[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice documentation

2020-07-10 Thread Steve (GMail)

Hi All,

Due to unforeseen circumstances, I will be having a break from 
LibreOffice documentation with immediate effect. Many apologies for any 
inconvenience that this causes the team.


During the last few days I have been reading chapters 0 to 4 (inclusive) 
of the 6.4 Calc Guide and making notes of anything that might need 
updating for the 7.0 version of the document. My notes can be found in a 
file entitled "Comments on Calc Guide chapters 0 to 4.odt" located in 
the Archive folder of the 7.0 Calc Guide structure in Nextcloud. I hope 
these notes are helpful to somebody.


Regards,

Steve
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides' Titles

2020-07-10 Thread Peter Schofield
Hello Drew

The logo on the front cover of the user guides should just simply include the 
text LibreOffice. No need for Community Edition. User guides can be used by 
anybody - private or commercial.\

Regards
Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com



> On 10 Jul 2020, at 15:43, Drew Jensen  wrote:
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> The decision on a tag line for the TDF released binary (i.e. Personal
> Edition or Community Edition or none) is ongoing so changing anything
> presently would be premature.
> 
> Otherwise, I have seen no one from the documentation team weigh in on
> the extensive conversation happening on the other MLs - you are all
> part of the community and you have the option to give your feedback
> there.
> 
> Drew
> 
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:50 AM Martin Srebotnjak  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, that is the decision of the enterprise edition developers, not the
>> community, whether they will have a link in menus for community version
>> documentation or not.
>> 
>> Since they are corporations, these are their business decisions. They can
>> link to community guides, they can append community guides with their
>> premium features descriptions and rebrand and republish, whichever they
>> decide.
>> 
>> Lp, m.
>> 
>> V V pet., 10. jul. 2020 ob 09:54 je oseba Pulkit Krishna <
>> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com> napisala:
>> 
>>> Yes, That is what I want to say - It sounds strange. Also, as I stated in
>>> my previous email,  the help menu in the enterprise edition has a User
>>> Guides option which opens the documentation website. The enterprise edition
>>> do not have separate documentation. It has to be decided whether we write
>>> documentation for only the personal/community edition or both and then name
>>> the guide accordingly. Also, If we go with the second option then we will
>>> have to do something about the Personal/Community edition tag as the
>>> enterprise edition will not contain them.
>>> Pulkit Krishna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 12:22 PM Martin Srebotnjak 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Well, from LO70 there is no product named LibreOffice anymore, just two
 differently named products/modules, like LO Base Community and LO Base
 Professional... Or whatever they will be called... So Base Community Guide?
 It does sound strange.
 Lp, m.
 
 V pet., 10. jul. 2020 08:07 je oseba Pulkit Krishna <
 pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com> napisala:
 
> Also, currently, we do not name our books like Getting Started with
> Base. It is Base Guide. Getting Started with Base is a chapter in the
> Getting Started Guide.
> Pulkit Krishna
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:34 AM Pulkit Krishna <
> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I think it will convey a completely different meaning - "Getting
>> Started with LibreOffice Community". It will sound as if it is a guide to
>> the LibreOffice community. Also, AFAIK the help menu in the enterprise
>> edition has a User Guides option which opens the documentation website. 
>> The
>> enterprise edition do not have separate documentation. It has to be 
>> decided
>> whether we write documentation for only the personal/community edition or
>> both and then name the guide accordingly. Also, If we go with the second
>> option then we will have to do something about the Personal/Community
>> edition tag as the enterprise edition will not contain them.
>> Pulkit Krishna
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:14 AM Martin Srebotnjak 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> on Windows I see that the title of modules is in LO7RC1 also appended
>>> (with
>>> "Personal", just like the suite itself, where "Personal Edition" is
>>> appended), so open document in Writer has "NameOfTheDocument.odt -
>>> LibreOffice Personal Writer) stated in the title bar.
>>> 
>>> Of course, the "Personal" / "Personal Edition" sub-labeling is still an
>>> open issue with the board/community and it seems that the naming
>>> convention
>>> for these "community", unsupported editions is leading to the brand
>>> "Community Edition", but the community documentation team needs to
>>> properly
>>> name the suite/modules that the community guides refer to.
>>> 
>>> So I guess LO7 community Guides (for "Personal"/ "Personal Edition" or
>>> "Community" / "Community Edition" sub-labeling, which ever will be
>>> adopted)
>>> would be therefore renamed to "Getting Started with LibreOffice
>>> Personal/Community Edition", "Getting Started with LibreOffice Writer
>>> Personal/Community", "Getting Started with LibreOffice
>>> Personal/Community
>>> Online" etc.?
>>> 
>>> Lp, m.
>>> 
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides' Titles

2020-07-10 Thread Emiliano Vavassori
Il 10/07/20 15:43, Drew Jensen ha scritto:
> Otherwise, I have seen no one from the documentation team weigh in on
> the extensive conversation happening on the other MLs - you are all
> part of the community and you have the option to give your feedback
> there.

Indeed. Please everyone, if you feel you have to say something in the
regards, we are eager to hear your opinion.

Thanks Drew for mentioning it.

Cheers,
-- 
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syntaxerror...@libreoffice.org


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides' Titles

2020-07-10 Thread Drew Jensen
Howdy,

The decision on a tag line for the TDF released binary (i.e. Personal
Edition or Community Edition or none) is ongoing so changing anything
presently would be premature.

Otherwise, I have seen no one from the documentation team weigh in on
the extensive conversation happening on the other MLs - you are all
part of the community and you have the option to give your feedback
there.

Drew

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:50 AM Martin Srebotnjak  wrote:
>
> Well, that is the decision of the enterprise edition developers, not the
> community, whether they will have a link in menus for community version
> documentation or not.
>
> Since they are corporations, these are their business decisions. They can
> link to community guides, they can append community guides with their
> premium features descriptions and rebrand and republish, whichever they
> decide.
>
> Lp, m.
>
> V V pet., 10. jul. 2020 ob 09:54 je oseba Pulkit Krishna <
> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com> napisala:
>
> > Yes, That is what I want to say - It sounds strange. Also, as I stated in
> > my previous email,  the help menu in the enterprise edition has a User
> > Guides option which opens the documentation website. The enterprise edition
> > do not have separate documentation. It has to be decided whether we write
> > documentation for only the personal/community edition or both and then name
> > the guide accordingly. Also, If we go with the second option then we will
> > have to do something about the Personal/Community edition tag as the
> > enterprise edition will not contain them.
> > Pulkit Krishna
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 12:22 PM Martin Srebotnjak 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Well, from LO70 there is no product named LibreOffice anymore, just two
> >> differently named products/modules, like LO Base Community and LO Base
> >> Professional... Or whatever they will be called... So Base Community Guide?
> >> It does sound strange.
> >> Lp, m.
> >>
> >> V pet., 10. jul. 2020 08:07 je oseba Pulkit Krishna <
> >> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com> napisala:
> >>
> >>> Also, currently, we do not name our books like Getting Started with
> >>> Base. It is Base Guide. Getting Started with Base is a chapter in the
> >>> Getting Started Guide.
> >>> Pulkit Krishna
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:34 AM Pulkit Krishna <
> >>> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  I think it will convey a completely different meaning - "Getting
>  Started with LibreOffice Community". It will sound as if it is a guide to
>  the LibreOffice community. Also, AFAIK the help menu in the enterprise
>  edition has a User Guides option which opens the documentation website. 
>  The
>  enterprise edition do not have separate documentation. It has to be 
>  decided
>  whether we write documentation for only the personal/community edition or
>  both and then name the guide accordingly. Also, If we go with the second
>  option then we will have to do something about the Personal/Community
>  edition tag as the enterprise edition will not contain them.
>  Pulkit Krishna
> 
> 
>  On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:14 AM Martin Srebotnjak 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > on Windows I see that the title of modules is in LO7RC1 also appended
> > (with
> > "Personal", just like the suite itself, where "Personal Edition" is
> > appended), so open document in Writer has "NameOfTheDocument.odt -
> > LibreOffice Personal Writer) stated in the title bar.
> >
> > Of course, the "Personal" / "Personal Edition" sub-labeling is still an
> > open issue with the board/community and it seems that the naming
> > convention
> > for these "community", unsupported editions is leading to the brand
> > "Community Edition", but the community documentation team needs to
> > properly
> > name the suite/modules that the community guides refer to.
> >
> > So I guess LO7 community Guides (for "Personal"/ "Personal Edition" or
> > "Community" / "Community Edition" sub-labeling, which ever will be
> > adopted)
> > would be therefore renamed to "Getting Started with LibreOffice
> > Personal/Community Edition", "Getting Started with LibreOffice Writer
> > Personal/Community", "Getting Started with LibreOffice
> > Personal/Community
> > Online" etc.?
> >
> > Lp, m.
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides' Titles

2020-07-10 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Well, that is the decision of the enterprise edition developers, not the
community, whether they will have a link in menus for community version
documentation or not.

Since they are corporations, these are their business decisions. They can
link to community guides, they can append community guides with their
premium features descriptions and rebrand and republish, whichever they
decide.

Lp, m.

V V pet., 10. jul. 2020 ob 09:54 je oseba Pulkit Krishna <
pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com> napisala:

> Yes, That is what I want to say - It sounds strange. Also, as I stated in
> my previous email,  the help menu in the enterprise edition has a User
> Guides option which opens the documentation website. The enterprise edition
> do not have separate documentation. It has to be decided whether we write
> documentation for only the personal/community edition or both and then name
> the guide accordingly. Also, If we go with the second option then we will
> have to do something about the Personal/Community edition tag as the
> enterprise edition will not contain them.
> Pulkit Krishna
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 12:22 PM Martin Srebotnjak 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, from LO70 there is no product named LibreOffice anymore, just two
>> differently named products/modules, like LO Base Community and LO Base
>> Professional... Or whatever they will be called... So Base Community Guide?
>> It does sound strange.
>> Lp, m.
>>
>> V pet., 10. jul. 2020 08:07 je oseba Pulkit Krishna <
>> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com> napisala:
>>
>>> Also, currently, we do not name our books like Getting Started with
>>> Base. It is Base Guide. Getting Started with Base is a chapter in the
>>> Getting Started Guide.
>>> Pulkit Krishna
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:34 AM Pulkit Krishna <
>>> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I think it will convey a completely different meaning - "Getting
 Started with LibreOffice Community". It will sound as if it is a guide to
 the LibreOffice community. Also, AFAIK the help menu in the enterprise
 edition has a User Guides option which opens the documentation website. The
 enterprise edition do not have separate documentation. It has to be decided
 whether we write documentation for only the personal/community edition or
 both and then name the guide accordingly. Also, If we go with the second
 option then we will have to do something about the Personal/Community
 edition tag as the enterprise edition will not contain them.
 Pulkit Krishna


 On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:14 AM Martin Srebotnjak 
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> on Windows I see that the title of modules is in LO7RC1 also appended
> (with
> "Personal", just like the suite itself, where "Personal Edition" is
> appended), so open document in Writer has "NameOfTheDocument.odt -
> LibreOffice Personal Writer) stated in the title bar.
>
> Of course, the "Personal" / "Personal Edition" sub-labeling is still an
> open issue with the board/community and it seems that the naming
> convention
> for these "community", unsupported editions is leading to the brand
> "Community Edition", but the community documentation team needs to
> properly
> name the suite/modules that the community guides refer to.
>
> So I guess LO7 community Guides (for "Personal"/ "Personal Edition" or
> "Community" / "Community Edition" sub-labeling, which ever will be
> adopted)
> would be therefore renamed to "Getting Started with LibreOffice
> Personal/Community Edition", "Getting Started with LibreOffice Writer
> Personal/Community", "Getting Started with LibreOffice
> Personal/Community
> Online" etc.?
>
> Lp, m.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides' Titles

2020-07-10 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Well, from LO70 there is no product named LibreOffice anymore, just two
differently named products/modules, like LO Base Community and LO Base
Professional... Or whatever they will be called... So Base Community Guide?
It does sound strange.
Lp, m.

V pet., 10. jul. 2020 08:07 je oseba Pulkit Krishna <
pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com> napisala:

> Also, currently, we do not name our books like Getting Started with Base.
> It is Base Guide. Getting Started with Base is a chapter in the Getting
> Started Guide.
> Pulkit Krishna
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:34 AM Pulkit Krishna 
> wrote:
>
>> I think it will convey a completely different meaning - "Getting Started
>> with LibreOffice Community". It will sound as if it is a guide to the
>> LibreOffice community. Also, AFAIK the help menu in the enterprise edition
>> has a User Guides option which opens the documentation website. The
>> enterprise edition do not have separate documentation. It has to be decided
>> whether we write documentation for only the personal/community edition or
>> both and then name the guide accordingly. Also, If we go with the second
>> option then we will have to do something about the Personal/Community
>> edition tag as the enterprise edition will not contain them.
>> Pulkit Krishna
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:14 AM Martin Srebotnjak 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> on Windows I see that the title of modules is in LO7RC1 also appended
>>> (with
>>> "Personal", just like the suite itself, where "Personal Edition" is
>>> appended), so open document in Writer has "NameOfTheDocument.odt -
>>> LibreOffice Personal Writer) stated in the title bar.
>>>
>>> Of course, the "Personal" / "Personal Edition" sub-labeling is still an
>>> open issue with the board/community and it seems that the naming
>>> convention
>>> for these "community", unsupported editions is leading to the brand
>>> "Community Edition", but the community documentation team needs to
>>> properly
>>> name the suite/modules that the community guides refer to.
>>>
>>> So I guess LO7 community Guides (for "Personal"/ "Personal Edition" or
>>> "Community" / "Community Edition" sub-labeling, which ever will be
>>> adopted)
>>> would be therefore renamed to "Getting Started with LibreOffice
>>> Personal/Community Edition", "Getting Started with LibreOffice Writer
>>> Personal/Community", "Getting Started with LibreOffice Personal/Community
>>> Online" etc.?
>>>
>>> Lp, m.
>>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides' Titles

2020-07-10 Thread Pulkit Krishna
Also, currently, we do not name our books like Getting Started with Base.
It is Base Guide. Getting Started with Base is a chapter in the Getting
Started Guide.
Pulkit Krishna


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:34 AM Pulkit Krishna 
wrote:

> I think it will convey a completely different meaning - "Getting Started
> with LibreOffice Community". It will sound as if it is a guide to the
> LibreOffice community. Also, AFAIK the help menu in the enterprise edition
> has a User Guides option which opens the documentation website. The
> enterprise edition do not have separate documentation. It has to be decided
> whether we write documentation for only the personal/community edition or
> both and then name the guide accordingly. Also, If we go with the second
> option then we will have to do something about the Personal/Community
> edition tag as the enterprise edition will not contain them.
> Pulkit Krishna
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:14 AM Martin Srebotnjak 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> on Windows I see that the title of modules is in LO7RC1 also appended
>> (with
>> "Personal", just like the suite itself, where "Personal Edition" is
>> appended), so open document in Writer has "NameOfTheDocument.odt -
>> LibreOffice Personal Writer) stated in the title bar.
>>
>> Of course, the "Personal" / "Personal Edition" sub-labeling is still an
>> open issue with the board/community and it seems that the naming
>> convention
>> for these "community", unsupported editions is leading to the brand
>> "Community Edition", but the community documentation team needs to
>> properly
>> name the suite/modules that the community guides refer to.
>>
>> So I guess LO7 community Guides (for "Personal"/ "Personal Edition" or
>> "Community" / "Community Edition" sub-labeling, which ever will be
>> adopted)
>> would be therefore renamed to "Getting Started with LibreOffice
>> Personal/Community Edition", "Getting Started with LibreOffice Writer
>> Personal/Community", "Getting Started with LibreOffice Personal/Community
>> Online" etc.?
>>
>> Lp, m.
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Guides' Titles

2020-07-10 Thread Pulkit Krishna
I think it will convey a completely different meaning - "Getting Started
with LibreOffice Community". It will sound as if it is a guide to the
LibreOffice community. Also, AFAIK the help menu in the enterprise edition
has a User Guides option which opens the documentation website. The
enterprise edition do not have separate documentation. It has to be decided
whether we write documentation for only the personal/community edition or
both and then name the guide accordingly. Also, If we go with the second
option then we will have to do something about the Personal/Community
edition tag as the enterprise edition will not contain them.
Pulkit Krishna


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:14 AM Martin Srebotnjak  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> on Windows I see that the title of modules is in LO7RC1 also appended (with
> "Personal", just like the suite itself, where "Personal Edition" is
> appended), so open document in Writer has "NameOfTheDocument.odt -
> LibreOffice Personal Writer) stated in the title bar.
>
> Of course, the "Personal" / "Personal Edition" sub-labeling is still an
> open issue with the board/community and it seems that the naming convention
> for these "community", unsupported editions is leading to the brand
> "Community Edition", but the community documentation team needs to properly
> name the suite/modules that the community guides refer to.
>
> So I guess LO7 community Guides (for "Personal"/ "Personal Edition" or
> "Community" / "Community Edition" sub-labeling, which ever will be adopted)
> would be therefore renamed to "Getting Started with LibreOffice
> Personal/Community Edition", "Getting Started with LibreOffice Writer
> Personal/Community", "Getting Started with LibreOffice Personal/Community
> Online" etc.?
>
> Lp, m.
>
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