadsheet that summarizes the styles
> and their settings (when different from the defaults).

Great!

Regards,
Nino

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide corrections

2012-05-01 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker

Hi All,

Le 01/05/2012 16:24, Nino Novak a écrit :


Maybe you can find a Macro which does exactly this? Perhaps Andrew can help?


Well... I'm doing this by "hand" :)



I assume, the styles reside all in the Document Template. So what you propose
is cleaning up the Document template, I'd say.


I didn't remember of the existence of that template (and dunno where it 
template lies), so I'm using the Getting Started Guide for LibO 3.4. 
(http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/00/GS3400-GettingStartedLibO.odt). 
I think/hope that document has most if not all the styles needed.


If someone can point me in the right direction, I'll happily get my 
hands on the template.




Go ahead!


Doing so ;)

I'm currently working on a Calc spreadsheet that summarizes the styles 
and their settings (when different from the defaults).


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide corrections

2012-05-01 Thread Nino Novak
Hi Jean-François,

On Tuesday 01 May 2012, 08:24:20 Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:

> Le 26/04/2012 23:24, Jean Weber a écrit :
> > I'm sure it will require starting from scratch, with a
> > totally new and clean template (not modified from an existing
> > template) and files, pasting in everything in unformatted text,
> > reformatting, the works... just to find out if it's a bug in our files
> > (which I'm convinced it is) or a bug in LO itself. We've talked a bit
> > about creating a new template, dropping the custom styles in favour of
> > using the built-in styles, and doing other clean-up stuff, which could
> > be part of the same exercise. But the prospect of the work involved is
> > daunting, and it will take away so much time that could be spent
> > keeping info up to date... even though I know that, if it works, it
> > should make compiling and debugging a book so much less
> > time-consuming.
> 
> Could we first establish a table summarizing the guides styles?
>
> We could list:
> current style, parent style, stock style replacement (if any), style
> settings, notes
> 
> I'm willing to help into creating that list.

+1

Maybe you can find a Macro which does exactly this? Perhaps Andrew can help?

I assume, the styles reside all in the Document Template. So what you propose 
is cleaning up the Document template, I'd say. 

Go ahead! 

Regards, Nino



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[libreoffice-documentation] Fw: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I link data from a LibreOffice Database (linked to a MySQL Server) to a LibreOffice Spreadsheet?

2012-05-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Andreas seems unable to stop himself being quite rude to people, often even 
unnecessarily.  However he is brillant at quite a lot to do with databases.  I 
think the docs team would probably welcome him (at least initially), right?  

Personally i think he is a classic "back seat driver" ("takes one to know one" 
i guess).  I have never seen the docs team be anything other than friendly and 
helpful
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 1/5/12, Andreas Säger  wrote:

From: Andreas Säger 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I link data from a LibreOffice Database 
(linked to a MySQL Server) to a LibreOffice Spreadsheet?
To: us...@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 1 May, 2012, 13:52

Am 01.05.2012 01:45, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> If you feel you could produce good guides then i'm sure the docs team would 
> be glad to welcome you in.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>

No, they woudn't!



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