Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Book on Styles Templates in LibreOffice
Hi Jean! Le 13/04/2013 07:39, Jean Weber a écrit : Friends of OpenDocument, Inc. has signed a contract with Bruce Byfield to write a book that I and some other members of the Docs team have talked about for years but no one has come forth to write. (Despite announcing a year or two ago that I had started work on it, I never found the time to continue.) See Bruce's blog entry for more information. http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/I-ve-signed-to-write-an-advanced-book-on-LibreOffice I am now looking for people to review individual chapters or the whole book as they are written over the next six months or so. Please contact me if you're interested. We need both technical reviewers (people who know enough to tell whether Bruce has got it right) as well as non-technical reviewers (who can tell whether Bruce's explanations make sense to the uninitiated). Yay! Styles are the cornerstone of text processing. The software itself should emphasize that. Dunno where it comes from, but I like this sentence which says it all: If you don't use styles, the text processor sees the characters. When using styles, the software understands the document. (cited from the top of my mind) I'm eager to see that book come to daylight as the lack of information in that matter bugs me for a very long time. BTW, a few years ago, I'd written a 50 pages doc about this very topic for the FR OOo documentation [1]. Though my time is still very sparse, I'd be more than happy to have a glance at Bruce's book. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Documentation/Guides/StylesModeles.pdf (in French) -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: PING Tim Lloyd: Base Handbook Chapter 2 needs review
Hi :) Is it possible to directly make the changes and save the updated document? Aren't comments mostly meant for dealing with uncertainties to get feedback from the list? Err, it's a fairly genuine question because i really don't know the answer. Different stages of the process presumably have different rules. In accountancy if i find an extra receipt while drawing up working papers then i can usually just add it in but if i found it after getting to trial balance then i'd have to do the equivalent of making a separate comment (and excuse) about each receipt. Regards from Tom :) From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com To: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Cc: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 23:48 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: PING Tim Lloyd: Base Handbook Chapter 2 needs review Jean, I have been through chapter 4, chapter 3 to follow: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-handbook/edited/base-h-b-chapter-4-tl-version/view this is a pretty big document and there are a number of comments I have added. Most of them would be picked up by a spell checker but I have raised a few questions on content also. Cheers Tim On 04/09/2013 10:51 AM, Jean Weber wrote: Thanks, Robert. I've amended the file and it's ready for someone to proofread. Tim, would you like to have a look at this one? Also Chapters 3 and 4, if you haven't already done them. Thanks! --Jean On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:14 AM, Robert Großkopf rob...@familiegrosskopf.de wrote: Hello Jean, Robert: please review Base Handbook Chapter 2. There are questions to be answered. Thank you! I've dropped in your new screenshots. http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-handbook/edited/base-h-b-ch2-creating-a-database/view I only found one question about a missleading paragraph. We have changed the same paragraph a little bit in Base-Handbuch 4.0. I have written a comment, changed the text a little bit - if the parsgraph is misledaing it could also be deleted. Regards, Robert -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing speed is glacial for large file
Hi :) It might be worth asking the Documentation Team how they build-up their guides? Regards from Tom :) From: David Ronis ro...@ronispc.chem.mcgill.ca To: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com Cc: us...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 20:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing speed is glacial for large file Hi Kracked, That's what I'm doing. I have 55 chapters in separate odt files and use a master document (odm) to join them together, add a table of contents and a cover page. While I can't call LO's speed on some of the individual chapter files blindingly fast, especially on the lager ones with lots of graphics, it's fast enough. The combined result is the issue. David On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 15:18 -0400, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: I know that a professional writer of sci-fi and fantasy novels/paper-backs makes each chapter of his books a separate file, and he usually have 15 to 25 chapters. I too have never heard of making a document more than 50 to 100 pages per file. Just paging through it would be slow, even on my mid-range quad desktop with 4 GB of RAM. To be honest, you might really find it better to break the document up by sections of no more than 50 pages or so, if possible. I know there must be a way to define the starting page number for each chapter, or do the sectional page numbering in the footer - i.e. Section VII Page 35 On 04/12/2013 02:30 PM, Girvin Herr wrote: David, That may or may not be true. I am not familiar with the free, etc. tools you mention, but they may be reporting system free memory, while the LO settings are limits for LO and may be topping out while there is still free system memory available. I would take a look at the document file size and maybe triple that or more for the LO settings. Keep in mind that the file is compressed, so you should at least double that size, assuming a nominal 50% compression. You could count the number of graphics in your document to get the max number of graphics setting. 1600 pages is a lot. I have many large documents but I don't think any of them are 1600 pages. Maybe hundreds of pages at the most. So I don't have any experience with a document that large. Too bad LO doesn't have a memory pool usage dialog where one could see the memory usage. Hint, hint to the devs. With such a tool, we wouldn't need to be guessing about these settings. I suggest you try File - Properties and select the General tab. There is a report on the document Size there. Use the Statistics tab to see some other allocations, such as number of graphics. Use of this data may help you zero in on acceptable memory allocation settings. Hope this helps. Girvin Herr On 04/12/2013 09:08 AM, David Ronis wrote: Hi Andrew, Thanks for the reply. In short, I'd already upped the memory options for graphics (250MB total, 10MB per object, 100 objects) and tools like free etc. show that I'm nowhere close to using all my memory (with or without swapping enabled). David On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 22:04 -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: Have you attempted anything in particular to see if it allows for a speed improvement? For example: 1. Check on memory usage. How high is it? Are you running out of memory? 2. Change graphics settings: Tools Options LibreOffice Memory Then try increasing the memory for things such as graphics objects and number of objects? On 04/11/2013 01:59 PM, David Ronis wrote: Hi Girvin, Most of the graphics in the document are PDF pages that I've imported into Draw and then cut and pasted them into an odt file, which in turn is incorporated into the full document as laid out in the odm file. Also normal scrolling of the odm document is horrendously slow as well (minutes to scroll to the next page and redraw). David -Original Message- From: Girvin Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net To: us...@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing speed is glacial for large file Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 10:21:16 -0700 On 04/10/2013 03:13 PM, David Ronis wrote: I have a project managed by an odm file that ends up being ca 1600 pages long and contains several OLE objects, many graphics (some comprising entire pages that started out as PDFs). I find LO unbelievably slow (even on such simple things as refreshing the window after remapping it). I've turned of recording/displaying changes, upped the graphics cache numbers, set the swap directory to a ram disk, and turned off all to-disk swapping; nothing helps. This is on a 2 CPU machine with gig's of ram. I'm currently trying to print the project to a file (postscript format). This takes 4-6 hours, with 1 of the CPU's running at 100% [BTW is LO multi-threaded?].
