Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base documentation - Forms

2014-10-03 Thread Jean Weber
On Friday, October 3, 2014, Peter Goggin petergog...@bigpond.com wrote:

 On 03/10/14 13:48, Jean Weber wrote:

 Peter,
 You were able to log in to ODFAuthors and upload the file, so your
 user name is clearly valid. I just checked and you appear to have the
 necessary permissions to change a file's status, so I don't know why
 you can't. Don't worry about it; it's not stopping you from doing
 anything else. Anyway, there is no reviewed status for files on the
 ODFAuthors website; we keep track of that on the wiki:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/
 UserGuideTasks#Status_of_tasks_BH_v4.2

 As for checking out another chapter, just download it from ODFAuthors.
 Then put your initials in the Checked out column on the wiki page I
 linked above.

 Yes, I know it's a slightly clunky system. We tried to do a more
 automated one several years ago, using a different platform, but it
 didn't work out. (Long, boring explanation omitted here.) The people
 actually doing the work at the time appeared to be happy with the
 system we're using. Of course, it may be time to change the system, if
 enough people find it's a problem and want to do something different.

 Lastly, I see there was no folder for Reviewed 4.2, so I have created
 one and moved your reviewed file from Drafts 4.2 to the new folder.
 Using different folders seems to help people keep track of what stage
 a file has reached.
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-handbook/reviewed-4.2/

 --Jean

  This is the page where I cannot edit or change the fields in the table.
 If I try to log on using my ODF login it says I am not a user.

 How can I change the status of files in this page?

 I have downloaded the Queries chapter (4.2 Chapter 6 Queries)  and will
 work on this
 Regards

 Peter Goggin.


Which precise page are you attempting to access without success? You
uploaded a file to ODFAuthors so you definitely have a working login there.

If you mean the LibreOffice wiki page, that is a different website
which uses its own login, separate from ODFAuthors. You should be able to
create your own login on the wiki: look for the link in the upper right
hand corner. You can use the same username etc when you create your account
there, if you wish.

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base documentation - Forms

2014-10-03 Thread Jean Weber
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Friday, October 3, 2014, Peter Goggin petergog...@bigpond.com wrote:

 On 03/10/14 13:48, Jean Weber wrote:

 Peter,
 You were able to log in to ODFAuthors and upload the file, so your
 user name is clearly valid. I just checked and you appear to have the
 necessary permissions to change a file's status, so I don't know why
 you can't. Don't worry about it; it's not stopping you from doing
 anything else. Anyway, there is no reviewed status for files on the
 ODFAuthors website; we keep track of that on the wiki:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks#Status_of_tasks_BH_v4.2

 As for checking out another chapter, just download it from ODFAuthors.
 Then put your initials in the Checked out column on the wiki page I
 linked above.

 Yes, I know it's a slightly clunky system. We tried to do a more
 automated one several years ago, using a different platform, but it
 didn't work out. (Long, boring explanation omitted here.) The people
 actually doing the work at the time appeared to be happy with the
 system we're using. Of course, it may be time to change the system, if
 enough people find it's a problem and want to do something different.

 Lastly, I see there was no folder for Reviewed 4.2, so I have created
 one and moved your reviewed file from Drafts 4.2 to the new folder.
 Using different folders seems to help people keep track of what stage
 a file has reached.
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-handbook/reviewed-4.2/

 --Jean

 This is the page where I cannot edit or change the fields in the table. If
 I try to log on using my ODF login it says I am not a user.

 How can I change the status of files in this page?

 I have downloaded the Queries chapter (4.2 Chapter 6 Queries)  and will
 work on this
 Regards

 Peter Goggin.


 Which precise page are you attempting to access without success? You
 uploaded a file to ODFAuthors so you definitely have a working login there.

 If you mean the LibreOffice wiki page, that is a different website which
 uses its own login, separate from ODFAuthors. You should be able to create
 your own login on the wiki: look for the link in the upper right hand
 corner. You can use the same username etc when you create your account
 there, if you wish.

 --Jean

Sorry, the wiki page referred to is actually on the Document
Foundation wiki, as shown in the URL.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer 4.2 Guide now compiled and published

2014-10-03 Thread Hazel Russman
On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 13:58:39 +1000
Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 No doubt it features the usual assortment of minor problems that I
 didn't catch, but the ODT and PDF are on the wiki, and the ODT is on
 ODFAuthors. Feel free to report whatever you find.
 
 I'll get it listed on the LibreOffice website soon, and get the
 printed copy published when I find time (probably over the weekend).
 
 As usual, while compiling the book I found little things that needed
 fixing in the individual chapters. Many (most) chapters have been
 replaced on the wiki and ODFAuthors.
 
 Lastly, if whoever was cleaning the files of internal xml problems
 has the time to clean the WG files, that would be great.
 
 --Jean
 

I'll have a look at it over the next few weeks and report on anything I
can find that needs fixing.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base documentation - Forms

2014-10-03 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi Peter,

can you post the link to the page you are trying to edit? Then maybe Jean
or I can have a look at your rights.
But as Jean already pointed out, you have the same rights as any other user
that can check in documents...
However, it could be a bug, that's why I'm aksing.


Sigrid

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer 4.2 Guide now compiled and published

2014-10-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I am sure it is plenty good enough!  The might be minor problems but i
don't think it's worth trying to catch them now.

Apparently a VERY early pre-pre-release version of branch 4.4.0 is possible
to acquire from somewhere super-secret now.  If any more work on the Writer
Guide takes place it'd be fantastic if it's towards an initial draft for
the 4.4.x branch.

There is a lot else to do at the moment.  The Base Handbook is well
under-way now.  Gary (new) is keen to do early chapters but is still trying
to figure out how to download chapters from ODFAuthors.  Alan Cook
(new(ish)?) was keen for someone to review Chapter 8.  Most chapters are
available for review or proof-reading.  I know you did a LOT of work on
that early on so it'd be great to have your input on a fairly final
polishing.

Peter S is working on Draw and Math, i think focussing on the Math Guide at
the moment.  Does that have new Chapters for this release?  If so should i
add them to the wiki?

I'm sure there is other stuff too but i just wanted to show where people
seem to be currently focussing on, or need help with.

The Writer Guide is perfect enough and is undoubtedly truly excellent as it
is.
Regards from
Tom :)



On 3 October 2014 11:38, Hazel Russman hazeldeb...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 13:58:39 +1000
 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

  No doubt it features the usual assortment of minor problems that I
  didn't catch, but the ODT and PDF are on the wiki, and the ODT is on
  ODFAuthors. Feel free to report whatever you find.
 
  I'll get it listed on the LibreOffice website soon, and get the
  printed copy published when I find time (probably over the weekend).
 
  As usual, while compiling the book I found little things that needed
  fixing in the individual chapters. Many (most) chapters have been
  replaced on the wiki and ODFAuthors.
 
  Lastly, if whoever was cleaning the files of internal xml problems
  has the time to clean the WG files, that would be great.
 
  --Jean
 

 I'll have a look at it over the next few weeks and report on anything I
 can find that needs fixing.

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 your right to belong to a trade union and now you are taking away my
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] introduction

2014-10-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think you need the 4.2.6 version, here's a link to it
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=win-x86version=4.2.6lang=en-US

It might be a good idea to save this wiki-page too
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

It helps to have the 4.2.6 alongside whichever version you normally use


I think i have updated the Status Wiki correctly but please let me know.
It's easy to sign chapters in again after the weekend if you didn't get
time to have a look through them.  I'd be surprised if you have time to
even get through 1 tbh but it's good to have choices and they are
available.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks#Status_of_tasks_BH_v4.2

Regards from
Tom :)



On 3 October 2014 14:32, Gary Collins gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi,
 What I'm mainly  interested in is going through the documentation for base
 and checking that the processes are correct - i.e. that things work the way
 the documentation says it should. To this end I have just downloaded BH4202
 creatng a database and BH4203 Tables to take home and have a look at over
 the weekend. I haven't yet got my head around the signing process, and time
 here in the office is a bit short today. I'll be on LO4.3.2 win86, I think
 that's the right one.
 Hopefully I'll get into the swing of the way things work here very soon!!
 best,
 /Gary




 
  From: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
 To: Gary Collins gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk
 Cc: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org 
 documentation@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Monday, 29 September 2014, 0:21
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] introduction


 Hey Gary,

 Great to have you volunteering! So I believe you'll want to check out:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/7/74/Producing-LO-userguides.pdf

 If you go to the How to Review a Chapter section - I believe that's
 where the documentation team is at in the process. There are several
 chapters still needing reviewed. If you haven't already set up and
 ODFAuthor account, please let us know (preferably in a new email thread).


 Best,
 Joel




 On 09/26/2014 01:38 AM, Gary Collins wrote:
  Hi,
  I'm Gary. The 'joining the LibreOffice Document Team document says to
 introduce myself on the list, and as I can't remember that I've done that,
 I'm doing it now! I've signed up to help with review of the documentation,
 with a particular interest in helping with base. my current work - which is
 also voluntary - involves me learning spit MS /spit Access; at home I
 use LO for any office type tasks, and I use it wherever possible at work as
 well. I'm still very new to databases in general, but it's been something
 I've been meaning to get around to learning for ages, and this seems as
 good a way as any!
 
  Let me know where and how to get started,
  /Gary
 
 
 
  


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base documentation - Forms

2014-10-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I tried to fix it to show the right updated status of the 2 chapters in
question.

I think it's correct?  Peter, is that correct now?
Regards from
Tom :)


On 3 October 2014 11:26, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Friday, October 3, 2014, Peter Goggin petergog...@bigpond.com
 wrote:
 
  On 03/10/14 13:48, Jean Weber wrote:
 
  Peter,
  You were able to log in to ODFAuthors and upload the file, so your
  user name is clearly valid. I just checked and you appear to have the
  necessary permissions to change a file's status, so I don't know why
  you can't. Don't worry about it; it's not stopping you from doing
  anything else. Anyway, there is no reviewed status for files on the
  ODFAuthors website; we keep track of that on the wiki:
 
 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks#Status_of_tasks_BH_v4.2
 
  As for checking out another chapter, just download it from ODFAuthors.
  Then put your initials in the Checked out column on the wiki page I
  linked above.
 
  Yes, I know it's a slightly clunky system. We tried to do a more
  automated one several years ago, using a different platform, but it
  didn't work out. (Long, boring explanation omitted here.) The people
  actually doing the work at the time appeared to be happy with the
  system we're using. Of course, it may be time to change the system, if
  enough people find it's a problem and want to do something different.
 
  Lastly, I see there was no folder for Reviewed 4.2, so I have created
  one and moved your reviewed file from Drafts 4.2 to the new folder.
  Using different folders seems to help people keep track of what stage
  a file has reached.
 
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-handbook/reviewed-4.2/
 
  --Jean
 
  This is the page where I cannot edit or change the fields in the table.
 If
  I try to log on using my ODF login it says I am not a user.
 
  How can I change the status of files in this page?
 
  I have downloaded the Queries chapter (4.2 Chapter 6 Queries)  and will
  work on this
  Regards
 
  Peter Goggin.
 
 
  Which precise page are you attempting to access without success? You
  uploaded a file to ODFAuthors so you definitely have a working login
 there.
 
  If you mean the LibreOffice wiki page, that is a different website which
  uses its own login, separate from ODFAuthors. You should be able to
 create
  your own login on the wiki: look for the link in the upper right hand
  corner. You can use the same username etc when you create your account
  there, if you wish.
 
  --Jean

 Sorry, the wiki page referred to is actually on the Document
 Foundation wiki, as shown in the URL.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer 4.2 Guide now compiled and published

2014-10-03 Thread Sophie
Hi Tom,
Le 03/10/2014 15:38, Tom Davies a écrit :
 Hi :)
 I am sure it is plenty good enough!  The might be minor problems but i
 don't think it's worth trying to catch them now.
 
 Apparently a VERY early pre-pre-release version of branch 4.4.0 is possible
 to acquire from somewhere super-secret now.  If any more work on the Writer
 Guide takes place it'd be fantastic if it's towards an initial draft for
 the 4.4.x branch.

so secret that you can find the link to it on the website...
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base documentation - Forms

2014-10-03 Thread Peter Goggin

On 03/10/14 23:43, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I tried to fix it to show the right updated status of the 2 chapters 
in question.


I think it's correct?  Peter, is that correct now?
Regards from
Tom :)


On 3 October 2014 11:26, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com 
mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:


On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Friday, October 3, 2014, Peter Goggin
petergog...@bigpond.com mailto:petergog...@bigpond.com wrote:

 On 03/10/14 13:48, Jean Weber wrote:

 Peter,
 You were able to log in to ODFAuthors and upload the file, so your
 user name is clearly valid. I just checked and you appear to
have the
 necessary permissions to change a file's status, so I don't
know why
 you can't. Don't worry about it; it's not stopping you from doing
 anything else. Anyway, there is no reviewed status for files
on the
 ODFAuthors website; we keep track of that on the wiki:



https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks#Status_of_tasks_BH_v4.2

 As for checking out another chapter, just download it from
ODFAuthors.
 Then put your initials in the Checked out column on the wiki
page I
 linked above.

 Yes, I know it's a slightly clunky system. We tried to do a more
 automated one several years ago, using a different platform,
but it
 didn't work out. (Long, boring explanation omitted here.) The
people
 actually doing the work at the time appeared to be happy with the
 system we're using. Of course, it may be time to change the
system, if
 enough people find it's a problem and want to do something
different.

 Lastly, I see there was no folder for Reviewed 4.2, so I have
created
 one and moved your reviewed file from Drafts 4.2 to the new
folder.
 Using different folders seems to help people keep track of
what stage
 a file has reached.

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/base-handbook/reviewed-4.2/

 --Jean

 This is the page where I cannot edit or change the fields in
the table. If
 I try to log on using my ODF login it says I am not a user.

 How can I change the status of files in this page?

 I have downloaded the Queries chapter (4.2 Chapter 6 Queries) 
and will

 work on this
 Regards

 Peter Goggin.


 Which precise page are you attempting to access without success? You
 uploaded a file to ODFAuthors so you definitely have a working
login there.

 If you mean the LibreOffice wiki page, that is a different
website which
 uses its own login, separate from ODFAuthors. You should be able
to create
 your own login on the wiki: look for the link in the upper right
hand
 corner. You can use the same username etc when you create your
account
 there, if you wish.

 --Jean

Sorry, the wiki page referred to is actually on the Document
Foundation wiki, as shown in the URL.

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Thanks, that looks ok to me.

Regards

Peter Goggin

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook Chapter 5 Queries.

2014-10-03 Thread Peter Goggin

While working through the documentation I appear to have found a problem.

The following query works:
SELECT ID, Title, Pub_Year FROM Media
It returns 8 rows.
The following query fails
SELECT ID, Title, Pub_Year FROM Media LIMIT 5
The error complains about 5 being an unexpected token.

I created the query in both design and sql view and get the same result. 
I repeated with several tables  and got the same result and problem.


I found that if I used sort on a field then no matter where I created 
the query (design or sql mode it worked)


The documentation implies that this is a problem from earlier versions 
of the data base, prior to 4.1. and also the limit could only be set in 
direct SQL mode.  I can set the limit in both modes but as stated an 
order field condition is rquired.My version is the one from the ubuntu 
repository and claims to be version libreoffice-base 1:4.2.6.3-0ubuntu1. 
I presume this means it is 4.2.6.3 and therefore should not have the 
LIMIT limitation.


If I need to load a later version of the data base where do I get it from?

If this problem is a bug where do I report it?

Regards

Peter Goggin

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook - Reports

2014-10-03 Thread Peter Goggin
This is listed as Chapter 6 but does not exist in the page for 
downloading for review. Is there any indication when this chapter will 
be ready for review?


Regards

Peter Goggin

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