Re: [libreoffice-documentation] WG Chapter 5; PrintingExportingEmailing

2014-03-17 Thread John Smith
Yes I do Jean, thanks. I think the Sidebar is going to increase in 
importance as LibO evolves and I want to cover as much as I can in 
anticipation of this. I'm going to put as much introductory information 
as I can into 'WG Ch1', and begin stitching it into all the explanations 
throughout the chapters. I'll finish 'WG Ch1' first and then go back to 
'GS Ch4-Getting started with Writer' and do some more edits. After that 
I'll look at the other GS guides relevant to Writer and do the same there.


Regards
JohnS
On 17/03/2014 05:51, Jean Weber wrote:

On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 4:11 AM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

This chapter now uploaded to ODF, Writer Drafts 4.2 folder.

JohnS

I have reviewed this chapter and placed it in the Writer 4.2 Feedback folder.

I have not reviewed Chapters 3 and 4 because I thought you might want
to make further changes related to including info about the sidebar.

--Jean




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[libreoffice-documentation] WG4.2 Ch 1 Introducing Writer

2014-03-17 Thread John Smith

This chapter uploaded to ODF here after further edits;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/writer-guide/feedback-4.2/wg4-2-ch1-introducing-writer/view

JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Book distribution, production, and related matters

2014-03-17 Thread timothy . m . butterworth
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 04:48:09 PM you wrote:
 On Monday, March 17, 2014 06:39:24 AM you wrote:
  I changed the subject line.
  
  On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 6:01 AM,  timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Sunday, March 16, 2014 09:47:33 AM you wrote:
   On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 6:58 AM,  timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:24:11 AM you wrote:
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:15:06 AM you wrote:
 On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote:
   Jean,
   
   Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and
   Google
   Books
   to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to
   epub.)
   It
   would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as
   Kobo
   would
   also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This
   would
   certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if
   they
   are
   provided for free and would provide some great advertising as
   well.
   
   I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I
   have
   not
   actually tried them out though.
   
   Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I
   would
   like
   to
   learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how
   and
   wants
   to
   lead this then I am willing to port some chapters!
   
   Tim
  
  Tim,
  As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up:
  yes,
  it
  is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats)
  to
  be
  stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books)
  will
  take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now
  there
  is
  not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is
  not.
  I
  have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books.
  
  Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's)
  has
  cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the
  energy
  to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider
  using
  them, but others can pursue this if they wish to.
  
  We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other
  formats)
  from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and
  publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and
  PDFs
  for users to download at no cost.
  
  Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has
  said
  that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier
  job
  of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think
  Dan
  is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but
  that's
  for
  him to say.
  ev
  IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the
  conversion process easier and give better results. I have
  documented
  some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by
  searching
  the
  archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly
  the
  changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever
  possible and using the built-in style names instead.
  
  This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new
  template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for
  various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few
  years
  seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the
  appearance
  of
  the resulting PDFs  printed books and not on changes that
  affect
  the
  conversion process to other formats.
  
  --Jean
 
 Jean,
 
 I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books
 Partnership
 Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting
 Started
 Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and
 Google
 Play
 for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently
 processing
 it
 for full text search/indexing it is set to become available
 immediately
 upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format
 from
 Google
 Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed
 version
 from
 Lulu as well.
 
 I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is
 pretty
 fast and relatively easy.
 
 I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this
 one
 turns
 out.
 
 
 Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for
 multiple
 administrators to ease management/updates etc.
 
 Tim

Jean,

I attempted to upload the .ODT version hoping to make it an
additional

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Book distribution, production, and related matters

2014-03-17 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Tim,

Thanks for doing all of this, much appreciated. -- Marc

Le 17/03/14 11:38 PM, timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com a écrit :


All,

All of the manuals with the exception of the plug-in installation manual are
now live on Google Play Books. The issues with Draw are not resolved, it was
corrupted during upload. I also tried out the Draw Manual on my Moto G Through
The Google Play Books Android app and it displays well although it requires
zooming and scrolling.

These will display nicely though on 7 8 10 Android tablets though and they
do work well through the Chrome web browser directly from Google Play as well.

Hopefully this will provide some additional advertising for LibreOffice and
possibly help to further adoption. There have been 8 sales transactions so far
but only two that were not mine. I have collected a few +1's though.

If anyone is currently a Safari Books user please check to see if they are
available there and if not request that they start carrying them.  This would
be a nice addition with their IT Books service!

Tim




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